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AQA 9-1 GCSE Maths (Higher) - 2017 Paper 1 [Official Thread] 25 May

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Original post by lucyj9
So mad because I know how to do it but got the trig values wrong. Put root three minus root three over 12 instead of root 6 minus root 3 over 12. Arg!


It was over 4 not 12
Original post by KieranMistry
It was over 4 not 12


No, sorry, the answer was actually over 12, not 4.
for last question:
sin60= (√2)/2 tan45= 1 tan60= √3
therefore it's (√6 - √3)/12
when you get 4√3 for denominator you have to rationalise it by multiplying top and bottom by √3
Original post by TheMightyBadger
This is exactly what I thought, because as you have said the latter is completely wrong. I originally got the latter but spent a while thinking about it and decided to give the former because the former is the correct formula; otherwise you cannot convert into miles correctly.


I did direct proportinal exuation and so got y=x*8/5

might be 5/8 i cant remebr what x and y were
Original post by iamawesome1404
Neither did I... better not have missed it out


Vectors was probably on foundation don't worry aha
For those wanting to know about the miles to kilometres question. This is how it went

x miles : y kilometres
5 miles : 8 Kilometres

The question states write y in terms of x [2 marks]

step 1, put them in fractions as they are ratio:
This meant; x/y = 5/8
Flip all them over
y/x = 8/5

Now rearrange it, y = (8/5) x = 8x/5

Therefore it WAS y = (8x)/5

In case people don't agree: Here is metric conversions . org's results.

I put in 2 miles, which was around 3.2 kilometres.

2 miles = x miles, therefore x = 2
Put x = 2 into the equation

y = (8x2)/5 = 16/5 = 3.2 kilometres, which is near the value that the website gave me.

If it was (5x)/8 as people are saying, then 2 miles would give me (5x2)8 = 10/8 = 1.25 kilometres, which is incorrect in conversion.
(edited 6 years ago)
For the bottles one, I wrote the amount of money it costs for the cheapest 8, and I wrote something along the lines of 2 from shop A, and 2 for Shop B... would I lose a mark for not writing 6 bottles from shop A, what I meant with '2 from shop A' is (2 times the 3 bottles) in the deal.
Original post by Rian Kelly
Vectors was probably on foundation don't worry aha


But that is mathematically similar. You are stating that miles = 1.6 kilometres? No, that's contradicting the given example.

Consider this:


You are proposing that miles = 1.6 x kilometres
In this case, 80 kilometres must be 1.6 x 80 = 80 + 48 = 128 miles.
However, 80 kilometres is actually 50 miles.

Rather, consider this:
- y/miles is directly proportional to x/kilometres
- therefore y/x = 50/80 = 5/8 = k
- thus y = 5/8x

Let's check this with the conversion given that 80 km = 50 miles.
50 = 5/8 x 80
50 = 50 --> it works.

Thus, y = 5/8 x = 5x/8.
Original post by bobetter
I did direct proportinal exuation and so got y=x*8/5

might be 5/8 i cant remebr what x and y were


See my earlier comment.
Original post by thekidwhogames
But that is mathematically similar. You are stating that miles = 1.6 kilometres? No, that's contradicting the given example.

Consider this:


You are proposing that miles = 1.6 x kilometres
In this case, 80 kilometres must be 1.6 x 80 = 80 + 48 = 128 miles.
However, 80 kilometres is actually 50 miles.

Rather, consider this:
- y/miles is directly proportional to x/kilometres
- therefore y/x = 50/80 = 5/8 = k
- thus y = 5/8x

Let's check this with the conversion given that 80 km = 50 miles.
50 = 5/8 x 80
50 = 50 --> it works.

Thus, y = 5/8 x = 5x/8.


but 1 miles = 1.6km.

I gave it to google and it gave me around 1.6km.

thus the question said 5 miles : 8 kilometres.

Divide both of the ratious by 5 so u get 1 mile

that gives u 1 miles : 1.6 kilometres.

That is correct.
Original post by rickH123
but 1 miles = 1.6km.

I gave it to google and it gave me around 1.6km.

thus the question said 5 miles : 8 kilometres.

Divide both of the ratious by 5 so u get 1 mile

that gives u 1 miles : 1.6 kilometres.

