Leeds v KCL for Law? And experience of being a student in London?

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I've been waiting for kings to reject me for months, and been on the verge of firming leeds since I visited two weeks ago which I have an access offer of ABB if i firm, or AAA if I insure. However, last night I actually got an offer from Kings! I am now completely reconsidering and hoping to visit Kings next month as my heart is with Leeds but I feel silly if I don't take my chance in London! Not going to use TSR's opinions to make life decisions but out of curiosity, I was wondering what other people think? London will be so expensive that I cannot comprehend, but does offer a 25k law bursary for welsh students? Much closer to home? But it is also London?!

Also, curious if anyone has any info on how accommodation works in london, privately renting in 2nd and 3rd years, social life etc... Never considered even getting into Kings!
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I've been waiting for kings to reject me for months, and been on the verge of firming leeds since I visited two weeks ago which I have an access offer of ABB if i firm, or AAA if I insure. However, last night I actually got an offer from Kings! I am now completely reconsidering and hoping to visit Kings next month as my heart is with Leeds but I feel silly if I don't take my chance in London! Not going to use TSR's opinions to make life decisions but out of curiosity, I was wondering what other people think? London will be so expensive that I cannot comprehend, but does offer a 25k law bursary for welsh students? Much closer to home? But it is also London?!

Also, curious if anyone has any info on how accommodation works in london, privately renting in 2nd and 3rd years, social life etc... Never considered even getting into Kings!
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/con...ying-in-London

Heya, you may find this set of articles useful about London life.

A few things I would say: look more into an estimate of how much studying in London would cost. You mentioned a 25k bursary so look at accommodation costs (for first year at least) and make estimates on how much everything else would cost

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgradu...ses/index.aspx

There is a (rather poor..) information set on living costs (ignore the PG). I say poor as below is a breakdown for my uni.

http://www.bath.ac.uk/management/cou...uate/bba/fees/

Also, I don't know much about Leeds but as a football fan I know that their football club is massive :lol: then again London has a few big clubs and then again you may not be interested in it, but just a thought.

Also remember that course content etc had to look good, otherwise it'll be a very boring few years.

And also finding out which uni hada better rep for law as I believe Law is one of those courses where what uni you go to matters a bit more than others

It may be worth speaking to alleycat393, they may have either studied at or worked at KCL if I remember correctly.
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Hi,

Congrats on the offers!! I'm a current second year law student at King's, so I'm happy to give my personal opinion of why you should consider King's (obviously I'm bias ).

I won't lie, London is expensive but there are some ways you can save. Joining the NUS can get you discounts on lots of things, including at supermarkets like Co-op. You can avoid buying expensive law textbooks, since the library already has most of them and some of them are online for free. If you feel brave, you could cycle around London rather than pay for public transport, however, I haven't tried this myself out of fear of London traffic. King's also offers bursaries and the Law School offers academic scholarships, which you can either take out as cash or put towards accommodation or tuition. Also I do temp catering work, which pays really well because of the London minimum wage, and is flexible so I can do it when I want. Of course, you have to be sensible, but if you think London is where you want to be, then there are ways of being smart with money in the city.

General things about London:
- Public transport can be a right pain and when there is a tube strike, it is tricky to get around. Luckily lectures are recorded and most professors are pretty understanding (in fact some of my lecturers even turned up late to lectures because of tube delays!).
- There is so much to do and explore! If you want to do this on the cheap, you'll be amazed what you can find just by walking around London (weather-permitting). I don't know what you like to do socially, and whether you're a drinker or non-drinker, but definitely an abundance of pubs and clubs. Yes, a pint in London will definitely be more expensive than Leeds, but Weatherspoons is a good student-friendly choice! Also if you're smart and save money by making your own food, rather than buying lunches and eating out, you'll have a bit more money for fun nights out.
- When you're a student in London, you don't actually feel like a student. You can walk out of uni and just blend into the crowd. It depends if this is something you want as part of your uni experience. Because at a London uni, you want always get that community spirit like at other unis. I mean you won't no everyone by name, since some people just commute into uni, attend class and then head back home. So take that into consideration.
- People often say that London is a really lonely city. I personally disagree because I think loneliness can occur wherever you are and London and uni will provide you with plenty of opportunities to socialise and make friends. Also because uni accommodation and campuses are more spread out, you can visit more of the city and build up a network of friends beyond your flatmates.

