Sarin (Syria suffers again)
I know absolutely nothing about politics but what I do know, is isn't really coincidence that sarin was used to expose all the isn't human beings.... just one thing I do know is they didn't cook that up them selfs! I have one thing at the back of my mind and porton downs just that! Please feel free to reply share your views
Unfortuantely, I do have some experience of the Assad regime and its supporters, It's utterly hair raising that after six and a half years of revolution and war, the dictator and instigator of the conflict, Bashar al Assad, is still able to wage indiscrminate mass murder against the ordinary people of Syria.
But your intial suspicious are quite correct. On the day the attack was carried out, in Brussells, the European Union member states were meeting to discuss the reconstruction of Syria. The EU has not yet brought itself to re-establish relations with Assad, but the Americans have strongly indicated that they no longer care about Assad. Their sole focus in ISIS and Assad has interpretred all of this to mean that he can act with utter impunity, he was aiming to humalite the west and reminding his supporters how weak the west are. Russia and Assad regime are now embraking on a disinformation campaign to help their supporters live with themselves.
But your intial suspicious are quite correct. On the day the attack was carried out, in Brussells, the European Union member states were meeting to discuss the reconstruction of Syria. The EU has not yet brought itself to re-establish relations with Assad, but the Americans have strongly indicated that they no longer care about Assad. Their sole focus in ISIS and Assad has interpretred all of this to mean that he can act with utter impunity, he was aiming to humalite the west and reminding his supporters how weak the west are. Russia and Assad regime are now embraking on a disinformation campaign to help their supporters live with themselves.
Actually although it's reported to be a chemical attack no ones really sure what it was or who did it, all the media is doing is speculating that it was Assad using Sarin Gas, however there are some problems with this speculation:
If it was Sarin gas it's unlikely anyone directly hit would have survived, yet there are videos of Rebels handling the bodies without protective gloves and a so called 'dead' victim who opened her eyes
The UN's chief of disarmament hasn't confirmed or even knows whether it was a chemical attack or who it was done by
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
Why? Assad has just a gained significant softer stance from the US (they no longer wanted to depose him) and even wants to work with the US against ISIS, and he's winning the civil war with the rebels being pushed back, why risk this by causing a chemical attack he knows would outrage the west and result in military intervention
Haven't we seen this before = Hussein Saddam had nuclear weapons that could be prepared and launched in 45 minutes
Personally i believe it's western backed and supplied 'rebels' (mostly terrorists created by the CIA) who caused the chemical attack and made it look like Assad had done, so that it would allow the US and the west to go in with military intervention and topple Assad as they've been planning all along
If it was Sarin gas it's unlikely anyone directly hit would have survived, yet there are videos of Rebels handling the bodies without protective gloves and a so called 'dead' victim who opened her eyes
The UN's chief of disarmament hasn't confirmed or even knows whether it was a chemical attack or who it was done by
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
Why? Assad has just a gained significant softer stance from the US (they no longer wanted to depose him) and even wants to work with the US against ISIS, and he's winning the civil war with the rebels being pushed back, why risk this by causing a chemical attack he knows would outrage the west and result in military intervention
Haven't we seen this before = Hussein Saddam had nuclear weapons that could be prepared and launched in 45 minutes
Personally i believe it's western backed and supplied 'rebels' (mostly terrorists created by the CIA) who caused the chemical attack and made it look like Assad had done, so that it would allow the US and the west to go in with military intervention and topple Assad as they've been planning all along
Original post by tomywomy
Actually although it's reported to be a chemical attack no ones really sure what it was or who did it, all the media is doing is speculating that it was Assad using Sarin Gas, however there are some problems with this speculation:
If it was Sarin gas it's unlikely anyone directly hit would have survived, yet there are videos of Rebels handling the bodies without protective gloves and a so called 'dead' victim who opened her eyes
The UN's chief of disarmament hasn't confirmed or even knows whether it was a chemical attack or who it was done by
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
Why? Assad has just a gained significant softer stance from the US (they no longer wanted to depose him) and even wants to work with the US against ISIS, and he's winning the civil war with the rebels being pushed back, why risk this by causing a chemical attack he knows would outrage the west and result in military intervention
Haven't we seen this before = Hussein Saddam had nuclear weapons that could be prepared and launched in 45 minutes
