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Anyone have any good knowledge about these sort of courses?

I´m currently stuck between Arts University Bournemouth and Middlesex.

I´ve also got offers from Norwich Uni of The Arts and Derby, but I´m not too keen on them.
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Anyone have any good knowledge about these sort of courses?

I´m currently stuck between Arts University Bournemouth and Middlesex.

I´ve also got offers from Norwich Uni of The Arts and Derby, but I´m not too keen on them.
What are you looking for from a course/university?

What are your thoughts on the strengths/weaknesses of each choice?
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Anyone have any good knowledge about these sort of courses?

I´m currently stuck between Arts University Bournemouth and Middlesex.

I´ve also got offers from Norwich Uni of The Arts and Derby, but I´m not too keen on them.
Hello solar222222,

Congratulations on all your offers, it is great!
I have just graduated from Middlesex University and I loved my time here!
There are loads of things to get involved in, from societies, to sports to jobs on campus
I did Journalism and Media which is in the media department as film is!
There are amazing facilities! The TV studio is really state-of-art, it is huge with amazing cameras. We have also a free of charge loan store!
Ruben is currently studying film here at Middlesex, why don't you have a look at his thread? https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=4401722

We are also running an Open day in the 10th of June, come, meet us and have a look at the University you can book your place here: https://mdx.hobsons.co.uk/Portal/EI/...1b4c0d6389d511

Let me know if you have any questions

Have a great day
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What are you looking for from a course/university?

What are your thoughts on the strengths/weaknesses of each choice?
I'm looking for a course that will help me develop skills so I can be more employable, so say learning how to edit on Premiere better, or use an Arri Alexa camera. Also, making connections is also important for me.

Bournemouth is apparently the best in the country (although I've heard some not so good things about the course from current students), while Middlesex is number 4 on The Guardian and is in London, which is a good and a bad thing (really good for jobs, but really expensive)
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I'm looking for a course that will help me develop skills so I can be more employable, so say learning how to edit on Premiere better, or use an Arri Alexa camera. Also, making connections is also important for me.

Bournemouth is apparently the best in the country (although I've heard some not so good things about the course from current students), while Middlesex is number 4 on The Guardian and is in London, which is a good and a bad thing (really good for jobs, but really expensive)
Of the two only AUB is accreditect by Creative Skillset http://creativeskillset.org/search/3...=Undergraduate

That doesn't mean that the AUB course is better but it does mean it has met the requirements of industry involvement in the course design and delivery for accreditation. Middlesex have other courses accredited (their TV production courses) but not Film. It might be worth asking them directly about that and whether that means that their film course will be more of a TV production course with a bit of film.

Both courses talk about their Avid editing suites (which is the industry standard and what you should be looking for if you want to graduate ready to start work) but AUB talks specifically about which cameras are available (https://aub.ac.uk/courses/ba/ba-film...ion/resources/ ) while Middlesex just talk about "60 HD Video cameras" http://www.mdx.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/film (and http://www.mdx.ac.uk/life-at-middles...oduction-suite talks about Sony HXC cameras).

It's likely that with either you're not going to be let loose on the expensive kit in your first years but again I'd say to contact middlesex and ask exactly what they have available and whether it's shared with the TV production course or available only to film students. With only around 30 students in each year it's a much smaller course than the AUB film course 90 students in a year - but that can spin either way depending on whether you want a large group of classmates or not...it probably explains why middlesex don't seem to have any £50k ARRI Alexa cameras but does mean that the kit isn't shared among so many students.

Looking at the website it does look like the middlesex course is a bit of a poor relation of the TV production course - in some ways that could be a positive given the merging of the two media over the last few years but it's up to you to decide if that's what you're looking for. As you say you'll have a very different experience in London v Bournemouth but only you can decide if you can afford it and would prefer it.
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Of the two only AUB is accreditect by Creative Skillset http://creativeskillset.org/search/3...=Undergraduate

That doesn't mean that the AUB course is better but it does mean it has met the requirements of industry involvement in the course design and delivery for accreditation. Middlesex have other courses accredited (their TV production courses) but not Film. It might be worth asking them directly about that and whether that means that their film course will be more of a TV production course with a bit of film.

Both courses talk about their Avid editing suites (which is the industry standard and what you should be looking for if you want to graduate ready to start work) but AUB talks specifically about which cameras are available (https://aub.ac.uk/courses/ba/ba-film...ion/resources/ ) while Middlesex just talk about "60 HD Video cameras" http://www.mdx.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/film (and http://www.mdx.ac.uk/life-at-middles...oduction-suite talks about Sony HXC cameras).