Thoughts about KCL:
Academic stuff:
- Amazing faculty, who can actually be quite good at banter and know how to make confusing things seem simple. Professors are always really friendly and chatty, which is nice with such an intense subject as law.
- The Maughan library is beautiful and has a nice courtyard where people sit and eat lunch and chat, especially lovely in the summer. Plus, sooooo many books (I'm a bit of a bookworm so that was a major plus for me)!
- I really love law and how each module is taught and I think the work load is manageable (I promise I am not paid to say that haha). In terms of the reading, we are usually provided with either case extracts, links to articles or summaries of cases in lectures to try and aid us in the readings. Any updates to the law are always mentioned clearly in lectures and if you're lucky, hopefully a change in the law will abolish an old ridiculously confusing part of the law and you won't have to learn it (I remember that happened in Criminal Law with the Jogee case and also in Tort with Patel v Mizra, which has massively clarified the law)!

Fun/Non-academic stuff:
- King's has a really friendly and relaxed atmosphere and there doesn't feel like this huge pressure that I'm sure the Oxbridge students often feel (sorry Oxbridge students if that offends lol). King's has really good support staff in the Law Department as well, who are always happy to answer questions and help. They particularly helped me with my mental health and were very understanding and supportive.
- If you enjoy sport, then I will have to be honest and say that you will have to travel further to find a sports ground for team practices. I don't currently play team sport, but it's what I hear from people who do. So that is something to consider. There is the yearly Varsity with UCL, which is fun to watch and get involved in.
- The campuses are spread out so there are loads of places to study (i.e. library) and you can make a broader bunch of friends, beyond your course and halls.
- Waterfront student bar has a brilliant view. Also King's is a great location within London.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me. I've tried to be honest and King's is far from perfect. Yet I am bias and definitely one of the students who loves King's. Definitely recommend if you're looking for opinions of students to check out some negative opinions just to balance it out. Of course, take all opinions with a pinch of salt, even my amazing summary haha

Best of luck with your decision and law is genuinely a great subject regardless of where you study it!
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https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/con...ying-in-London

Heya, you may find this set of articles useful about London life.

A few things I would say: look more into an estimate of how much studying in London would cost. You mentioned a 25k bursary so look at accommodation costs (for first year at least) and make estimates on how much everything else would cost

http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgradu...ses/index.aspx

There is a (rather poor..) information set on living costs (ignore the PG). I say poor as below is a breakdown for my uni.

http://www.bath.ac.uk/management/cou...uate/bba/fees/

Also, I don't know much about Leeds but as a football fan I know that their football club is massive :lol: then again London has a few big clubs and then again you may not be interested in it, but just a thought.

Also remember that course content etc had to look good, otherwise it'll be a very boring few years.

And also finding out which uni hada better rep for law as I believe Law is one of those courses where what uni you go to matters a bit more than others

It may be worth speaking to alleycat393, they may have either studied at or worked at KCL if I remember correctly.
Thank you for the links!! I'm not a sporty person, but I do love music, so the gigs and festivals at or near Leeds is definitely an attraction for me!
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Hi,

Congrats on the offers!! I'm a current second year law student at King's, so I'm happy to give my personal opinion of why you should consider King's (obviously I'm bias ).

I won't lie, London is expensive but there are some ways you can save. Joining the NUS can get you discounts on lots of things, including at supermarkets like Co-op. You can avoid buying expensive law textbooks, since the library already has most of them and some of them are online for free. If you feel brave, you could cycle around London rather than pay for public transport, however, I haven't tried this myself out of fear of London traffic. King's also offers bursaries and the Law School offers academic scholarships, which you can either take out as cash or put towards accommodation or tuition. Also I do temp catering work, which pays really well because of the London minimum wage, and is flexible so I can do it when I want. Of course, you have to be sensible, but if you think London is where you want to be, then there are ways of being smart with money in the city.

