Children exposed to 'unacceptably high levels' of alcohol marketing.
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AFS is calling for a ban on alcohol adverts in streets, sports grounds and public transport, alcohol sponsorship of sport, music and cultural events, and restrictions on adverts in newspapers and on social media.
It is also pressing the UK government to restrict TV alcohol advertising between 06:00 and 23:00 and cinema advertising to 18-certificate films.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39110077
Good idea, or overbearing,nannying government?
Not calling for nearly enough imo. Drug pushers are absolute scum, we should go all the way like we've done with tobacco, no advertising, plain packaging, health warnings, the lot.
It is also pressing the UK government to restrict TV alcohol advertising between 06:00 and 23:00 and cinema advertising to 18-certificate films.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39110077
Good idea, or overbearing,nannying government?
Not calling for nearly enough imo. Drug pushers are absolute scum, we should go all the way like we've done with tobacco, no advertising, plain packaging, health warnings, the lot.
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The younger generation is drinking less than ever before. Pubs are closing left right and centre. So what problem is this proposal trying to solve? It seems to me if you deliberately restrict knowledge about alcohol all you'll do is encourage more kids to want to try it, forbidden fruit and all that. Admittedly advertisers are hardly the best sources for education, but that's why we have the ASA to regulate them.
Also, restricting to 18 makes no sense. You'd have to be a very, very sheltered teen to have never had a drink prior to your 18th birthday. Remember also that the minimum age to consume alcohol in this country is 5.
Also, restricting to 18 makes no sense. You'd have to be a very, very sheltered teen to have never had a drink prior to your 18th birthday. Remember also that the minimum age to consume alcohol in this country is 5.
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Alcohol adverts are rarely shown during day-time television nowadays - and the only advertisements for alcohol at football games etc. are simple and aimed at adults who are drinking - children learn about alcohol through education and first hand experience, not through advertisement.
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(Original post by Dez)
It seems to me if you deliberately restrict knowledge about alcohol all you'll do is encourage more kids to want to try it
It seems to me if you deliberately restrict knowledge about alcohol all you'll do is encourage more kids to want to try it
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(Original post by goat_boy)
You believe kids are educated by alcohol advertisements?
You believe kids are educated by alcohol advertisements?
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(Original post by JohnGreek)
Silly idea. The concept of "going for a beer with your mates" is no longer reliant on advertisements, but rather on more ingrained social norms. Teenagers will find out about alcohol either way (through the supermarket, their friends, their parents, and so on), and will consume similar quantities. The most that you're going to change is the brand.
Silly idea. The concept of "going for a beer with your mates" is no longer reliant on advertisements, but rather on more ingrained social norms. Teenagers will find out about alcohol either way (through the supermarket, their friends, their parents, and so on), and will consume similar quantities. The most that you're going to change is the brand.
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(Original post by Dez)
Try reading the whole post before you click reply.
Try reading the whole post before you click reply.
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(Original post by goat_boy)
ermm i did, advertising = knowledge?
ermm i did, advertising = knowledge?
(Original post by Dez)
Admittedly advertisers are hardly the best sources for education, but that's why we have the ASA to regulate them.
Admittedly advertisers are hardly the best sources for education, but that's why we have the ASA to regulate them.
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(Original post by Dez)
See above.
See above.
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This really confuses the hell out of me, why are so many so desperate to defend drug pushing?
Banning advertisement will no doubt harm the alcohol and marketing industry but i'm sure they'll survive, good drugs sell themselves, so what is it that drives this defense of drug pushers?
Banning advertisement will no doubt harm the alcohol and marketing industry but i'm sure they'll survive, good drugs sell themselves, so what is it that drives this defense of drug pushers?

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(Original post by goat_boy)
Yes, so you believe kids are educated by advertisements with the help of the ASA, i reckon it'd be better without the advertisement.
Yes, so you believe kids are educated by advertisements with the help of the ASA, i reckon it'd be better without the advertisement.
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This whole buzzword thing is so old. If you push the alcohol = drug pushing thing, no-one believes it and your whole narrative just gets ignored.
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Makes sense to me. Only the big breweries/distilleries really advertise anyway, smaller craft breweries should be pretty much unaffected.
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(Original post by Dez)
Should we ban Nescafé adverts as well?
Should we ban Nescafé adverts as well?
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(Original post by Captain Haddock)
Makes sense to me. Only the big breweries/distilleries really advertise anyway, smaller craft breweries should be pretty much unaffected.
Makes sense to me. Only the big breweries/distilleries really advertise anyway, smaller craft breweries should be pretty much unaffected.
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(Original post by Trinculo)
This whole buzzword thing is so old. If you push the alcohol = drug pushing thing, no-one believes it and your whole narrative just gets ignored.
This whole buzzword thing is so old. If you push the alcohol = drug pushing thing, no-one believes it and your whole narrative just gets ignored.

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Can you define "unacceptably high"? It seems like you and the report describe it as any
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(Original post by joecphillips)
Can you define "unacceptably high"? It seems like you and the report describe it as any
Can you define "unacceptably high"? It seems like you and the report describe it as any
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(Original post by JohnGreek)
Because you're basically shutting down a multimillion pound advertising industry for no reason whatsoever.
Because you're basically shutting down a multimillion pound advertising industry for no reason whatsoever.
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(Original post by goat_boy)
sure, any, why not?
sure, any, why not?
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