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Axis and angle of rotation

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{e,f,g} an orthonormal basis in E^3.

For the transition matrix P I have Tr P = 2cos(theta) + cos^2(theta) = 1 + 2cos(theta) so angle of rotation is pi.

If theta = pi/2 then Tr P = 0 = 1 + 2cos(theta) so angle is 2pi/3.

Solving Px = x for the axis seems tedious and I'm not sure about justifying the formula.

And are the above angles correct?

Thank you.
Original post by Determinism
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{e,f,g} an orthonormal basis in E^3.

For the transition matrix P I have Tr P = 2cos(theta) + cos^2(theta) = 1 + 2cos(theta) so angle of rotation is pi.

If theta = pi/2 then Tr P = 0 = 1 + 2cos(theta) so angle is 2pi/3.

Solving Px = x for the axis seems tedious and I'm not sure about justifying the formula.

And are the above angles correct?
Thank you.



'Fraid I know nothing about this, so can't help much. From a bit of Googling.

If this is just matrix multiplication then I agree with your trace of P as
2cos(θ)+cos2(θ)2\cos(\theta) + \cos^2(\theta)

If this now equals 1+2cosϕ1+2\cos\phi (formula for the trace of a 3D rotation matrix) where phi is the angle of rotation, then after rearranging into that form we have:

ϕ=cos1(cosθ12sin2θ)\phi = \cos^{-1}(\cos\theta -\frac{1}{2}\sin^2\theta)

As to how you show it's a rotation matrix, I don't know.

If θ=π2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}

then ϕ=cos1(12)\phi = \cos^{-1}(-\frac{1}{2})

Which gives two possibiities, 2pi/3 and 4pi/3. Don't know the rationale for choosing one over the other.

And that's about my limit. :frown:

Going to need someone with experience of this.
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Original post by ghostwalker
'Fraid I know nothing about this, so can't help much. From a bit of Googling.

If this is just matrix multiplication then I agree with your trace of P as
2cos(θ)+cos2(θ)2\cos(\theta) + \cos^2(\theta)

If this now equals 1+2cosϕ1+2\cos\phi (formula for the trace of a 3D rotation matrix) where phi is the angle of rotation, then after rearranging into that form we have:

ϕ=cos1(cosθ12sin2θ)\phi = \cos^{-1}(\cos\theta -\frac{1}{2}\sin^2\theta)

As to how you show it's a rotation matrix, I don't know.

If θ=π2\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}

then ϕ=cos1(12)\phi = \cos^{-1}(-\frac{1}{2})

Which gives two possibiities, 2pi/3 and 4pi/3. Don't know the rationale for choosing one over the other.

And that's about my limit. :frown:

Going to need someone with experience of this.


No worries.

It seems that the first angle is always taken for some reason in similar questions.

Any idea about justifying the formula? Not sure where root2 comes from.
Original post by Determinism

Any idea about justifying the formula? Not sure where root2 comes from.


From the formula for a 3D rotation using the trace, we have:

cosϕ=cosθ12sin2θ\cos\phi = \cos\theta -\frac{1}{2}\sin^2\theta

Then series expansion as far as first non-constant term in each, yields the desired result.
Reply 4
Original post by ghostwalker
From the formula for a 3D rotation using the trace, we have:

cosϕ=cosθ12sin2θ\cos\phi = \cos\theta -\frac{1}{2}\sin^2\theta

Then series expansion as far as first non-constant term in each, yields the desired result.


Is there a nice way to find the axis of rotation of the composition?

I have an answer but I'm not confident.
Original post by Determinism
Is there a nice way to find the axis of rotation of the composition?

I have an answer but I'm not confident.


No idea on that one.
Reply 6
Original post by ghostwalker
From the formula for a 3D rotation using the trace, we have:

cosϕ=cosθ12sin2θ\cos\phi = \cos\theta -\frac{1}{2}\sin^2\theta

Then series expansion as far as first non-constant term in each, yields the desired result.


What argument are we suppose to give though?
Original post by Determinism
What argument are we suppose to give though?


Your argument is the derivation of the formula from the power series.
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