Personally i believe it's western backed and supplied 'rebels' (mostly terrorists created by the CIA) who caused the chemical attack and made it look like Assad had done, so that it would allow the US and the west to go in with military intervention and topple Assad as they've been planning all along
If it was Sarin gas it's unlikely anyone directly hit would have survived, yet there are videos of Rebels handling the bodies without protective gloves and a so called 'dead' victim who opened her eyes
The UN's chief of disarmament hasn't confirmed or even knows whether it was a chemical attack or who it was done by
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
Why? Assad has just a gained significant softer stance from the US (they no longer wanted to depose him) and even wants to work with the US against ISIS, and he's winning the civil war with the rebels being pushed back, why risk this by causing a chemical attack he knows would outrage the west and result in military intervention
Haven't we seen this before = Hussein Saddam had nuclear weapons that could be prepared and launched in 45 minutes
Personally i believe it's western backed and supplied 'rebels' (mostly terrorists created by the CIA) who caused the chemical attack and made it look like Assad had done, so that it would allow the US and the west to go in with military intervention and topple Assad as they've been planning all along
I have to say after the lies told about Iraq, clintons lies about the Gaddafi regime and the lies about the first chemical attack does make me think people need to take a step back from speculation and wait for the facts to be established. It was speculation that took down the Gaddafi regime which turned out to be a disaster and based on lies - it turns out the army didn't use viagra to rape citizens, there were many other false claims. Although, there is verified criticism for saddam, the same can be said for Iraq.
Assad knows the repercussions of using chemical weapons, it was confirmed they destroyed all their stockloads and he really had no reason to use it, in the first reports back in august 2013, it was more convincing since it was a time where he had little authority and was weak, now he's able to exert authority, command an army making gains, have Russian support and as you said the US had become neutral with him.
As for your last part, I don't see why trump would go through the controversy of supporting Assad only to set him up? I doubt the CIA is acting without the presidents authority
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Original post by Mysterious-Zahra
Unfortuantely, I do have some experience of the Assad regime and its supporters, It's utterly hair raising that after six and a half years of revolution and war, the dictator and instigator of the conflict, Bashar al Assad, is still able to wage indiscrminate mass murder against the ordinary people of Syria.
But your intial suspicious are quite correct. On the day the attack was carried out, in Brussells, the European Union member states were meeting to discuss the reconstruction of Syria. The EU has not yet brought itself to re-establish relations with Assad, but the Americans have strongly indicated that they no longer care about Assad. Their sole focus in ISIS and Assad has interpretred all of this to mean that he can act with utter impunity, he was aiming to humalite the west and reminding his supporters how weak the west are. Russia and Assad regime are now embraking on a disinformation campaign to help their supporters live with themselves.
But your intial suspicious are quite correct. On the day the attack was carried out, in Brussells, the European Union member states were meeting to discuss the reconstruction of Syria. The EU has not yet brought itself to re-establish relations with Assad, but the Americans have strongly indicated that they no longer care about Assad. Their sole focus in ISIS and Assad has interpretred all of this to mean that he can act with utter impunity, he was aiming to humalite the west and reminding his supporters how weak the west are. Russia and Assad regime are now embraking on a disinformation campaign to help their supporters live with themselves.
It's a good thing you presented evidence to support your claim that the Syrian government used chemical weapons in Khan Sheikhoun.
Unless an independent body can get in there fairly soon I don't think we will ever find out what really happened. The Russians are saying that planes targeted buildings known to have ISIS fighters in them but it is possible that the buildings also housed chemical weapons.
I really can't see why Assad would use chemical weapons as ISIS are on the verge of defeat and he knows that he needs the backing of the Western countries to stabilise Syria.
I really can't see why Assad would use chemical weapons as ISIS are on the verge of defeat and he knows that he needs the backing of the Western countries to stabilise Syria.
Original post by tomywomy
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
The UN inspector who investigated the first gas attack years ago found that not only did syria not have any chemical weapons, but that the
chemical attack was done by the western backed rebels, so it's unlikely Assad did it this time
Not true at all. The Syrian government did have stockpiles of chemical weapons. We know for a fact that they had them, especially because the Syrian government then declared them and had them destroyed in the aftermath of the Ghouta attack. So even if we didn't know before then, there's no denying it afterwards.
The perpetrator of the Ghouta attack has never been conclusively proven - the whole "the rebels did it" theory hasn't been proven either.
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