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Should I attempt to be on your level?

I don't even know what I want from this. I'm just wondering whether I should even be in uni, or any form of education for that matter.

Everyone seems to have an an opinion on things, and I just don't seem to have. They have an opinion on social matters, politics, the economy, the environment, education standards, racism, sexism, the list goes on.

They seem to know a lot about a lot of things. Mathematics, Chemistry, Philosophy, Religion, Atheism. Political movements, history, the history of politics. Even just general knowledge. People 5 years younger than me seem to know more about those subjects than I do.

Everyone seems to be cultured. They can talk about Monet, Bansky, Lowry, da Vinci, Van Gogh, Muse, Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, J.R.R Tolkien (apparently there is debate as to whether the fact the Orcs are described as dark skinned means Tolkien was a racist) and any number of people I've never heard off. They can be involved in witty debate, they can make witticisms and sarcastic comments, they can write a poem, a story and understand irony. I couldn’t tell you the difference between a verb and an adverb, and what an adjective is till my 15 year old sister told me last week! And I’ve already forgotten what an adjective is.

People who aren’t interested in the same type of music as me seem to know the names of more artists in my genre than I do.

And everyone seems to have a life. Even the people who complain about not making friends at uni, talk about friends they have back home. They don’t seem to have any hang-ups. They’ve been places. People who are less well off than me have been to 10 times the places I’ve been.

Everyone seems to have a skill. They can play instruments, do a martial art, are good at sport, can do something interesting like origami, can down a pint in less than 10 seconds.

Everyone seems to be able to do things, to be apathetic. I don’t think I can feel anything outside of myself. I’m self centred and arrogant and selfish.

I hate myself. That’s purely it. And look at me, whining to a bunch of people on the internet. Instead of doing something about this I’m sat here on my fat arse whining to you lot. Maybe I should drop out of uni and live life on the dole, before dieing a fat, bald old man in front of a TV on a sofa that smells of my own piss and vomit, then not being found for 2 weeks, before someone finds me a puts me in a trash bag to be picked up by the bin men.

Let the “you’re right you whining stupid git, drop out of uni, stop wasting our time and die already” begin. Maybe I won’t give you the satisfaction of knowing I died a fat old prick. Maybe I should just kill myself now. ‘Cept I can’t do that ‘cos I’m too much of a coward.

I bet more than half of what I said you don't understand, and none of it goes anywhere. I just abruptly change subject

Evryone seems to have had some life changing experience. People who didn't have any motivation, suddenly have a revelation and are all motivated and know longer give a flying **** about what other people think. Oh how I would love for that kind of experience.




Aarrgghh this is driving me insane.!!!!!

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Reply 1

well i do understand what you said , but i have to say when people seem like they are so cultured and happy and joyous 9/10 they are not.

Reply 2

With near 3000 posts, one would assume you certainly do have alot to contribute. I cant imagine ALL of your topics have been as pointless as this.

Stop trying to compare yourself to thousands of people who dont know and instead accept who you are for yourself.

Reply 3

You see only their outer selves. They all have their worries too. Their worries are just as important and valid to them as yours are to you. In fact, they probably have the exact same worries as you.

You see (or at least you think you do) everything about your inner self. You ignore your own good points unconsciously, seeing only your own bad points. You compare your own inner self (one person) with an ubermensch composed of the good points of everyone at your uni's outer selves.

You had better not listen to my claptrap clichéd pseudo-psychoanalysis, as I sure as hell don't know what I'm talking about, except the bold bits, which I am sure of. Also, it's quite late, and I'm probably writing this more for the benefit of myself than anyone else. I feel quite apathetic.

Reply 4

I feel the same if it helps.

Reply 5

Jesus.

Well, first - did you have to look those names up? 'Cause you got an awful lot in there off the top of your head, and some pretty good spelling there too.

Anyway - don't worry about it! I know lots of people going to uni that think Staccato is a type of pizza. If you really want to, then just read a few books, or watch the news - but don't feel pressured. We all have different interests.

There, there.

Reply 6

I wouldn't worry about what people on here think/portray themselves as, they're mostly concerned with appearing as "cool" as possible (on an internet forum, no less). As for real people, they're probably just showing off something they read the week before. Or blagging it. There's a few people in the world who bother to become knowledgeable about practically everything; the rest of the world is just people who ignore "general knowledge" or pretend they're experts.

Reply 7

I hate those self-obsessed pricks who come into class gobbing off about their opinions because they have read one book on the subject or seen something about it on dispatches. It's just that the people you see most of at uni are the arrogant tossheads who think they know it all. Just be glad you don't have a pile of irrelevant opinions on topics you dont know anything about. I'm pretty sure the lecturers don't like it when these 18 year old idiots come in shouting about their opinions and thinking they know everything about the topic; you are there to learn about your subject, not to assume you know it all already.

In short...I feel the same :smile: No reason to quit though. I think the majority of students aren't particularly well travelled or opinionated, they just don't mouth off as much about their experiences as others

Reply 8

Most people don't know that much. And it doesn't matter anyway, as long as you're happy.

