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Theresa May wants the government to control the internet

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7744176.html




    Theresa May to create new internet that would be controlled and regulated by the government.


    "Theresa May is planning to introduce huge regulations on the way the internet works, allowing the government to decide what is said online.

    Particular focus has been drawn to the end of the manifesto, which makes clear that the Tories want to introduce huge changes to the way the internet works.

    "Some people say that it is not for government to regulate when it comes to technology and the internet," it states. "We disagree." Senior Tories confirmed to BuzzFeed News that the phrasing indicates that the government intends to introduce huge restrictions on what people can post, share and publish online.

    The plans will allow Britain to become "the global leader in the regulation of the use of personal data and the internet", the manifesto claims. It comes just soon after the Investigatory Powers Act came into law.

    That legislation allowed the government to force internet companies to keep records on their customers' browsing histories, as well as giving ministers the power to break apps like WhatsApp so that messages can be read.

    The manifesto makes reference to those increased powers, saying that the government will work even harder to ensure there is no "safe space for terrorists to be able to communicate online". That is apparently a reference in part to its work to encourage technology companies to build backdoors into their encrypted messaging services – which gives the government the ability to read terrorists' messages, but also weakens the security of everyone else's messages, technology companies have warned.

    The government now appears to be launching a similarly radical change in the way that social networks and internet companies work. While much of the internet is currently controlled by private businesses like Google and Facebook, Theresa May intends to allow government to decide what is and isn't published, the manifesto suggests.

    The new rules would include laws that make it harder than ever to access pornographic and other websites. The government will be able to place restrictions on seeing adult content and any exceptions would have to be justified to ministers, the manifesto suggests.

    The manifesto even suggests that the government might stop search engines like Google from directing people to pornographic websites. "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm," the Conservatives write."
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    They already have the tools to investigate criminal activity (terrorism etc.). They are just using fear to justify further surveillance. Very dangerous.
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    (Original post by Castro Saint)
    They already have the tools to investigate criminal activity (terrorism etc.). They are just using fear to justify further surveillance. Very dangerous.
    The reality is too much information leads to an inefficient approach whereby the services are swamped by meaningless data and can't act to prevent actual threats.

    This just stinks of Orwells 1984
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    They keep shooting themselves.
    > Legalising Fox Hunting
    > Controlling the Internet
    > Legalising ivory trade
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    Honestly how they even got into power in the first place is baffling, who wants to be run by people who are stuck in the 1950's? Outdated views, beliefs and for some reason have to force these beliefs and views on everyone hell David Cameroon even said we are a "Christian" country which hasn't been the case in decades.
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    Are we going to have to start a hashtag for people to realise the mistake they're making?

    #dicksoutforunregulatedinternet
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    (Original post by The_Mediocre_One)
    The reality is too much information leads to an inefficient approach whereby the services are swamped by meaningless data and can't act to prevent actual threats.

    This just stinks of Orwells 1984
    I don't even think it's about security really. The government just wants to track what we do for their own self interests.

    It's like knowing your husband isn't cheating on you but having him followed by a private investigator just to see what he gets up to for the sake of knowing.
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    This is exactly why I will not vote Conservative. This kind of bull**** social conservatism belongs in the 1950s, and these authoritarian attitudes do not belong in any democracy, end of. The part about regulating the news is particularly scary. Not to mention the huge data security issues with some of the proposals.
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    (Original post by EternalLight)
    I don't even think it's about security really. The government just wants to track what we do for their own self interests.

    It's like knowing your husband isn't cheating on you but having him followed by a private investigator just to see what he gets up to for the sake of knowing.
    Is that a thing ? :lolwut:
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    (Original post by The_Mediocre_One)
    Is that a thing ? :lolwut:
    It's called being a nosy *****, a bit like Mrs May. I'm sure there are many partners that snoop and keep tabs on their other halves for the simple reason of wanting to know what they do.
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    (Original post by EternalLight)
    It's called being a nosy *****, a bit like Mrs May. I'm sure there are many partners that snoop and keep tabs on their other halves for the simple reason of wanting to know what they do.
    Those must be the healthiest of all relationships lol
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    Usually loud mouthed Tories here suddenly so silent... chicken shits like their current and most past party leaders.
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    (Original post by The_Mediocre_One)
    Those must be the healthiest of all relationships lol
    The government will try to use terrorism as the pretext for this internet policy and the worrying thing is the British people are so terrified due to media scare-mongering that they might just believe it.

