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Reply 20
Angus-Higgins
The emotions are a most difficult concept (I find). (Hence my asking of many questions regarding them [upon this website {"The Student Room"}]).

How can one understand them properly? (This may be my next question [comment not in this thread {lest it be infiltrated with those who care not to discuss the originally intended subject}]).

Angus Higgins

Yes, I personally find it very difficult to even comprehend what it would be like to have a basically emotionless life. The notion of not showing any affection is the most puzzling to me, I suppose because it is something that comes very naturally to me.
Reply 21
Watching that sort of program makes me want to really buckle down and do some work.
Reply 22
I dont understand how people can get so clever tbh. I got an A in my Igcse (and was really happy) , and now I dont even understand any of the polynomials we have just done in C1 :redface:
Reply 23
Angus-Higgins
My point (in the post [quoted in the post {quoted in this post}]) was that emotions exist, but are somewhat of an indecipherable code (in many cases). Why was it incorrect for the person to state that his parents offered the shelter (etc.) necessary for him? How can one describe what it is like to win something? (After all, it is merely nice).

Angus Higgins

I guess I find it 'unacceptble' for someone to say that because the reason they provide him with food and shelter isn't logical, or at least is shouldn't be to him. If he doesn't connect emotionally with people (which he didn't appear to) then why wouldn't he find it unusual for his parents to care for him? Surely he must be at least aware of the love they feel for him?
I don't think winning something is, as you put it, 'merely nice'. I can only speak for myself, but anything that I have competed and won in has held emotional value which the word 'nice' itself doesn't explain. What is nice? Is it pleasent, happy, satisfying etc? Nice isn't really a feeling, it's just a poor use of language, it doesn't really describe anything properly and considering how much detail Jos went into through the rest of the programme it only made it even more painfully obvious how he 'couldn't' express himself emotionally.
Reply 24
Zen90
I dont understand how people can get so clever tbh. I got an A in my Igcse (and was really happy) , and now I dont even understand any of the polynomials we have just done in C1 :redface:

The thing is though that even one of the boys who got a Silver award, Daniel, admitted that it wasn't really important and that he was looking forward to go to university to do "real maths". Whilst it is interesting, it's not the be all and end all.
It was quite sad when one of the Chinese competitors, the one who got a perfect score, talked about everything they had missed out on due to practising for the competition.
this programme was actually quite good though quite depressing, i used to think i was vaguely clever but compared to kids like this i barely have a brain
We know the majority had some form of autism.
Their brains are just 'wired' so differently, they just 'see it', mind blowing isn't it..
Makes me wonder what my point is in studying maths.
Yeah but some were a bit normal . It would be so cool to be them for a couple of ears get into a lush uni and then go back to normal.
Reply 28
LonelyDogsBite
Makes me wonder what my point is in studying maths.

Pre-Alevel: because you have to
A-level: because you might need to to do a certain course in uni/work in a certain field
Post-Alevel: for the love of it
m:)ckel
Pre-Alevel: because you have to
A-level: because you might need to to do a certain course in uni/work in a certain field
Post-Alevel: for the love of it


Only a select few have a 'beautiful' math mind.
I am critical of myself and if I can't be the best at something I have put much effort into, my mood swings to extremes. Flip side, some people are content with mediocre.
Reply 30
theworm
Joss was the one that denied emotion. I felt sorry for Saul having put in all that work only to come out with a bronze again. Does anyone what the questions are like are they an extension from FP3 type questions or totally different?


:eek:

They are on a completely different level
Reply 31
LonelyDogsBite
Only a select few have a 'beautiful' math mind.
I am critical of myself and if I can't be the best at something I have put much effort into, my mood swings to extremes. Flip side, some people are content with mediocre.

Can't help you with that.
I do not consider being fantastically good at something (or even 'just' good) - but not the best - as mediocrity. But really, if you do enjoy something, then you should be content with the pleasure you get out of it alone.

imo.
Reply 32
LonelyDogsBite
We know the majority had some form of autism.
Their brains are just 'wired' so differently, they just 'see it', mind blowing isn't it..
Makes me wonder what my point is in studying maths.


there is only one reason why you should study maths and only one reason i had ever needed to study maths and that is because its fun.

not rubbish school maths but the kind that means you have to think these kind of exams that cater to those who feel the normal school syllabus doesn't even let you understand the scope that mathematics entails. i think this is why most people dislike maths although maybe those good at maths like it because its something that you can't just learn but you need to understand. The best mathematicians think in mathematics; the world is an infinite set with members that contain an infinite set of possibilities, probabilities, permutations, computations and all of this knowledge can be shown through the wonder of mathematics.

