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I am an international mature student (21 I think counts as mature right?) and have offers from Manchester (Business & Management with a Modern Language Chinese) and Lancaster (Business Studies). I am mainly interested in the graduate prospects of the two unis as I am fine with living both a bit country or in a bigger city.

I am been searching frequently through various websites to try and make an informed decision.I have read on several websites that Manchester students has a much higher employee rate then Lancaster students as Manchester is a very long established university with much more connections and being more known to employers in general.

http://www.highfliers.co.uk/download...GMReport17.pdf (page 31) shows employee rats of UK universities however I am a bit sceptical of this info (Manchester 2nd??). Lancaster is not even on it even though its ranked 7-10th on UK tablets?

Another thing I worry about is the fact that the degree from Manchester is a BoA as it is in the language department. Despite 2/3 of the courses can be business related courses, this might not weigh as heavily as a "real" business degree that I can take a Lancaster?

Thanks for any help!
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I am an international student, 21 of age, and I have to choose between Lancaster (Business Studies) and Manchester (Business & Management with a Modern Language Chinese).

I have read on various websites that Manchester students has a much higher employee rate then Lancaster students as Manchester is a very long established university with much more connections and are more known to employers. But om most tablets Lancaster is ranked way above Manchester?

Another thing I worry about is the fact that the degree from Manchester is a BoA as it is in the language department. Despite 2/3 of the courses can be business related courses, this might not weigh as heavily as a "real" business degree that I can take a Lancaster?

What would give the better prospects?
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Both are good universities and I doubt any employer will treat their graduates any differently.
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Both are good universities and I doubt any employer will treat their graduates any differently.
Thanks for the reply! I except that both have good prospects but I hope to get that small edge by choosing the better. I have asked a few friends of mine who work within business consultancy/investment banking and they have rarely heard of Lancaster though?
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I am an international student, 21 of age, and I have to choose between Lancaster (Business Studies) and Manchester (Business & Management with a Modern Language Chinese).

I have read on various websites that Manchester students has a much higher employee rate then Lancaster students as Manchester is a very long established university with much more connections and are more known to employers. But om most tablets Lancaster is ranked way above Manchester?

Another thing I worry about is the fact that the degree from Manchester is a BoA as it is in the language department. Despite 2/3 of the courses can be business related courses, this might not weigh as heavily as a "real" business degree that I can take a Lancaster?

What would give the better prospects?
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secretswede the degrees sound quite different. Generally employers are more concerned with what you studied, what grades you have and what work experience you have than where you went to uni. Have you looked at jobs that interest you to work out what their entry requirements are? That will give you an idea of what kind of degree you need and if that makes a difference.
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The only real advantage of studying in Manchester is its in a big city and would be easier to make contacts and get work experience in one of the banks, consultancies and accountancy firms based in and around Manchester while Lancaster is pretty small and won't have the same access to these firms.

I graduated from Manchester but not in a business subject.
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secretswede the degrees sound quite different. Generally employers are more concerned with what you studied, what grades you have and what work experience you have than where you went to uni. Have you looked at jobs that interest you to work out what their entry requirements are? That will give you an idea of what kind of degree you need and if that makes a difference.
I would most likely want to go into business consultancy, already done two internships at major consultancy firms and it really interests me. I have also specialised in the Asia pacific (I speak fluent Chinese and a some Korean) which is why I chose the one I did at Manchester. I am worried though that it might be too focused at language? The people who I worked with during my internships have all very different backgrounds and were also divided when I asked them for their opinions.
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The only real advantage of studying in Manchester is its in a big city and would be easier to make contacts and get work experience in one of the banks, consultancies and accountancy firms based in and around Manchester while Lancaster is pretty small and won't have the same access to these firms.

I graduated from Manchester but not in a business subject.
So in terms of employment possibilities you would say they are pretty much on par just that there are more opportunities while taking the degree if I choose Manchester? I was thinking of trying to get a place at a firm during summer vacation and work full time, which should work even though I study at Lancaster I would guess?

Thanks for your info, it is very useful!
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It is :/
Manchester is a popular target for employers because it's big - they can send a few employees out with some banners and flyers and get a lot of bang for their buck.

