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What do you think of male feminists?

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Original post by queenofswords
No I go for intelligent and confident people.


Ah, there's your problem.
You're looking for an intelligent feminist.
Original post by feministy
Women don't dress for men.


That's a load of disingenuous bull. Men dress for attractiveness. Women dress for attractiveness. Attracting the opposite sex is an integral and key part of life (or more accurately the continuation of it). It's not something to be ashamed of, mind you.
Original post by _gcx

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The notion that there must be 50/50 representation in anything is not an egalitarianistic belief. It is still reminiscent of the concept of the "separate spheres" of males and females.

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That is called egalitarianism.

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"Some"




Sorry - I might have explained it poorly. Not just women have to change their views on equal rights, but men. If some men still have these sexist views, then total progress can't be made! Fathers may reinforce unequal values and make daughters potentially be less empowered, and the workplace, no matter legislation, may still feel like an unequal environment. What I was trying to say, if a minority of people are actually feminists then there can't really be change. I do not agree with the 'must be 50/50 representation in anything' thing, however generally things come out better when there is fair representation. I'm a 'should' not 'must' person.

Also to what are the second two bullet points referring to?
Original post by MagnifiWilly
That's a load of disingenuous bull. Men dress for attractiveness. Women dress for attractiveness. Attracting the opposite sex is an integral and key part of life (or more accurately the continuation of it). It's not something to be ashamed of, mind you.


Just because it is an integral and key part of life does not mean it it always carried out. Are two-year-olds carrying out reproduction? And not everyone wishes to attract the opposite sex - gays may wish to attract the same gender (shocking, I know).

On a personal note, I have never once dressed with the intention to 'attract a mate'. I once made the mistake of assuming women wore make-up to look 'sexy', however I soon found out that they did it because in this day and age being without make-up is exposing. We only feel good in our bodies with it on, because of how superficial we are treated. Not for some kinda validation from some man.
Original post by queenofswords
I would not date a man that is not a feminist. How can any woman possibly date a man that does not believe in equal treatment of men and women?


I agree with this.
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Original post by SinsNotTragedies
I agree with this.


Nobody cares what you agree with you national tragedy. :rofl2:
Original post by jhkn
I care what you agree with sins


thanks :wink:
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thanks :wink:


Don't wink at me you pleb vagina.
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I get weak when you wink at me because I'm a pleb vagina.


awwwwww :wink:
Neutered puppies
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awwwwww :wink:


Ahhh you're doing that thing again were you edit my comments again like a naughty school girl.
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I support equal gender rights, but it isn't being feminist, it's just being a decent human being.

But as long as people like:
Jessica Valenti - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/04/world-wage-gap-pay-women-more-men-less
Kate Smurthwaite - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MTF79Xq27k
Valerie Solanas - SCUM Manifesto

Can call themselves feminists
No one normal would call themselves feminists, as these people are clearly not supporters of equal rights and never will be.

There is a reason why only 7% of Britons consider themselves feminist: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/only-7-per-cent-of-britons-consider-themselves-feminists/
Original post by MagnifiWilly
That's a load of disingenuous bull. Men dress for attractiveness. Women dress for attractiveness. Attracting the opposite sex is an integral and key part of life (or more accurately the continuation of it). It's not something to be ashamed of, mind you.

Lol, I certainly don't.
I think they really want to get girls
Original post by Athena64
Sorry - I might have explained it poorly. Not just women have to change their views on equal rights, but men. If some men still have these sexist views, then total progress can't be made! Fathers may reinforce unequal values and make daughters potentially be less empowered, and the workplace, no matter legislation, may still feel like an unequal environment. What I was trying to say, if a minority of people are actually feminists then there can't really be change. I do not agree with the 'must be 50/50 representation in anything' thing, however generally things come out better when there is fair representation. I'm a 'should' not 'must' person.

Also to what are the second two bullet points referring to?


Of course, but equally gender parity cannot be achieved until females cease holding sexist views, too, which is unlikely to happen considering the views applied by the new authoritarian left/SJWs/CTRL-left/whatever you want to call them. Indeed, the law is not a magic wand, and cannot magically change societal attitudes.

How do you define "fair" representation?


Since the word feminism is now so negatively perceived (mostly through a conflation between radical feminists who believe women should be given more rights than men), I'll go with equal rights for all...


This is called egalitarianism.


Also men have some issues too! The whole 'men can't cry' thing and being expected to have a higher income than their female partner is in a heterosexual relationship can be rough too. Also things like child custody tends to go to the wife/mother. Which is kinda sexist on both parts.


"Some" seems to be undermining the volume of issues that males face.
men can absolutely be feminists - luckily, most guys I've met have been pretty on-board with feminist ideology, and in fact quite a few of them have asked me this exact question because they were worried that they weren't MEANT to be vocal about feminist issues due to the fact they were male. Plus, a lot of feminism actually dresses male issues as well - why it's not considered 'manly' to cry and/or be sensitive because women are the emotional ones, which just forces men to internalise their feelings and is probably a big factor in the high rates of male suicide. feminism isn't some exclusive club, and anyone who tries to convince people it is isn't a feminist.
Original post by MagnifiWilly
Ah, there's your problem.
You're looking for an intelligent feminist.


Feminism is a prerequisite for intelligent people. Intelligent people are inherently in favor of gender equality. :wink:
If men want to be feminists then it's fine by me. I want gender equality so I'm not sure if that makes me a bit of a feminist? Don't know to be honest.
I want to be like hell yes but I'm scared I feel as though there's something else on the agenda for them a lot of the time. Rather than simply concern for the issues and women. Hmm it'll depend on the guy as an individual of course.
Original post by Little Popcorns
I want to be like hell yes but I'm scared I feel as though there's something else on the agenda for them a lot of the time. Rather than simply concern for the issues and women. Hmm it'll depend on the guy as an individual of course.


It's a way of getting women into socialism :colone:

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