It's quite easy to 'tick boxes', and we're encouraged to do so when writing personal statements. Join a sports soc (you don't have to be good, you can become good), do a bit of voluntary work, do a language course etc. Most people who play instruments come from very middle class backgrounds and were pushed into it by their parents at a young age. Most life changing experiences come from unfortunate life events or the stuff people do on gap years.

Maybe you're just socialising with the wrong people. I find the types who reel off everything they know quite annoying. (annoying is an adjective btw) It rarely impresses me because I jfigure they've probably been reading about their exceedingly boring subject for hours on end.

Obviously there's things we'd all like to know more about, but it takes time, time which could be spent doing more fun things! :smile:

Reply 9

On an internet forum, it might seem like everyone knows about everything, but that's not necessarily true. People are likely to have an OPINION about everything, that they don't mind discussing, but generally each person's knowledge is more focused on one area - because there're so many of us, that gets lost in a flood of discussions. I, for example, will post on most things I have an opinion on - but other than a complete understanding of myself, which I use in my discussions in most posts; the only other real opinions I have are on the educational system, and on university itself. That doesn't, however, stop me posting my opinions on political or historical matters, if other people have already provided the facts. This is the internet, people seem to understand a lot more than they otherwise would because they've got Google at their fingertips for the facts, and all they need then is an opinion.

As for the other points in your post; if you're worried about experiences, go out and get some. It's as simple as that, and there really is no other answer. There are opportunities every day, and though I used to ignore most of them, I now recognise every single one, and take each opportunity that comes my way, regardless of the expected outcome. I guess that ties in with your point about the self-realisation kinds of moments, and the life-changing experiences - it's just a case of caring only about gaining experience and becoming a better person.

I'd recommend just trying, for a few days, to pay very close attention to every opportunity you get, no matter how small it seems, or how disasterously wrong it could go. It's just a case of learning to appreciate everything completely, that makes life fun. :smile:

Reply 10

Hiya :smile: Remember me Matt?

Perhaps you remember me and my dropping out of uni? I do regret leaving. I thought some of the things that you did, perhaps quite a lot of the things that you did, but looking back now, I do regret leaving.
These people that seem to be able to talk on a range of various different things, or have skills you feel you can't equal, don't think that they are to be looked upon as competition, think of them as assets you can learn from maybe?

I'm sure that you do have skills knowledge on particular subjects you know well, but you just don't realise that they are there or value them as much as you see their value in others.

Of course, I do talk a lot of rubbish I have no understanding of, as you know, so you can disregard my post as my useless ramblings if required. :smile:

Reply 11

think of them as assets you can learn from maybe?


No! Don't learn to be like them, just be you.

Reply 12

I wouldn't try to be like the others, it'll probably only make you unhappier! I'm sure you have your own unique qualities, and it may just be that you're overlooking these because of insecurity. It's ok to be insecure within a group of new people, but you just need to be yourself, and you will eventually form your own niche :smile: Don't worry!

Reply 13

Everyone feels like that sometimes.

I feel stupid around some of my friends, when really deep down I know I'm not. I feel like I have no social life compared to others, but then compared to different people I have a stupid number of friends.

Its all relative. You only see what people want you to see most of the time.

And I can honestly say about the only person I've heard of on that list was Tolkien. And I thought orcs were green...

(Oh and one thing I do know; an adjective's a describing word :p: )

Reply 14

I feel your pain. I'm religiously and politically apathetic. I know not of art or music.

Your post sounds exactly like my head as I walked out of a club last night on my own, pissed off with everything and everyone.

Have you just started uni? Do you get on with your flatmates? People on your course? Any societies?

To answer your question "Should I attempt to be on your level?":
You are on their level. I think that you have got the same level of knowledge as the others, but in different areas. No one shows off about being cultured in computer games, but I am. To the naked eye, I may seem like I have nothing to offer, but we just aren't talking about what I want to.

Reply 15

The way that piece is written, well you certainly appear intelligent from that.

I can relate to some of the things you are saying, definitely. Stuff like politics, I don't have a clue about any of it. Sure some people might be able to have lengthy conversations on the likes of Monet et al but some people probably just blag it! I haven't experienced a life changing experience either, I don't really think many people have!

Try not to compare yourself to these know-it-all types. Yes they may know pointless facts about some artist or whoever but it doesn't make them any more interesting/happy and they certainly aren't a better person because of it!

:smile:

Reply 16

Stop whining and learn something? Join a club and get good at something? Leave the house and meet people? Maybe? Huh?

Reply 17

Start reading.

Books books books.

Or learn to dance and walk into uni and start dancing randomly.

Reply 18

You cant recycle stupid advice on two threads :s-smilie:

Reply 19

Trigger
You cant recycle stupid advice on two threads :s-smilie:


Yeah but the advice is the same.

For example, if one person asks "how do I trim my pubic hair?" and the other asked "how do I trim my beard?", the answer would be the same.