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Hey guys
So all of us know that there was this Manchester Arena Attack today
22 people were killed at Ariana Grande's concert
Was anyone affected by that? Or did it happen close to where you live, guys?
What are your views on this attack?

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22 killed not 19

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(Original post by Sammylou40)
22 killed not 19

Oh sorry
Just checked now
This morning when I read the news, it said 19, but now they've confirmed it as 22
I'll edit it
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There's another thread going about this.

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There's another thread going about this.

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Terribly sorry
I didn't notice the other threads
If you want, I could close this thread

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Terribly sorry
I didn't notice the other threads
If you want, I could close this thread

Up to you but be warned that this will probably get derailed soon.

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(Original post by Moonstruck16)
Up to you but be warned that this will probably get derailed soon.

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:erm:

derailed?

Yeah, the perpetrator will be assumed as Muslim and people will use this an an excuse to blame over a billion people for the actions of one person

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Yeah, the perpetrator will be assumed as Muslim and people will use this an an excuse to blame over a billion people for the actions of one person

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ISIS claims responsibility for Manchester attack
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...z&ocid=UP97DHP

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8 year old girl named second victim of attack
Grande says she's 'broken' after Manchester attack

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(Original post by Dodgypirate)
Congratulations!!

(Original post by Underscore__)
Yeah, the perpetrator will be assumed as Muslim and people will use this an an excuse to blame over a billion people for the actions of one person

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We need to blame the circumstances of what turns people to such radicalism and evil and not blame their religion. People feel alienated by capitalist society, let down, robbed of hope and opportunity. So they look for an society that is against the system that she caused them such misery and hopelessness.
We need to stop this by giving young people hope and fairness. Society needs to admit its own blame and errors instead of always blaming others. Maybe it's society that needs to 'Buck up its ideas'

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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
We need to blame the circumstances of what turns people to such radicalism and evil and not blame their religion. People feel alienated by capitalist society, let down, robbed of hope and opportunity. So they look for an society that is against the system that she caused them such misery and hopelessness.
We need to stop this by giving young people hope and fairness. Society needs to admit its own blame and errors instead of always blaming others. Maybe it's society that needs to 'Buck up its ideas'

You are absolutely right

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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
We need to blame the circumstances of what turns people to such radicalism and evil and not blame their religion. People feel alienated by capitalist society, let down, robbed of hope and opportunity. So they look for an society that is against the system that she caused them such misery and hopelessness.
We need to stop this by giving young people hope and fairness. Society needs to admit its own blame and errors instead of always blaming others. Maybe it's society that needs to 'Buck up its ideas'

People feel alienated by capitalist society, let down, robbed of hope and opportunity. So they look for an society that is against the system that she caused them such misery and hopelessness.

Any explanation as to why only Muslims are so affected by capitalist society they feel the need to slaughter children at a pop concert?

No other demographic seems to react to our capitalist society in the same way.

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People feel alienated by capitalist society, let down, robbed of hope and opportunity. So they look for an society that is against the system that she caused them such misery and hopelessness.

Any explanation as to why only Muslims are so affected by capitalist society they feel the need to slaughter children at a pop concert?

No other demographic seems to react to our capitalist society in the same way.

It was the ISIS
And muslims can never be blamed for what the ISIS did
ISIS is only a small proportion of muslims, and the whole religion can never be pointed out for what they did!

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(Original post by Reshyna)
It was the ISIS
And muslims can never be blamed for what the ISIS did
ISIS is only a small proportion of muslims, and the whole religion can never be pointed out for what they did!

Then it is the tiniest percentage then that our society "alienates" then? We are not in any way to blame for what happened. That they twist their teachings to suit their agenda is their own responsibility. Not ours. Ever.

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What are your views on this attack?

ISIL evidentally claimed responsibility for the attack, therefore my view about it's what my view on all the other tragedies in France, Germany, Etcetera were: the west's having an epidemic of integrating people from different areas, and that because you can't screen for ideology this's going to happen essentially till the ideology dies out.

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Then it is the tiniest percentage then that our society "alienates" then? We are not in any way to blame for what happened. That they twist their teachings to suit their agenda is their own responsibility. Not ours. Ever.

Not trying to say like that
ISIS are terrorists, so this religion does not need to be mixed up with terrorism
If they are terrorists, they could not be trusted, all of us know it
And religion has nothing to do with terrorism
There could be other terrorists out there, so are we all concerned about what their religion is? Nah,
Why does everyone point out Islam?
That's my question
I don't want to derail the thread
ISIS isn't the only terrorist group in this world, there could be some others out there, so guys please don't point out islam, in this matter
Terrorism has nothing to do with religion

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(Original post by Reshyna)
Not trying to say like that
ISIS are terrorists, so this religion does not need to be mixed up with terrorism
If they are terrorists, they could not be trusted, all of us know it
And religion has nothing to do with terrorism
There could be other terrorists out there, so are we all concerned about what their religion is? Nah,
Why does everyone point out Islam?
That's my question
I don't want to derail the thread
ISIS isn't the only terrorist group in this world, there could be some others out there, so guys please don't point out islam, in this matter
Terrorism has nothing to do with religion

Daesh are Muslims though. They interpret Islam in their own twisted way, much like Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK interpret Christianity in their own way. Terrorism has no religion but a lot of current terrorism is to do with Islam.

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(Original post by Reshyna)
Not trying to say like that
ISIS are terrorists, so this religion does not need to be mixed up with terrorism
If they are terrorists, they could not be trusted, all of us know it
And religion has nothing to do with terrorism
There could be other terrorists out there, so are we all concerned about what their religion is? Nah,
Why does everyone point out Islam?
That's my question
I don't want to derail the thread
ISIS isn't the only terrorist group in this world, there could be some others out there, so guys please don't point out islam, in this matter
Terrorism has nothing to do with religion

When the terrorists themselves claim it is Islamic and in the name of allah it is everything to do with Islam. Just their own twisted version of it. I don't think for one single second that all muslims think the same way The majority are not to blame

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