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Our country stands at a crossroads. We are heading for what could prove to be the most pressing sociological crisis in our history since the 19th century. Then, we had Prime Ministers like Peel, Gladstone and Disraeli who rose to the occasion and saved our nation from disaster. However, I see few such willing souls this time around. May has potential but I'm not getting the feeling that she has the ruthlessness necessary to solve the big issues. This may change come the next Parliament when she has a larger majority and no longer has her hands tied, but I'm not getting my expectations up too high.

All nations have had great leaders to guide them out of darkness and into the light. Leaders like:

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What we need are not parliaments or referenda, but men of iron will and ruthless determination. What we need is a man of action. Why should we not have a great man to run our affairs?

We should dispense with the regular, legalistic procedure, and appoint one man in charge of a small cabinet of 5-10 men, who will guide the country onto a better path. Parliament should be dissolved and this small group given the responsibility for wielding all of the constitutional power normally delegated to the executive.

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
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Do you think Gladstone Brooks is named after that Gladstone fella from the 19th century?
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Do you think Gladstone Brooks is named after that Gladstone fella from the 19th century?
Presumably.
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Every country is in need of a great leader it's just unfortunate that there isn't one.
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Every country is in need of a great leader it's just unfortunate that there isn't one.
There must be a man with the will, somewhere, somehow, to guide us out of our current predicament. A leader that can build the homes we need, fix our NHS, make the trains run on time and less expensive, save our failing education system, save our youth from moving further to the left, fund our military properly, reform our Parliament, crack down on tax avoidance, restore our manufacturing. A leader that can save Britain.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Priti Patel, Chris Grayling, Peter Bone, John Redwood, Nigel Farage would be excellent leaders.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Priti Patel, Chris Grayling, Peter Bone, John Redwood, Nigel Farage would be excellent leaders.
No, they would be disastrous.
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If I was in power, this country would be drastically different for the better.
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No, they would be disastrous.
Not as dangerous as Jeremy "Communist" Corbyn or Nicola "Satan" Sturgeon
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If I was in power, this country would be drastically different for the better.
No, I should be put in charge. We should return to Saxon times and appoint a Bretwalda (Britain-ruler) who will rule over the entire nation, with regional kings under him to ensure fair treatment for all regions throughout Britain. Every year these regional kings will renew their oaths of loyalty to the Bretwalda. We should abolish the Church of England and return to Saxon paganism.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg, Liam Fox, Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Priti Patel, Chris Grayling, Peter Bone, John Redwood, Nigel Farage would be excellent leaders.
Trolling yeah? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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There must be a man with the will, somewhere, somehow, to guide us out of our current predicament. A leader that can build the homes we need, fix our NHS, make the trains run on time and less expensive, save our failing education system, save our youth from moving further to the left, fund our military properly, reform our Parliament, crack down on tax avoidance, restore our manufacturing. A leader that can save Britain.
Left or right, all this is Nirvana Fallacy. I don't see how a leader changes any of those things.

People on the left often claim that if only people were less selfish and bought into socialism, with the right leader everything would be great.

People on the right often claim that if only people were more hardworking and had different understandings of fairness and equity - with the right leader, everything would be great.

But Nirvana Fallacy is just that - that stating a better world can bring it about.

All the things you have stated are possible - with enormous amounts of money - amounts of money that are only available through taxation and that would go into public spending. No one wants high tax.

These things apparently happen in other countries - no, not in comparable countries they don't. Scandinavian countries have low populations and low population densities.

We have more or less what is possible. From time to time, we get a centre-left government, social policy "improves" slightly, but at a huge financial cost. We then move to a centre-right government and you get better finances, but some unhappy people.

The only thing I would want a very strong leader for would be someone with the charisma and political will to go to war with the militant unions and break them for once and for all. There are two wars in British Politics that need to be fought - one is against the unions, and the other is how long we will continue to pay people to not work. The former, I believe can be fought and won - the latter, I don't know.
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Yeah no, it doesn't. The country and the citizens of the country ought to participate actively in its governance as free and equal.

Either that or the tyranny of Great Men. Most Brits would side with the former paradigm.
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Yeah no, it doesn't. The country and the citizens of the country ought to participate actively in its governance as free and equal.
Eh, no. Certain citizens are better than others and have a right to rule.

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Either that or the tyranny of Great Men. Most Brits would side with the former paradigm.
I prefer the tyranny of Great Men. And if the people refuse, it must be forced on them.
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Eh, no. Certain citizens are better than others and have a right to rule.
No they are not, they don't even know what is good for me. Only I can know that and therefore, only I can rule myself most effectively. They can impose their own views of the good life on me but they don't know what is best for me better than I do.


I prefer the tyranny of Great Men. And if the people refuse, it must be forced on them.
Lol. Okay. Oswald was a fag btw.
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No they are not, they don't even know what is good for me. Only I can know that and therefore, only I can rule myself most effectively. They can impose their own views of the good life on me but they don't know what is best for me better than I do.
Sadly, you are an exception to the rule. Most people do not know what is good for them. It must be forced upon them.

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Lol. Okay. Oswald was a fag btw.
You mean Mosley?
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Sadly, you are an exception to the rule. Most people do not know what is good for them. It must be forced upon them.
Neither do you or any of your imagined dear leaders. To self-govern is not merely some lofty ideal. It has an epistemic foundation. You don't know what's good for other people, you don't even know the first names of most people let know their individual circumstances and specific needs. Nor can you ever know those things.


You mean Mosley?
No I mean Lee Oswald.

I know this is a troll thread. I'm being slightly serious 'cos I'm bored and tired. Bad attempt though.
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With me in charge, I can guarantee a greater Britain by forcing the entire nation into a Georgian reenactment. A great tourism feature and who would want to start a war with a country providing a 24/7 historical entertainment?

Bloody genius.

In all seriousness though, I have nothing constructive to add.
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There must be a man with the will, somewhere, somehow, to guide us out of our current predicament.
Why does it have to be a man? I don't think men have a particularly favourable track record. However in recent history, regardless of whether you agree with their politics, Thatcher, Merkel and Sturgeon are prime examples of excellent leaders.
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