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If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over 
Original post by AishaGirl
If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over
One would hope for the good of humanity we would take out Islam first
Just because WW1 & WW2 were bad, doesn't mean WW3 has to be. 
conventional war has gone and tech has taken over. I am not sure that trident would be used but certainly guided missiles courtesy of the Navy and RAF. The Army would be mopping up and providing comms/intelligence.
I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese. They are a whole new level of dedicated over there. The 'death before dishonour' thing is real. I spent 3 years with the Gurkhas and they are great guys but don't ever annoy them
I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese. They are a whole new level of dedicated over there. The 'death before dishonour' thing is real. I spent 3 years with the Gurkhas and they are great guys but don't ever annoy them
Original post by Luke7456
North Korea has been a big problem on the world ... for a long time.
Yeah, I forgot just how much North Korea impacts on my day to day life. I can't do any of the things I'd normally do.
Oh no, wait, it's not remotely a problem to the world and, once you leave South Korea it barely qualifies as a nuisance.
Original post by SG118
yeh if a serious war was on,both would try to unleash their nukes, if a new war started it would either last a long time and be just tactical invasions or end quickly with he deaths of millions
Takes me back to my childhood.
http://www.atomica.co.uk/main.htm
Original post by AishaGirl
If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over
In your dreams
Original post by Richard0328
I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese. They are a whole new level of dedicated over there. The 'death before dishonour' thing is real. I spent 3 years with the Gurkhas and they are great guys but don't ever annoy them
I wouldn't underestimate the Chinese. They are a whole new level of dedicated over there. The 'death before dishonour' thing is real. I spent 3 years with the Gurkhas and they are great guys but don't ever annoy them
You have to admit that, looking back at the latter half of the 20th Century at least, European & American forces have struggled against Asian populations - the Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and to a lesser extent the Japanese as well. I do think it's due to a mixture of reasons though - probably as much political as strategic whereas tactically Allied forces were generally superior.
China's main offensive power at the moment seems to come through cyber warfare capabilities with its nuclear weapons as deterrent. If their conventional anti-ship missiles like the DF-21 are as effective as made out to be then US Navy carrier battle groups could struggle to make an impact.
However, apart from this, the PRC has little ability to project power - it's navy would probably be sunk within days by US submarines while its air force lacks the range to really hit US bases.
I doubt that the US & China will trade anything other than economic blows & I highly doubt that, even if some kind of conflict did break out, that US & PLA troops would actually come into contact as neither side will attempt to invade the other.
Original post by chemistryguy123
Agree with this. Feel like there could just be a bit of a stand off between everyone with people threatening but nothing actually happening in the end.
However America using their MOAB for the first time may actually have been a test in disguise as they're preparing all their most powerful arms because they think a huge way may be imminent.
Either way whatever happens it looks like it will mainly become airstrikes and dropping bombs rather than lots of troops on the ground as that seems to be how warfare is going these days. No one really willing to commit bodies into a war
However America using their MOAB for the first time may actually have been a test in disguise as they're preparing all their most powerful arms because they think a huge way may be imminent.
Either way whatever happens it looks like it will mainly become airstrikes and dropping bombs rather than lots of troops on the ground as that seems to be how warfare is going these days. No one really willing to commit bodies into a war
Nah. The Syrian strikes, MOAB and commiting a carrier group to the peninsular are all about ratcheting up the diplomatic pressure.
China is deploying some 150,000 troops along the NK border and Mr Kim must be shifting his pants 'cause he's playing with the big boys.
I would not be surprised if the end game is regime change with an internal coup by the NK military brass and an agreement between the US and China to demilitarise NK.
The US are easily capable of stopping a short and medium range ballistic missile attack with Aegis and THAAD now deployed in South Korea.
The biggest headache is Kim getting backed into a corner and then lashing out at Seoul with his significant artillery. That is the nightmare nobody wants.
Kim will not get anywhere near the carrier group and he will know full well that nuclear subs with Polaris will be less than two minutes flight time away from anywhere on the peninsular.
It's a high stakes game of poker and Trump is playing to win.
Original post by AishaGirl
If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over
If Islam takes over all of us non-muslims might as well kill ourselves because if shariah law is implemented we are all done for.
