Government thinks mentally ill shouldn't get disability benefit

It can be put even more simple than you said it.

When most people say they are depressed they mean sad

When most people say they have anxiety they are nervous.

People cheapen many mental health terms by using their title when they are most often experiencing a lesser emotion.


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Any particular evidence for that claim that humans in the ancestral environment didn't get depressed? Seems pretty hard to disprove, and my hunch is that they were similar enough to us that they also got depressed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39097019

The Government is proposing changes to the rules on who can claim Personal Independence Payments (PIP), a benefit paid to disabled people. George Freeman, a Tory MP and head of Theresa May's policy unit, said PIP payments should go to "really disabled people" as opposed to people "taking pills at home, who suffer from anxiety".

So much for parity of esteem, another promise broken by Theresa May.

What do you think? Should PIP be paid to people with mental health problems?

The presumption you made is false. The government do want to give PIP and ESA to people with mental health difficulties but not those with mild to moderate depression and anxiety who are still able to work and waste the money on clothes and nights out.

Happily the High Court took a different view and forced the Government's hand.

Coming from someone with depression, anxiety, bad luck, every time I set my heart on something it ends up in heartbreak and I have suicidal thoughts but do you see me sitting around doing f**k all? No. Even though I have nothing going for me, no friends, no qualifications, no boyfriend, no car, no job, I live with parents, I'm 18 and a complete f**k up and had my heart set on joining the Royal Navy but might never get the chance to join because of my sh*tty mental health, am I gunna sit around and cry like a b*tch and complain my life is horrible? No.

Stop whining and grow a pair of balls, people physically cannot leave the house and you'll cry about being too scared? Do something about it.

Did I say that? No. I clearly stated I've been there, I am there now but sitting around doing nothing does nothing for you. I would rather sleep all day and ever day if I could but in the real world I can't. The government needs to push us all to get out, get jobs, go to college or whatever, giving benefits to people like us encourages us to stay in and become worse.

You saw my thread, I know things aren't easy but you wouldn't catch me complaining all the time

You're pathetic.

I don't receive any, I just get on with it because I have no choice, that's the real world. I can't just sit around doing f**k all.

You're a lazy b*tch that's why, I hate weak people. Also the fact that I have 3 disabled people in my family who physically cannot do anything but because of people like you taking benefits for mental health issues they can't get anything.

Hilarious.

People with conditions that research still doesn’t fully understand the cause or treatment there of these conditions are just lazy and weak.

If you read this back in 20 years you would be embarrassed.

Hilarious.

People with conditions that research still doesn’t fully understand the cause or treatment there of these conditions are just lazy and weak.

If you read this back in 20 years you would be embarrassed.

They are banned now and their posts removed, so it would be a good idea if you edit your posts and remove the quotes too.

It's thought that many people have things like anxiety but don't go and get it diagnosed so alot of people are already not receiving Pip.

They are banned now and their posts removed, so it would be a good idea if you edit your posts and remove the quotes too.

Also they keep coming back. As I'm sure you know.

Yep, but I don't look after this forum (I'm a Universities Section ST) so can't do much about it - if you see them, or someone you think is them, report it ASAP.