It's likely that with either you're not going to be let loose on the expensive kit in your first years but again I'd say to contact middlesex and ask exactly what they have available and whether it's shared with the TV production course or available only to film students. With only around 30 students in each year it's a much smaller course than the AUB film course 90 students in a year - but that can spin either way depending on whether you want a large group of classmates or not...it probably explains why middlesex don't seem to have any £50k ARRI Alexa cameras but does mean that the kit isn't shared among so many students.

Looking at the website it does look like the middlesex course is a bit of a poor relation of the TV production course - in some ways that could be a positive given the merging of the two media over the last few years but it's up to you to decide if that's what you're looking for. As you say you'll have a very different experience in London v Bournemouth but only you can decide if you can afford it and would prefer it.
Damn, I sort of wish now I had applied for the TV Production course.

But with the info you just said, I think I'm gonna go with Bournemouth.
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Damn, I sort of wish now I had applied for the TV Production course.

But with the info you just said, I think I'm gonna go with Bournemouth.
I bet if you ask them to swap they'd allow it - ring them up and ask a few questions about whether it's possible to switch and the facilities available
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I bet if you ask them to swap they'd allow it - ring them up and ask a few questions about whether it's possible to switch and the facilities available
How important do you think the Creative Skillset is?
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How important do you think the Creative Skillset is?
It's not the be all and end all - it just means someone else has done the research for you to check that industry opinions have been used in designing/reviewing the course content. There's lots of courses that would meet the skillset requirements but haven't been accredited - but in those cases it's up to the applicants to do the research and ask what feedback/involvement of industry was used in designing the course.
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Hello! I thought you were gonna transfer to NUA and now you say that you're not too keen, may I know what has put you off? I am just curious! Thank you!!
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Hello! I thought you were gonna transfer to NUA and now you say that you're not too keen, may I know what has put you off? I am just curious! Thank you!!
I was, but then I got offers from Bournemouth and Middlesex. The only thing I don't like about NUA is the equipment, the only have DSLRS. As someone who wants to be a cinematographer, it's sort of an issue.

I've spoken to students on the course though, and they all seem very positve about it though.
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I was, but then I got offers from Bournemouth and Middlesex. The only thing I don't like about NUA is the equipment, the only have DSLRS. As someone who wants to be a cinematographer, it's sort of an issue.

I've spoken to students on the course though, and they all seem very positve about it though.
ah I see! Thanks for your reply! Hope you can come up with a decision soon! All the best!
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Hello solar222222,

Congratulations on all your offers, it is great!
I have just graduated from Middlesex University and I loved my time here!
There are loads of things to get involved in, from societies, to sports to jobs on campus
I did Journalism and Media which is in the media department as film is!
There are amazing facilities! The TV studio is really state-of-art, it is huge with amazing cameras. We have also a free of charge loan store!
Ruben is currently studying film here at Middlesex, why don't you have a look at his thread? https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho....php?t=4401722

We are also running an Open day in the 10th of June, come, meet us and have a look at the University you can book your place here: https://mdx.hobsons.co.uk/Portal/EI/...1b4c0d6389d511

Let me know if you have any questions

Have a great day
Ludovica
Hey, I have a question. I like the course there, but it's not skill accredited with the Creative Skillset tick. Do you know anything about that?
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Looking at the website it does look like the middlesex course is a bit of a poor relation of the TV production course -
Sorry it's been a long time, when you said 'poor', what exactly did you mean?(if you can remember, again, sorry about that).

I've firmed Middlesex and I'm writing this at 4 in the morning because I'm panicking a little. Not sure if I've made a mistake or not.

I checked with Middlesex, and apparently they will be getting an accredited skillset soon for this course. The BA Film programme was established in 2011, so they were not eligible to apply for Skillset accreditation until after they had a critical mass of graduates from the programme.

The course for Television Production and Film were at one point joint into one course, but they seem to be still very linked. They told me that they would be happy for me to move to the other course if I wanted to.

In the end, I chose Middlesex because London I think strategically is the best place for my career. Worst comes to worst with the course, I'm still in London where all the main film jobs are. I also heard nothing but negative things coming from AUB graduates, while Middlesex graduates seem a lot more content (although, one AUB graduate told me the reason that people disliked the course at AUB so much, was because their standards are higher than students from other unis - not sure how I feel about that: sounds a bit like pretentious ********, but the the AUB course does have a ridiculous and unreal reputation to live up to).

There are some downsides. The equipment at Middlesex isn't as good as AUB, which is one of the reasons why I'm panicking. They have black magic kits, and 500c and 300c canons. I feel that I will be at a disadvantage because I haven't learnt to use the 'best' cameras. That's really it to be honest. I know people will say that you don't need to the best equipment to make a good film, but I still would like to learn.

If you have any thoughts, PLS let me know. Thank you
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