General things about London:
- Public transport can be a right pain and when there is a tube strike, it is tricky to get around. Luckily lectures are recorded and most professors are pretty understanding (in fact some of my lecturers even turned up late to lectures because of tube delays!).
- There is so much to do and explore! If you want to do this on the cheap, you'll be amazed what you can find just by walking around London (weather-permitting). I don't know what you like to do socially, and whether you're a drinker or non-drinker, but definitely an abundance of pubs and clubs. Yes, a pint in London will definitely be more expensive than Leeds, but Weatherspoons is a good student-friendly choice! Also if you're smart and save money by making your own food, rather than buying lunches and eating out, you'll have a bit more money for fun nights out.
- When you're a student in London, you don't actually feel like a student. You can walk out of uni and just blend into the crowd. It depends if this is something you want as part of your uni experience. Because at a London uni, you want always get that community spirit like at other unis. I mean you won't no everyone by name, since some people just commute into uni, attend class and then head back home. So take that into consideration.
- People often say that London is a really lonely city. I personally disagree because I think loneliness can occur wherever you are and London and uni will provide you with plenty of opportunities to socialise and make friends. Also because uni accommodation and campuses are more spread out, you can visit more of the city and build up a network of friends beyond your flatmates.

Thoughts about KCL:
Academic stuff:
- Amazing faculty, who can actually be quite good at banter and know how to make confusing things seem simple. Professors are always really friendly and chatty, which is nice with such an intense subject as law.
- The Maughan library is beautiful and has a nice courtyard where people sit and eat lunch and chat, especially lovely in the summer. Plus, sooooo many books (I'm a bit of a bookworm so that was a major plus for me)!
- I really love law and how each module is taught and I think the work load is manageable (I promise I am not paid to say that haha). In terms of the reading, we are usually provided with either case extracts, links to articles or summaries of cases in lectures to try and aid us in the readings. Any updates to the law are always mentioned clearly in lectures and if you're lucky, hopefully a change in the law will abolish an old ridiculously confusing part of the law and you won't have to learn it (I remember that happened in Criminal Law with the Jogee case and also in Tort with Patel v Mizra, which has massively clarified the law)!

Fun/Non-academic stuff:
- King's has a really friendly and relaxed atmosphere and there doesn't feel like this huge pressure that I'm sure the Oxbridge students often feel (sorry Oxbridge students if that offends lol). King's has really good support staff in the Law Department as well, who are always happy to answer questions and help. They particularly helped me with my mental health and were very understanding and supportive.
- If you enjoy sport, then I will have to be honest and say that you will have to travel further to find a sports ground for team practices. I don't currently play team sport, but it's what I hear from people who do. So that is something to consider. There is the yearly Varsity with UCL, which is fun to watch and get involved in.
- The campuses are spread out so there are loads of places to study (i.e. library) and you can make a broader bunch of friends, beyond your course and halls.
- Waterfront student bar has a brilliant view. Also King's is a great location within London.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me. I've tried to be honest and King's is far from perfect. Yet I am bias and definitely one of the students who loves King's. Definitely recommend if you're looking for opinions of students to check out some negative opinions just to balance it out. Of course, take all opinions with a pinch of salt, even my amazing summary haha

Best of luck with your decision and law is genuinely a great subject regardless of where you study it!
Thank you SO much for this, without asking you a million questions - how easy do you think it is making friends in london compared to other unis? do many people actually go to societies and are they a good way of making friends? I'm really hoping I'll be able to get all the help I can get through law bursaries/scholarships too money wise
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Thank you SO much for this, without asking you a million questions - how easy do you think it is making friends in london compared to other unis? do many people actually go to societies and are they a good way of making friends? I'm really hoping I'll be able to get all the help I can get through law bursaries/scholarships too money wise
If I'm completely, it is probably easier to make friends at non-London unis because the campuses and accommodation tend to be much closer together. In London it is much more spread out. Yet I liked that because it meant I had friends in different places. I think societies, regardless of which uni, are a plenty and a great way to make friends. I've met a lot of good friends from a society Book Club I'm a part of. I also made friends through my course. So I really wouldn't worry about making friends. Just make sure with societies, that you join ones you actually like and think you will have time to go to. Because there is no point paying to join a society and then you never go to the events. Also most unis will have Facebook pages for new freshers and societies and your course, so you can get to know people that way. Best of luck! Glad I could help!
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