Latin OCR GCSE 2017 J281 thread (and set text/8 marker help) Watch

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This is firstly just wondering everyone's thoughts on the upcoming papers, any predictions, advice, questions etc.
Also, if anyone happens to have (given by a teacher or anything) an analysis of the set texts as in like comments on the language or annotations or notes for the style questions (mainly 10 markers), it would be really appreciated if you could post/send it, happy to send the notes I have on grammar if anyone needs those?
And finally, we were never really taught how to answer 8 markers, as I'm aware they're different to style questions as its more about the content but not quite sure how to approach them - does anyone have any advice/notes/model answers??

Thanks a lot and good luck!
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Hi,
I'm pretty sure I'm doing J081 (Short Course), as I'm only taking exams in Language 1: Mythology and Domestic Life, and Verse Literature. I'm hoping this thread is still relevant to me! Do the set texts for Verse Literature change every year? I've looked at past papers and very few of them contain extracts from the poems we're studying (Catullus and Ovid), and are always interspersed with poems from different poets we haven't studied. Our teacher told us we'd be answering questions on our set texts so I'm a little worried about that part, not having anything to say on them etc.
Thanks!
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Set texts change every year
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Set texts change every year
Cool, so I don't need to be worried 😁 Thanks.
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https://zigzageducation.co.uk/synops...Verse?pod=5797

This is an excellent resource for verse and prose - annotations, analysis, translations into English etc. It's what the students in my Latin class (all 6 of us!) are using at the moment.
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https://zigzageducation.co.uk/synops...Verse?pod=5797

This is an excellent resource for verse and prose - annotations, analysis, translations into English etc. It's what the students in my Latin class (all 6 of us!) are using at the moment.
Looks great but would you say it's worth all the money??
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Looks great but would you say it's worth all the money??
Hmm - at this point in the course maybe not, given that the exams are so near. I hadn't actually realised how expensive they were (my school paid for the A pack for verse literature, not us). Oops!

http://www.ancient-literature.com is a good site I found for biographical information about Roman poets - useful for putting what they say in their writing into context perhaps. http://akcotton.co.uk/Files/5thformg...ionbooklet.pdf has some very useful tables to fill in for longer questions and also some example questions, although I don't know if the poem section of the GCSE is exactly what you're looking for. They're both freely available so maybe that would help?
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(Original post by fish_and_chips)
Hmm - at this point in the course maybe not, given that the exams are so near. I hadn't actually realised how expensive they were (my school paid for the A pack for verse literature, not us). Oops!

http://www.ancient-literature.com is a good site I found for biographical information about Roman poets - useful for putting what they say in their writing into context perhaps. http://akcotton.co.uk/Files/5thformg...ionbooklet.pdf has some very useful tables to fill in for longer questions and also some example questions, although I don't know if the poem section of the GCSE is exactly what you're looking for. They're both freely available so maybe that would help?
Thanks a lot i'll have a look!
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(Original post by DavoGCSE)
This is firstly just wondering everyone's thoughts on the upcoming papers, any predictions, advice, questions etc.
Also, if anyone happens to have (given by a teacher or anything) an analysis of the set texts as in like comments on the language or annotations or notes for the style questions (mainly 10 markers), it would be really appreciated if you could post/send it, happy to send the notes I have on grammar if anyone needs those?
And finally, we were never really taught how to answer 8 markers, as I'm aware they're different to style questions as its more about the content but not quite sure how to approach them - does anyone have any advice/notes/model answers??

Thanks a lot and good luck!
For the 8 mark I also wasn't really taught but I got 7/8 for it on my mock a few weeks ago so I might be able to help! Basically (if you are doing Messalina/ummidia - prose lit) you have to relate the character to the question so if you were asked a question like "What does the character of Ummidia show about Roman noble women?" (sorry if this is a crappy question I just made it up) you might say that Upper class women had a lot of free time and then talk about how she watches pantomime artists in her spare time. You don't need to directly quote the text though. You would need about 3 points which are developed. However I don't have much experience with 8 markers so I don't know if they questions are purely going to be on characters or on something else from the stories. (But considering both Messalina And Ummidia have the characters in their names I would assume the question will be about the women)
Also, Would you be able to send your notes on grammar!? Language is my weak point haha
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I have attached recap notes for Messalina 2 and 3
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My ummidia notes
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For the 8 mark I also wasn't really taught but I got 7/8 for it on my mock a few weeks ago so I might be able to help! Basically (if you are doing Messalina/ummidia - prose lit) you have to relate the character to the question so if you were asked a question like "What does the character of Ummidia show about Roman noble women?" (sorry if this is a crappy question I just made it up) you might say that Upper class women had a lot of free time and then talk about how she watches pantomime artists in her spare time. You don't need to directly quote the text though. You would need about 3 points which are developed. However I don't have much experience with 8 markers so I don't know if they questions are purely going to be on characters or on something else from the stories. (But considering both Messalina And Ummidia have the characters in their names I would assume the question will be about the women)
Also, Would you be able to send your notes on grammar!? Language is my weak point haha
Thanks a lot! And my notes are awful but I recently found these (I think from the mock or end of year last year) and they've been helpful for me, hope they help
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My ummidia notes
Thanks a lot that's really helpful!
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Everyone seems to be doing something completely different to what I'm doing :O

For Literature Unit 3 I'm Doing:
• Caesar, Bravery and Strategy in Battle
• Caesar, at the heart of the Belgae
• Tacitus, Annals 14 Inspiration for the fight
• Cicero, Letters to Atticus: Marital Conflict

For Literatre Unit 4 I'm doing:
• Virgil, Aeneid Book 1

Anyone else doing these or am I just alone?? 😭

I have no idea how to answer the 8 markers so I'm panicking for those. For language however, I think I'm alright (I THINK)

Not looking forward for the exam at all on Wednesday :,(
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any predictions for 8-marker or any of the 1 mark/2 mark questions they ask on mythology and things like that? (Messalina and Ummidia)
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My teacher says for 8 markers just spam as many ideas you can onto the paper as there is a massive time constraint.Just try to use as much of your knowledge of the text as you possible can.
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Everyone seems to be doing something completely different to what I'm doing :O

For Literature Unit 3 I'm Doing:
• Caesar, Bravery and Strategy in Battle
• Caesar, at the heart of the Belgae
• Tacitus, Annals 14 Inspiration for the fight
• Cicero, Letters to Atticus: Marital Conflict

For Literatre Unit 4 I'm doing:
• Virgil, Aeneid Book 1

Anyone else doing these or am I just alone?? 😭

I have no idea how to answer the 8 markers so I'm panicking for those. For language however, I think I'm alright (I THINK)

Not looking forward for the exam at all on Wednesday :,(
Im doing these as well.
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Good luck everyone for today! Hope you all do well 🤞🤞
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Thanks a lot! And my notes are awful but I recently found these (I think from the mock or end of year last year) and they've been helpful for me, hope they help
Thank you! They look really good
also good luck everyone today!!
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How did everyone feel about today's paper?!

I was quite surprised with Section A, went a lot more smoother than I had anticipated, put me in a really good mood for the rest of the day! I'm just happy that I can bin all my endless piles of Caesar Tacitus and Cicero notes haha! Looking forward for Friday's exam now, should be okay!

Anyways how'd it go for all you guys??
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