Are Trans Women 'Real' Women?

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I say they are.
What do you guys think?
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On one hand. Was pinocchio a real boy?

On another hand. What defines a woman? (please don't both with the "genetically female" crap bcus technically we all began as females)
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Real Woman? No

Woman? Yes - ishhh?
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(Original post by Kieran1996)
On one hand. Was pinocchio a real boy?

On another hand. What defines a woman? (please don't both with the "genetically female" crap bcus technically we all began as females)
i say there's much more to being a woman than whats down there
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Yes
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no
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Absolutely not.
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i say there's much more to being a woman than whats down there
well can't some have surgery to get "traditional" female genitalia?
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Depends on your definition for woman.
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(Original post by Kieran1996)
well can't some have surgery to get "traditional" female genitalia?
Well yeah, but that doesn't change whats inside.
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(Original post by feministy)
Well yeah, but that doesn't change whats inside.
I know, but physically, a woman can be "replicated".

As for inside, it depends on the person really, I don't think you can generalise personality by sex.
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(Original post by Kieran1996)
I know, but physically, a woman can be "replicated".

As for inside, it depends on the person really, I don't think you can generalise personality by sex.
That's not what she meant by inside. All your chromosomes must be XX to be a female.
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That's not what she meant by inside. All your chromosomes must be XX to be a female.
if someone identifies as a woman then imma respect that.
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(Original post by feministy)
if someone identifies as a woman then imma respect that.
Cool, I'm not.
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A trans woman would feel that she is a woman 'trapped' inside of a mans body. I think I would say she is a 'real' women.

If I woke up as a man tomorrow I would still be a woman. Even though the physical animal- that is my body- would be different.

I do not think that the physical body is the person. I think the person is the subjective entity (collective stream of consciousness) housed within the body.

But ofc it depends on the fundamental concept of identity and many people would say the physical animal is also inherently you.
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A trans woman would feel that she is a woman 'trapped' inside of a mans body. I think I would say she is a 'real' women.

If I woke up as a man tomorrow I would still be a woman. Even though the physical animal- that is my body- would be different.

I do not think that the physical body is the person. I think the person is the subjective entity (collective stream of consciousness) housed within the body.

But ofc it depends on the fundamental concept of identity and many people would say the physical animal is also inherently you.
yep x
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They might not be born a woman but the fact that they try to make them selfs real women is enough to make them one in my eyes. The same goes with women wanting to become men.
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(Original post by Kieran1996)
On one hand. Was pinocchio a real boy?

On another hand. What defines a woman? (please don't both with the "genetically female" crap bcus technically we all began as females)
How did we begin as females? Wasn't the sex determined by the sex chromosomes at conception?
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Biologically they're a man, it's as simple as that from a literal standpoint. Whether they choose to act like a woman/man though is their decision and I respect that.
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No.

Although I sympathise with their problem.

Personally, I identify myself as a table lamp.

Does that make me a table lamp?

No, but I do it anyway to brighten up my day.
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