That is correct.


Exactly...

1 mile = 1.6 km

But your equation, y = 1.6x, implies that 80 kilometres would be y = 1.6 x 80 = 128 miles. You see where I'm going with this?

1 mile = 1.6 km
Therefore mile < kilometre
Therefore y < x
Therefore y = 5/8 x.
Original post by thekidwhogames
Exactly...

1 mile = 1.6 km

But your equation, y = 1.6x, implies that 80 kilometres would be y = 1.6 x 80 = 128 miles. You see where I'm going with this?

1 mile = 1.6 km
Therefore mile < kilometre
Therefore y < x
Therefore y = 5/8 x.


according to you, y = km, and x = miles



according to your equation you state that y = 5/8x

if u put 1 mile into the equation, u get x = 1, which would give u (5x1)/8 = 0.625 km.

But 1 mile =/= 0.625km.

However if u had x = 1 into my equation, u get (8x1)/5 = 1.6 km.

1 mile == 1.6km.

we can put the value of 80 kilometres into miles in to the equation. 80 miles = 128 km.

therefore x = 80

8x80 / 5 = 128. this is correct.

You see the method?

I think u got the x and the y muddled up.
Original post by rickH123


according to you, y = km, and x = miles



according to your equation you state that y = 5/8x

if u put 1 mile into the equation, u get x = 1, which would give u (5x1)/8 = 0.625 km.

But 1 mile =/= 0.625km.

However if u had x = 1 into my equation, u get (8x1)/5 = 1.6 km.

1 mile == 1.6km.

we can put the value of 80 kilometres into miles in to the equation. 80 miles = 128 km.

therefore x = 80

8x80 / 5 = 128. this is correct.

You see the method?

I think u got the x and the y muddled up.

Y was miles. X was kilometres. So you're saying y = 1.6x?
So miles = 1.6 kilometres?
Mate, I'm sure it's miles = 5/8 kilometre.
So y = 5x/8

Can you check it?
What is question 7?
Original post by thekidwhogames
Y was miles. X was kilometres. So you're saying y = 1.6x?
So miles = 1.6 kilometres?
Mate, I'm sure it's miles = 5/8 kilometre.
So y = 5x/8

Can you check it?


y was not miles. The exam paper putted x first, then y. so x = miles, and y was kilometre.
Original post by rickH123
y was not miles. The exam paper putted x first, then y. so x = miles, and y was kilometre.


I'm 100% sure that y was miles, x was kilometres. Even if it wasn't, can you check the equation in this case for y, so miles? Because it was definitely miles as teachers had gotten the answer y = 5x/8.

It wasn't in order hence the confusion.
Original post by rickH123
For those wanting to know about the miles to kilometres question. This is how it went

x miles : y kilometres
5 miles : 8 Kilometres

The question states write y in terms of x [2 marks]

step 1, put them in fractions as they are ratio:
This meant; x/y = 5/8
Flip all them over
y/x = 8/5

Now rearrange it, y = (8/5) x = 8x/5

Therefore it WAS y = (8x)/5

In case people don't agree: Here is metric conversions . org's results.

I put in 2 miles, which was around 3.2 kilometres.

2 miles = x miles, therefore x = 2
Put x = 2 into the equation

y = (8x2)/5 = 16/5 = 3.2 kilometres, which is near the value that the website gave me.

If it was (5x)/8 as people are saying, then 2 miles would give me (5x2)8 = 10/8 = 1.25 kilometres, which is incorrect in conversion.


y was miles and x was kilometres...
Original post by thekidwhogames
I'm 100% sure that y was miles, x was kilometres. Even if it wasn't, can you check the equation in this case for y, so miles? Because it was definitely miles as teachers had gotten the answer y = 5x/8.

It wasn't in order hence the confusion.


I fully agree with you.
I forgot about question what is question 7 about!?
Original post by thekidwhogames
I'm 100% sure that y was miles, x was kilometres. Even if it wasn't, can you check the equation in this case for y, so miles? Because it was definitely miles as teachers had gotten the answer y = 5x/8.

It wasn't in order hence the confusion.


miles = 5 x kilometres / 8
kilometres = 8
So we have 5x8/8 = 5

papers always put x first when referrring to algebra. Never seen them do y first.

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