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i know this argument has been arround for years and talked about alot but recently i have been getting confused to a point where im sitting, typing to see what others opinion are.
my friend today and for the past few weeks told me that apprenticeship are far supirior than university, that over their life time they make more money than people in non-russel group uni, which would mean a good 70% of universities. He went on saying about no debt and so and so on.
this particular friend wants to go into accounting through apprenticeship. I on the other hand am starting university (Northumbria university) and am going to do Bsc in mathematics. One of my dreams (career wise) was to be an accountant( it is one of the thing i want to be so dont quote be on this).

So my main question is if apprenticeships are that good, that they overall get paid more, have no debt and so on whats the point of having a degree- im talking jobs which can be done through apprenticeship or by a degree, not including like Donctors and you know.
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(Original post by mnak)
i know this argument has been arround for years and talked about alot but recently i have been getting confused to a point where im sitting, typing to see what others opinion are.
my friend today and for the past few weeks told me that apprenticeship are far supirior than university, that over their life time they make more money than people in non-russel group uni, which would mean a good 70% of universities. He went on saying about no debt and so and so on.
this particular friend wants to go into accounting through apprenticeship. I on the other hand am starting university (Northumbria university) and am going to do Bsc in mathematics. One of my dreams (career wise) was to be an accountant( it is one of the thing i want to be so dont quote be on this).

So my main question is if apprenticeships are that good, that they overall get paid more, have no debt and so on whats the point of having a degree- im talking jobs which can be done through apprenticeship or by a degree, not including like Donctors and you know.
People go on to do degrees because they are told by society that they will only be worth something if they have gone to university. Which is my nearly everyone and their dog goes to the 200+ universities in the UK to study whatever, and then end up spending their days at the Job Centre when they graduate.

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People go on to do degrees because they are told by society that they will only be worth something if they have gone to university. Which is my nearly everyone and their dog goes to the 200+ universities in the UK to study whatever, and then end up spending their days at the Job Centre when they graduate.

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So what your saying that university is worthless compared to apprenticeship
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So what your saying that university is worthless compared to apprenticeship
No I'm saying it's very overrated.
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No I'm saying it's very overrated.
okay.
money wise which one is better, hypothetically working in the same business and the same profession during their entire life time
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For what I'm wanting to do, an apprenticeship would be the best and easiest way to go.
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Why some people go to Uni instead of doing an apprenticeship..

> Some apprenticeships are low pay

> Pressure from school and parents saying that University is the only option to be successful

> Some want to experience uni social life and with an apprenticeship that isn't an option.

> People want something to fall back on

> Some people are academically driven and want to learn more about a particular subject discipline.
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okay.
money wise which one is better, hypothetically working in the same business and the same profession during their entire life time
Well you need to balance out how much will be earny against what your debt is.
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i know this argument has been arround for years and talked about alot but recently i have been getting confused to a point where im sitting, typing to see what others opinion are.
my friend today and for the past few weeks told me that apprenticeship are far supirior than university, that over their life time they make more money than people in non-russel group uni, which would mean a good 70% of universities. He went on saying about no debt and so and so on.
this particular friend wants to go into accounting through apprenticeship. I on the other hand am starting university (Northumbria university) and am going to do Bsc in mathematics. One of my dreams (career wise) was to be an accountant( it is one of the thing i want to be so dont quote be on this).

So my main question is if apprenticeships are that good, that they overall get paid more, have no debt and so on whats the point of having a degree- im talking jobs which can be done through apprenticeship or by a degree, not including like Donctors and you know.
Your friend has good arguments indeed. I personally making an apprenticeship to earn money first instead of spending it. Also, I can make experiences in working with a lot of practise. A reason why I prefer this towards a university. I can save a bit money to study later on when I am a bit more independant - and mature.
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Ok so university is mainly a great life lesson, especially if you're living away from family and need to depend on yourself for the first time.

University is also a springboard for many jobs. Various roles within the ''major leagues'' require Masters, for example, to get to the next level, more prestige and more money.

Don't forget that there are apprenticeships that include degree studies - you avoid accumulating debt and getting ''boxed'' into a specific career path.

Finally, university gives a lot more flexibility. You may not like accountancy once you're in it every day.
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Why some people go to Uni instead of doing an apprenticeship..

> Some apprenticeships are low pay

> Pressure from school and parents saying that University is the only option to be successful

> Some want to experience uni social life and with an apprenticeship that isn't an option.

> People want something to fall back on

> Some people are academically driven and want to learn more about a particular subject discipline.
Yes, you may be on low pay while you are doing the apprenticeship. You are training at the end of the day. But when you have finished the apprenticeship, you will be on a full wage- you wont be on any less than anyone else.
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