Jeremy Corbyn Free University Watch

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Have you seen the news! Jeremy Corbyn wants to give us Free University. Problem is where is he planning on getting the £10Billion from?

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...y-tuition-fees
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I want free uni.
Vote for Corbyn.
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So ermmm... Are taxpayers willing to provide money for courses like gender studies?
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How do you think the SLC is funded? Not having for fork out £9250 of public money per year per student would free a fair bit up.
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How do you think the SLC is funded? Not having for fork out £9250 of public money per year per student would free a fair bit up.
Wouldn't the government then be giving the university money in some other way though? Would this just get rid of the repayment which helps recover some of the money given away as a tuition fee loan?
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Wouldn't the government then be giving the university money in some other way though? Would this just get rid of the repayment which helps recover some of the money given away as a tuition fee loan?
That's how it would work in theory, but since fees were tripled to £9000 we are now in a situation where a huge proportion of students will never be able to pay off their loans within 30 years. Why not just fund higher education properly in the first place rather than cause billions of pounds worth of haemorrhaging in the future?

I don't think tuition fees should be completely abolished, just reduced back down to around the £3000 a year mark (even £6000 would be... eh acceptable). Interest on loans is scary ****.
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(Original post by markusface)
That's how it would work in theory, but since fees were tripled to £9000 we are now in a situation where a huge proportion of students will never be able to pay off their loans within 30 years. Why not just fund higher education properly in the first place rather than cause billions of pounds worth of haemorrhaging in the future?

I don't think tuition fees should be completely abolished, just reduced back down to around the £3000 a year mark (even £6000 would be... eh acceptable). Interest on loans is scary ****.
Cut the interest to a fixed extra that's put on say like £9000 course will require a £9500 payback (I don't know how much interest you can rack up really over say 10 days but that number is an example of the fixed system)?
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I object to paying my own tuition fees then paying for everyone else's in my tax.
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I object to paying my own tuition fees then paying for everyone else's in my tax.
Well said, all of these "yay, free stuff!" sheeple are just frankly depressing.

The left and their basic solutions to complex problems, combined with gross economic illiteracy seems to strike a chord with our moronic generation, just the term "free university" is laughable, there's a thing called taxes people!

Also, the left tend to call Conservatives out for selfishnes; surely voting for Corbyn for policies like this is far more selfish? Rather than contributing (£9k per year is actually only about half the cost) to the cost of our degree, they would rather burden other people in the country with our problem, utterly ignorant.
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(Original post by SubElevenG)
I object to paying my own tuition fees then paying for everyone else's in my tax.
But that is what happens now. About 50p in the pound lent to students will be written off.

I think loans are a good thing. Just finishing off my PGCE 20+ years after I attended uni for free. Uni now is so much better and accountable to students than it was 20 years ago and standards are so much higher now that students rightfully expect more for their money.
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I want free uni.
Vote for Corbyn.
Me too. Read in the Daily Mail that he's going to take us back to the 1970s.

Heard you could quit your job in the morning and be in a new one in the afternoon back then. Can't wait.

Also 5p freddos.


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But that is what happens now. About 50p in the pound lent to students will be written off.

I think loans are a good thing. Just finishing off my PGCE 20+ years after I attended uni for free. Uni now is so much better and accountable to students than it was 20 years ago and standards are so much higher now that students rightfully expect more for their money.
Well I expect free printing for £9250 a year. And not having to buy all my own teaching resources.

So we don't get what we expect.
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I will be voting for the Conservatives at the election, however, I do agree that the current Tuition Fee system is unsustainable, given how so many will be unable to pay off their loans. Why not reduce the £12.6 Billion Foreign Aid budget instead, and subsidise tuition fees.

I do believe that there should be a fee, but maybe around £4,000 - £6,000 would be more sustainable.

The 0.7% foreign aid target is a disgrace which encourages careless spending. it should be scrapped and replaced by a needs basis.
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Me too. Read in the Daily Mail that he's going to take us back to the 1970s.

Heard you could quit your job in the morning and be in a new one in the afternoon back then. Can't wait.

Also 5p freddos.




Well I expect free printing for £9250 a year. And not having to buy all my own teaching resources.

So we don't get what we expect.
Yeaaah man, the 70s were brilliant, that top class three day week man, the winter of discontent was top, dicks out for socialism!!

Oh wait, no it wasn't, we were pumping CO2 into the environment from the coal mines, we were slowly degrading into the laughing stock of Europe with our archaic economy and out-of-date socialistic post war consensus.

It was only our accession to the EEC and the rise of Mrs Thatcher that saved Britain and took us to where we are today!
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Well I expect free printing for £9250 a year. And not having to buy all my own teaching resources.

So we don't get what we expect.
Perhaps not. Interesting that you have in your influence, some of the greatest minds on the planet and you are only concerned about the cost of printing.

I remember being young once! 😂
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Yeaaah man, the 70s were brilliant, that top class three day week man, the winter of discontent was top, dicks out for socialism!!

Oh wait, no it wasn't, we were pumping CO2 into the environment from the coal mines, we were slowly degrading into the laughing stock of Europe with our archaic economy and out-of-date socialistic post war consensus.

It was only our accession to the EEC and the rise of Mrs Thatcher that saved Britain and took us to where we are today!
Well labour are fairly 'anti-****-up-the-environment' so I doubt that part of the 70s will come back. Looking forward to less child poverty, a working NHS, employment and all of that good stuff though.
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(Original post by ChickenMadness)
Me too. Read in the Daily Mail that he's going to take us back to the 1970s.

Heard you could quit your job in the morning and be in a new one in the afternoon back then. Can't wait.

Also 5p freddos.




Well I expect free printing for £9250 a year. And not having to buy all my own teaching resources.

So we don't get what we expect.
1970s
The internet wasn't invented back then and I wasn't born,
what happens to me then?
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Well labour are fairly 'anti-****-up-the-environment' so I doubt that part of the 70s will come back. Looking forward to less child poverty, a working NHS, employment and all of that good stuff though.
Facts don't care about your feelings.

The employment rate now is higher than at any point than in the last 40 years, the lazy and freckless trash that complains about having their benefits cut don't deserve said benefits in the first place it's the dependency culture, they need to get out and ****ing work or starve!

The NHS is ****, lack of funding isn't the problem, the fact that it's a nationalised service is the problem, we need a privatised healthcare service to improve quality of care for everyone.

In almost all cases, poverty is caused by incompetentcy, profligacy and a lack of interest in school, why should the hard working successful people be taxed up to the eyeballs these people, it's NOT right!

To paraphrase Churchill; Socialism is nothing more than the philosophy of envy.
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I like this policy but I still won't be voting Labour.
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I also don't think the state should be funding people to take three years out of working life.
People should decide whether or not they want to go to uni with the cost as it stands. Otherwise some people would just go to have fun at the taxpayer's expense.
Although some reduced cost should be introduced to courses with shortages like nursing or whatever else crops up in the future.
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(Original post by littleswany)
Have you seen the news! Jeremy Corbyn wants to give us Free University. Problem is where is he planning on getting the £10Billion from?

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...y-tuition-fees
This proposal will presumably pay for itself. Our universities will churn our students equipped with skills that will go on to join the workforce and boost our country's economy, without massive debt hanging like a millstone around their necks and hindering their productivity.
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