Original post by AishaGirl
If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over
That would be the equivalent of winning because the others didn't show up to race, a fairly worthless victory
Original post by uberteknik
Nah. The Syrian strikes, MOAB and commiting a carrier group to the peninsular are all about ratcheting up the diplomatic pressure.
China is deploying some 150,000 troops along the NK border and Mr Kim must be shifting his pants 'cause he's playing with the big boys.
I would not be surprised if the end game is regime change with an internal coup by the NK military brass and an agreement between the US and China to demilitarise NK.
The US are easily capable of stopping a short and medium range ballistic missile attack with Aegis and THAAD now deployed in South Korea.
The biggest headache is Kim getting backed into a corner and then lashing out at Seoul with his significant artillery. That is the nightmare nobody wants.
Kim will not get anywhere near the carrier group and he will know full well that nuclear subs with Polaris will be less than two minutes flight time away from anywhere on the peninsular.
It's a high stakes game of poker and Trump is playing to win.
China is deploying some 150,000 troops along the NK border and Mr Kim must be shifting his pants 'cause he's playing with the big boys.
I would not be surprised if the end game is regime change with an internal coup by the NK military brass and an agreement between the US and China to demilitarise NK.
The US are easily capable of stopping a short and medium range ballistic missile attack with Aegis and THAAD now deployed in South Korea.
The biggest headache is Kim getting backed into a corner and then lashing out at Seoul with his significant artillery. That is the nightmare nobody wants.
Kim will not get anywhere near the carrier group and he will know full well that nuclear subs with Polaris will be less than two minutes flight time away from anywhere on the peninsular.
It's a high stakes game of poker and Trump is playing to win.
I dont see the US and China coming to an agreement on NK, just in the same way I don't see the US and Russia coming to an agreement on Syria.
It's quite difficult to comment on anything to do with what NK think and what their military feels since they're so secretive about it and no one truly knows what they're doing and what their plan is so I don't think we can really say anything about a coup by the NK military. It does seem quite unlikely.
The easiest thing for Kim would be to fire on South Korea but as you said Trump has that covered with warships in that area so I wouldn't have thought Kim would bother doing that which leaves him more likely to just go straight for mainland America which would be incredibly foolish but he does have backing from some very big and capable nations.
It seems difficult because there are two different 'wars' going on or potentially going on. The US are involved in Syria and the middle east and therefore wouldn't want to get involved in NK at the same time because that would leave them more vulnerable but they wouldn't want to leave the middle east just to get involved with what NK might do.
This is all very much if anything ever happens though. However with Putin, Assad, Kim and Trump at the helm of these powerful and militarily capable nations anything is possible
Original post by AishaGirl
If the western world including Russia and China destroy themselves, the middle east and Islam will rise to take over
@SinsNotTragedies she has some nasty dreams I've gotta say .
Original post by Drewski
Yeah, I forgot just how much North Korea impacts on my day to day life. I can't do any of the things I'd normally do.
Oh no, wait, it's not remotely a problem to the world and, once you leave South Korea it barely qualifies as a nuisance.
Oh no, wait, it's not remotely a problem to the world and, once you leave South Korea it barely qualifies as a nuisance.
That is just like the poker players at the casino whom tell me playing K7 suited under the gun is a good play because of that time they won that big pot. Your been results orientated rather then looking at the long term expected value.
The fact is that North Korea has been trying for some time to get a nuclear bomb, and their dictator is a bit gungho crazy. Should they finally succeed there is a reasonable chance they will use it. Which means that for the rest of the world North Korea continuing to exist in the state it does is a direct threat long term.
Further what about the large numbers of their people been forced to live in concentration camps that should just not be tolerable in our time.
Generally speaking, this part of the world is relatively safe in comparison to Asia-Pacific, Middle East, Central Asia and when it comes to Russia they wouldn't 'waste' their arsenal on Eastern Europe either
WWIII has been about to break out since 2/9/45
Europe needs to stay united and form a European military now more than ever in its existence.
We should try to remain neutral for as long as we can and we should also consider the idea of a Federal Europe.
We should remain allies with the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and we might have to face enemies like Turkey and Russia.
Russia is the great challenge because our military is not as strong.
If we are divided we are doomed.
We should try to remain neutral for as long as we can and we should also consider the idea of a Federal Europe.
We should remain allies with the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand and we might have to face enemies like Turkey and Russia.
Russia is the great challenge because our military is not as strong.
If we are divided we are doomed.
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