Capital Punishment Referendum: Choose your side Watch

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Capital Punishment Referendum


"Should the United Kingdom reintroduce the capability of judges to consider awarding a penalty of capital punishment where it is just to do so?"





Starting from now, until the 5th March members are asked to post in here choosing which side they wish to represent within this campaign. You do not have to choose a side, but failing to do so will render you ineligible come the vote for the leader and deputy of each campaign.

This list will help campaign leaders know who they can rely on throughout the campaign.

You can either choose:
A. Those in favour - The United Kingdom should reintroduce the capability of judges to consider awarding a penalty of capital punishment where it is just to do so?"

B. Those against - The United Kingdom should not reintroduce the capability of judges to consider awarding a penalty of capital punishment where it is just to do so?"



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B (also first post)
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I will be campaigning against giving this state the power to kill its citizens (Group B); those who read my reasons for proposing this referendum will know exactly why
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B.
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Against capital punishment
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B.

Against capital punishment.
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In favour of the death penalty.
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B-against capital punishment.
However, with the way that this particular question is poised it's hard to argue against it.
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B, against capital punishment
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(Original post by LifeIsFine)
B-against capital punishment.
However, with the way that this particular question is poised it's hard to argue against it.
Blame TheDefiniteArticle, this was not my original question proposal but he proposed this alternative in order for him to abstain on the original bill, which I thought could be crucial at the time so I agreed to it.
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Blame TheDefiniteArticle, this was not my original question proposal but he proposed this alternative in order for him to abstain on the original bill, which I thought could be crucial at the time so I agreed to it.
the point is for the question to be so broad it's essentially meaningless

I wouldn't have accepted a referendum which could have led to meaningful support for the death penalty, how barbaric
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(Original post by Connor27)
Blame TheDefiniteArticle, this was not my original question proposal but he proposed this alternative in order for him to abstain on the original bill, which I thought could be crucial at the time so I agreed to it.
Well I do blame TheDefiniteArticle then, because I feel as if this is a question certain to be rejected by the electoral commission.

I realise my tone may come off as scathing, but I am merely wondering if this question is one that would be accepted in real life.
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(Original post by LifeIsFine)
Well I do blame TheDefiniteArticle then, because I feel as if this is a question certain to be rejected by the electoral commission.

I realise my tone may come off as scathing, but I am merely wondering if this question is one that would be accepted in real life.
The referendum being rejected would have been an entirely acceptable result to me IRL. My motivations were entirely political. I don't support direct democracy at all, it does not increase democratic value, and a political mandate to reintroduce the death penalty is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

Also I'll be arguing against.
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B - Against capital punishment.
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(Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
The referendum being rejected would have been an entirely acceptable result to me IRL. My motivations were entirely political. I don't support direct democracy at all, it does not increase democratic value, and a political mandate to reintroduce the death penalty is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

Also I'll be arguing against.
I do understand what you are trying to say, however for TSR purposes this referendum was always going to pass, if not simply to confirm TSR's view against capital punishment.
The bold is what I'm interested in, as this question, with words such as "capability" and "just" seems to do exactly what you said you were trying not to do.
I will respect the bottom comment on the OP, and not continue with this as we agree regardless.
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Haven't been in these corners of TSR for a while...

Thought I'd weigh in and say against. Although it's a bit silly that this referendum is happening, since we already know what the result is going to be.
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(Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
The referendum being rejected would have been an entirely acceptable result to me IRL. My motivations were entirely political. I don't support direct democracy at all, it does not increase democratic value, and a political mandate to reintroduce the death penalty is exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

Also I'll be arguing against.
They can be good espically if they have limits e.g instead of having a majority vote winner have a "50% of all registered voters are required" that way turnout isn't an issue and a simple majority isn't enough. If 70% turned out you need 5/7 people to win, if turnout is below 50% it'd automatically be rejected. It's done a good job for devolution and works great in America
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Would be nice if we had a speaker capable of getting subs though, especially when there is at least one free sub anyway
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