    There is always an agenda behind propaganda. Whether it's to make people believe something is true that isn't or to help pass bills.
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    I am sorry (that's a lie, I'm really not) but if it took you this long to realise that the UK government and in particular Theresa May is in favour of a mass surveilence state where the internet is policed by strict controls, where you can and will be prosecuted for expressing opinions they don't like YOU ARE A ****ING NAIEVE FOOL.

    Western democracies, especially the US and UK have been sucking at the tit of mass surveilence for a decade, what we have seen in the last year or so is a movement towards legalizing and legitimizing the illegal activity of security services.
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    I think more surveillance would be a good idea. We need to keep the country safe and ensure that people aren't accessing inappropriate material. We have laws in real life yet laws are rarely implemented on the internet despite it becoming such a huge part of our lives. More surveillance is a good way to prevent further problems. At the end of the day, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
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    We accept regulation of the radio, the TV, the press... Why is another form of media any different?

    Clearly, there's a balance to be struck between one extreme and the other, and while I haven't read the proposals I would imagine them to be too far to one side.

    But the internet is an incredible tool for crime, terrorism, etc, it's only right that something should be done to try and limit that. It's the price of being part of a society.
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    I like how pornography is up there with hate speech.

    As usual the most annoying people out of all of this are hypocritical right wingers who spent all the new labour years crying Orwell when Tony Blair wanted to introduce id cards to help fight terrorism but are now going be supporters of this just because it is a Tory government implementing it.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    We accept regulation of the radio, the TV, the press... Why is another form of media any different?
    I don't know if that is a good analogy. It is more like regulating private conversations and communications between people as individuals, as apposed to regulating how a business operated and what/how it can sell to consumers. TV radio and the press are normally business transactions where as a lot of the the internet is more akin to getting a radio mast and just sending out your communication out into the ether and talking to other people like you do in the street, or even just talking to someone face to face. If there was a way of monitoring every single human interaction I'm not sure it would necessarily be a good idea, it seems much more intrusive than just regulating business output.

    I think a better analogy is one where the governments gives every person a recording device that records every single form of communication they engage with other people, stores it in a database, just so the government can use that data store to do whatever it is it wants to do. Whether that be to find criminal activity or make sure no one is getting the wrong kind of information.
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    Shocker. Who would have expected that from such a great libertarian as May?

    I've stopped bothering with the Tories ever since they chose to support a mediocre, statist, basic ***** as their leader. Some conservatives like the current Chancellor, I've sympathy for even if they decided to drop their principles and what they know is a stupid policy (namely, leaving the single market) in pursuit of power.

    So I am not reflexively anti-Tory, it's the party I've been the closest to ideologically and historically speaking. But that party exists no more. I hope more free-market conservatives realise this and turn their efforts toward re-claiming the Liberal party from the social democrats.
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    (Original post by HotStocks)
    More surveillance is a good way to prevent further problems. At the end of the day, if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
    Proposals like this have huge potential to be abused and used for political blackmail or to target opponents of the government if some nutjob comes to power in future. And don't you dare try to say this isn't possible.

    Let's say some government agency is carrying out some corrupt of shady practices. Someone sees this and wants to report it. Now that whistleblower can be found and neutralised before they're able to become the slightest inconvenience to the government. Or his internet history could be selectively leaked to the press to smear them - "nothing to see here, just another pervert to be ignored".

    Everyone has a reasonable expectation of privacy and the government should not be carrying out large scale mass surveillance on its own citizens. This "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" argument is stupid and needs to die.
 
 
 
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