Both degrees have very similar employment outcomes (https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/subje...eturnTo/Search and https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/subje...eturnTo/Search ) - Lancaster's course is accredited but that might not mean much outside certain countries/sectors. No degree will guarantee you a job - it's always dependent on what exactly you're hoping to do and what opportunities you can take advantage of during your degree.

I'd suggest you look in detail at the modules available and see which matches your interests. The Manchester course seems to involve more contact time (but it's worth asking about that - it could be more time in massive lectures with 100 other people) and the Lancaster course has an even split of coursework and exams while in Manchester the weighting of exams ramps up over the course. The 15% drop out after one year on the Manchester course is also something I'd ask about - it could well be a sign of students realising that the course isn't what they expected.
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Manchester is a popular target for employers because it's big - they can send a few employees out with some banners and flyers and get a lot of bang for their buck.

Both degrees have very similar employment outcomes (https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/subje...eturnTo/Search and https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/subje...eturnTo/Search ) - Lancaster's course is accredited but that might not mean much outside certain countries/sectors. No degree will guarantee you a job - it's always dependent on what exactly you're hoping to do and what opportunities you can take advantage of during your degree.

I'd suggest you look in detail at the modules available and see which matches your interests. The Manchester course seems to involve more contact time (but it's worth asking about that - it could be more time in massive lectures with 100 other people) and the Lancaster course has an even split of coursework and exams while in Manchester the weighting of exams ramps up over the course. The 15% drop out after one year on the Manchester course is also something I'd ask about - it could well be a sign of students realising that the course isn't what they expected.
Thanks that was very useful! The 15% drop out is very interesting, this unistats website seems really good.
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Thanks that was very useful! The 15% drop out is very interesting, this unistats website seems really good.
It's good but as with any data it's best used as something to help you ask the right questions rather than to answer them.
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The divided opinions and fact that everyone had different backgrounds but ended up in the same place suggests that it doesn't really matter what you study. It's your skills and experience that count. The course structure should give you an idea of what the focus is and how the course is portioned.
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It's good but as with any data it's best used as something to help you ask the right questions rather than to answer them.
True true, thanks!
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The divided opinions and fact that everyone had different backgrounds but ended up in the same place suggests that it doesn't really matter what you study. It's your skills and experience that count. The course structure should give you an idea of what the focus is and how the course is portioned.
Ye that is true, I just wanted to know which of the two unis who has more "impact" so to say if you have a degree from it, just the university name so to say.
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I am an international student, 21 of age, and I have to choose between Lancaster (Business Studies) and Manchester (Business & Management with a Modern Language Chinese).

I have read on various websites that Manchester students has a much higher employee rate then Lancaster students as Manchester is a very long established university with much more connections and are more known to employers. But om most tablets Lancaster is ranked way above Manchester?

Another thing I worry about is the fact that the degree from Manchester is a BoA as it is in the language department. Despite 2/3 of the courses can be business related courses, this might not weigh as heavily as a "real" business degree that I can take a Lancaster?

What would give the better prospects?
Do not look too much at ranking and prospects if I were you, when faced with a decision of that kind. Fact 1: Both Universities are top-rated. Fact 2: Where your Manchester degree will take you, your Lancaster will probably do- I have not see where a 1st or a 2.1 Lancaster Degree is held in high esteem over a 1st or a 2.1 from Manchester. Argurable Fact 3. Course content and doing well in Uni should be of more importance than the ranking.
Personally, I feel rankings should not be considered by University categorisation, but by subjects and module content- if ever they should be considered. Consider the module content and the other bits you need from a University Education and make a choice. Hope this helps!
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Do not look too much at ranking and prospects if I were you, when faced with a decision of that kind. Fact 1: Both Universities are top-rated. Fact 2: Where your Manchester degree will take you, your Lancaster will probably do- I have not see where a 1st or a 2.1 Lancaster Degree is held in high esteem over a 1st or a 2.1 from Manchester. Argurable Fact 3. Course content and doing well in Uni should be of more importance than the ranking.
Personally, I feel rankings should not be considered by University categorisation, but by subjects and module content- if ever they should be considered. Consider the module content and the other bits you need from a University Education and make a choice. Hope this helps!
Thank you for your insights!
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