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MP Constituency Motion



This House believes that it would be fun to designate each MP a 'constituency' to represent, so that this should be done in a way that is optional does not inconvenience MPs who are less interested. MPs who are not interested do not need to take part by selecting a constituency.

This House believes this should be implemented on a trial basis at the next MHoC general election, as follows:

After the results of the general election are declared by the Speaker, the Speaker will then inform party leaders they have 2 days to compile a list of their MPs (the Speaker should note that parties may submit their party lists on any day during the election before this day, but if the number of MPs on the submitted list is fewer than the number of seats won by the party, the party leader will need to submit another list with enough MPs to fill all of the party’s seats before the deadline for submitting party lists).

Two days after the results of the GE have been announced, the Speaker shall no longer accept party lists. The Speaker will create a constituency claiming thread on this day, and MPs have four days to select their choice of constituency that they would like to represent from this list of MHoC Constituencies: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing. These constituencies will be allocated on a first-come-first-served basis. Claims made by those not on a party list are not recognised.

During this period, MPs may trade constituencies if two MPs mutually agree to making such a swap. Each MP may only swap his constituency once. Both MPs shall inform the Speaker once they have agreed to a trade, and the Speaker shall be responsible for recording all constituency swaps.

When the deadline for constituency selection has been reached, if there are any MPs who do not have a seat yet, the Speaker will allocate the remaining constituencies to the remaining MPs, based on the constituencies that fit in with the MPs’ ideologies most (i.e. a constituency in the South East shall be given to a right-wing MP, if possible, and a constituency in the North East shall be given to a left-wing MP, if possible. Other factors that the Speaker could take into account include establishment/anti-establishment, unionist/nationalist, europhile/eurosceptic, etc.)

On the day Parliament opens, MPs may no longer swap constituencies from this day forward, until the end of the term. The Speaker will publish a final list of MPs and the constituencies that they represent.
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Two days post-election is not enough time to select MPs.
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PetrosAC - please can you chnage my vote to an abstain?
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Two days post-election is not enough time to select MPs.
This^^^


Also, what's going on with the formatting? No field? No proposer?
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This^^^


Also, what's going on with the formatting? No field? No proposer?
Another thing to add, when the **** was this in the main chamber, it was an amendment!
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Two days post-election is not enough time to select MPs.
(Original post by RayApparently)
This^^^


Also, what's going on with the formatting? No field? No proposer?
If only you had voiced that concern during the actual debate, it would have been changed.
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If only you had voiced that concern during the actual debate, it would have been changed.
Could you show us the thread? ( there isn't one?)
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Could you show us the thread? ( there isn't one?)
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=4658410
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(Original post by RayApparently)
This^^^
There's a week between the results and parliament opening, two days is way too short.

I want to see constituencies but they need to be implemented properly and I'm sceptical this is the right way. On that note PetrosAC, please change my Abstention to a No.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
There's a week between the results and parliament opening, two days is way too short.

I want to see constituencies but they need to be implemented properly and I'm sceptical this is the right way. On that note PetrosAC, please change my Abstention to a No.
Then why did you not say anything about changing it to six days during the debate? Only saying it now makes it seem like you don't actually want constituencies to be implemented, and are only making an excuse to vote against it after it has been sent to division.
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If only you had voiced that concern during the actual debate, it would have been changed.
Alas.
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Then why did you not say anything about changing it to six days during the debate? Only saying it now makes it seem like you don't actually want constituencies to be implemented, and are only making an excuse to vote against it after it has been sent to division.
Probably because I didn't pay much attention to it, having been drawn to concerns about party lists (which in fairness I'm more comfortable with now).

To say that I don't want them implemented is clearly not true given I drafted a motion and drew two maps to bring them in. What is true is that I don't want them at any cost, and I tried to build consensus rather than trying to ram them through.
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Sounds like we have...disorganized labor

Nay, this adds a grand total of zilch.
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PetrosAC Why do you keep ignoring the standard formatting?
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
There's a week between the results and parliament opening, two days is way too short.

I want to see constituencies but they need to be implemented properly and I'm sceptical this is the right way. On that note PetrosAC, please change my Abstention to a No.
(Original post by Quamquam123)
PetrosAC - please can you chnage my vote to an abstain?
One vote has been changed from a No to an Abstain, and One vote has been changed from an Abstain to a No
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One vote has been changed from a No to an Abstain, and One vote has been changed from an Abstain to a No
That was easy. :lol:
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I am voting aye because I want to see the MHoC in the awkward position of rejecting an amendment to do something but approving a motion to do the same thing.
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It's strange this was even allowed since motions serve to debate statements and practically the same statement was debated not long ago and its implementation rejected.
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PetrosAC change my vote to abstain please
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Mr Speaker,

Would it be possible to change the motion so that there are six days for parties to submit MP lists once the results of the GE have been announced, i.e. can the motion be changed to this:

MP Constituency Motion


This House believes that it would be fun to designate each MP a 'constituency' to represent, so that this should be done in a way that is optional does not inconvenience MPs who are less interested. MPs who are not interested do not need to take part by selecting a constituency.

This House believes this should be implemented on a trial basis at the next MHoC general election, as follows:

After the results of the general election are declared by the Speaker, the Speaker will then inform party leaders they have 6 days to compile a list of their MPs (the Speaker should note that parties may submit their party lists on any day during the election before this day, but if the number of MPs on the submitted list is fewer than the number of seats won by the party, the party leader will need to submit another list with enough MPs to fill all of the party’s seats before the deadline for submitting party lists).

Six days after the results of the GE have been announced, the Speaker shall no longer accept party lists. The Speaker will create a constituency claiming thread on this day, and MPs have four days to select their choice of constituency that they would like to represent from this list of MHoC Constituencies: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing. These constituencies will be allocated on a first-come-first-served basis. Claims made by those not on a party list are not recognised.

During this period, MPs who have already chosen a constituency but wish to change their constituency may change to a constituency that has not already been taken or trade constituencies if two MPs mutually agree to making such a swap. Each MP may only swap or change his constituency once. Both MPs shall inform the Speaker once they have agreed to a trade, and the Speaker shall be responsible for recording all constituency swaps and changes.

When the deadline for constituency selection has been reached, if there are any MPs who do not have a seat yet, the Speaker will allocate the remaining constituencies to the remaining MPs, based on the constituencies that fit in with the MPs’ ideologies most (i.e. a constituency in the South East shall be given to a right-wing MP, if possible, and a constituency in the North East shall be given to a left-wing MP, if possible. Other factors that the Speaker could take into account include establishment/anti-establishment, unionist/nationalist, europhile/eurosceptic, etc.)

When the above process is complete, the Speaker will publish a final list of MPs and the constituencies that they represent, and MPs may no longer swap constituencies from this day forward, until the end of the term.
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