... makes me wonder why i do anything else?:rolleyes:
Those that want to know more about the maths can look here
http://www.imo-register.org.uk/2006-report.html

As I understand, the progression is Senior Maths Challenge (need Gold), then BMO1, BMO2, IMO final 20 and IMO squad.

It was interesting that when in the Trinity camp some of the students already knew they were going back there for University. I'm guessing they already had their maths A levels and had received unconditionals. Not much point asking those folk to bother with STEP!
from the Independent...

Jos Gibbons, 18, from Birmingham: 'I don't think the exams are too easy'

Jos Gibbons studied at King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys in Birmingham, and is soon off to study physics at Keble College, Oxford. He has 11 A levels; 10 at A grade, which are in chemistry, economics, English literature, further maths, maths additional, general studies, maths, philosophy, physics and history and one B in Biology (but he's appealing).

He said: "To be honest I didn't work that hard at all - no more than most other people do. I just spread it out over about six years.

"I started sitting A-levels in year eight, along with a few other people in my year. I could have finished it all by year 12, but I think the school wanted me to have something to do in the final year

" Oxford had already given me an unconditional offer to go to a college of my choice anyway. I did get a B in Biology, but I'm getting that paper remarked.

"It is something to be proud of, I suppose, but I'm just not getting that emotional about it. I wasn't very surprised, and nor were my parents: I think they knew it would happen. I'm more looking forward to going to Oxford, because I've decided to do a four-year degree in physics at Keble. Then I'm going to do a PhD in quantum physics.

"After that, I've got no idea about what I'm going to do as a career. Preferably something original, but I'll have to do something well-paid too, my mum says I should.

"I've heard that the word 'research' is typically used to describe jobs that don't pay well, so I won't be doing that.

"I don't think A-levels are too easy. The A-star grade they're bringing in is a waste of time though, because soon everyone will be getting one and then we'll just be back to where we started.

"The only way to make grades fall is to not teach people so well, and nobody's going to start doing that."
Reply 35
m:)ckel
Yeah, I think that's right. He seemed like the top guy for the team. His name is Geoff Smith - he's a lecturer at Bath University.

:eek: I never knew he was going to be on the telly! I'm gutted I missed this show... I'm going to have to look out for a repeat. :smile:

Even better, I've just found out it's showing at Bath Film Festival and there'll be a Q&A with the director and Geoff himself. :biggrin:
Reply 36
TheOlympiac
there is only one reason why you should study maths and only one reason i had ever needed to study maths and that is because its fun.

not rubbish school maths but the kind that means you have to think these kind of exams that cater to those who feel the normal school syllabus doesn't even let you understand the scope that mathematics entails. i think this is why most people dislike maths although maybe those good at maths like it because its something that you can't just learn but you need to understand. The best mathematicians think in mathematics; the world is an infinite set with members that contain an infinite set of possibilities, probabilities, permutations, computations and all of this knowledge can be shown through the wonder of mathematics.

... makes me wonder why i do anything else?:rolleyes:


So; which one were you?
I'm watching "beautiful young vaginas" - some Russian guy lent me it. It's pretty good, but the story's lacking substance. It seems, so far, to be more hardcore child pornography :confused:
Are the initial batched of mathematicians all selected based on their JMC results? In fact, isn't that the whole point of the JMC? I seem to remember recognizing a logo during the TV show that I remember seeing on one of the JMC papers.
Reply 39
Meh, terrible portrayal of mathematicians I thought.

Made us all look like utter nerds. They cut out all my interviews because I refused to embarrass myself in front of the camera or give them juicy soundbytes (and they were fishing by the Oundle Camp for things we could say about Jos!)

Plus all the half normal and perfect sociable members were either portrayed as not as clever and therefore dropped by the wayside or just not covered. And I was appalled during the debate over female mathematicians, our deputy leader, Ceri, who has a PhD in maths was not even mentioned. She was only introduced 5 minutes before the end present Daniel's medal as if she's some sort of PA for the team when she's a capable mathematician who helped mark and review our solutions as well as being integral to our training process.

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