Could you please rank those unis in terms of prestige for engineering?

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Leicester, queens Belfast, Liverpool, manchester metropolitan, Swansea Thanks in advance!
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Leicester, queens Belfast, Liverpool, manchester metropolitan, Swansea Thanks in advance!
"Prestige" doesn't matter if you want to be an engineer. But you can check the various rankings easily yourself.

Have you already applied, or visited these universities? For which course?


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Leicester, queens Belfast, Liverpool, manchester metropolitan, Swansea Thanks in advance!
What sort of engineering?
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"Prestige" doesn't matter if you want to be an engineer. But you can check the various rankings easily yourself.

Have you already applied, or visited these universities? For which course?


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I have but the rankings are misleading and change every year and include stuff like student experience which for me don't really matter at all. Aerospace engineering
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What sort of engineering?
Aerospace
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I have but the rankings are misleading and change every year and include stuff like student experience which for me don't really matter at all. Aerospace engineering
So the typical, and equally mistaken, measure of "prestige" is "are they in the Russell Group". Of your list, QUB and Liverpool are RG.

Which do *you* prefer?

How did you come up with this shortlist?

And I'll ask again, have you visited them?

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I have but the rankings are misleading and change every year and include stuff like student experience which for me don't really matter at all. Aerospace engineering
Hi there.

Yes, the league tables are often very arbitrary due to the inherent arbitrariness of both the performance metrics used and their associated weightings. Student satisfaction is probably only second to "value added" for the ignominious title of worst metric.

A good rule of thumb for you to use is ranking the universities by "hard" metrics. The best one for your purposes is entry standards, which serves as a good indicator of university prestige and does not fluctuate as much year on year.

The logic is as follows: more academically rigorous universities have greater prestige, employers hold them in greater stead, these universities are more competitive to gain entry and hence the entry requirements are greater.

Here's the entry standards for the universities you specified using the old UCAS tariff system (which changed this year):

QUB (389)
Liverpool (387)
Leicester (374)
Manchester Met (346)
Swansea (317)

Overall, I would say that QUB and Liverpool are the most prestigious and they are also part of the RG, which are viewed highly by many (not by me however). In my opinion, QUB > Liverpool but at the end of the day I think your decision will boil down to which country you want to spend 3/4 years of your life in.
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Swansea has a bit more of an emphasis on engineering than the others, it was a big up and comer over the last few years but it's stagnated a bit this year. I still think that would be my choice out of the 5 though if I was applying for aerospace again.

It's not a prestige issue so much as this is how good I've heard their course is and how much employers want to employ graduates from there.
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Look at the course content - tbh none of those are particularly noted for Engineering.

Which offer a year in industry? Are they using CFD and modern software like Solidworks, CATIA. SO much of engineering is software based that the newer unis prepare you better for industry.

Look for group projects, workshop experience etc.
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Prestige is a brand of saucepans popular in the 60s and 70s. It shouldn't be applied to university choices.
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I have but the rankings are misleading and change every year and include stuff like student experience which for me don't really matter at all. Aerospace engineering
Which should tell you they are a pretty silly way to choose a Uni.
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QUB has Bombardier on its doorstep.

It also has a wind tunnel, unlike Liverpool.

And to, Muttley79, uses Solidworks and has an optional YINI.

And a £27k average starting salary for grads vs £23k for Swansea Helloworld_95
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QUB = Liverpool > Leicester > Swansea = Manchester Met
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I have but the rankings are misleading and change every year and include stuff like student experience which for me don't really matter at all. Aerospace engineering
I am going to study Aero eng at uni this September
I have many friends who have studied Aero engineering or are still studying at uni

Why do you want to aerospace?

There is no point checking the prestige as each uni offers different courses and Modules
Instead of prestige look for what you like
I would say look to go in the top 100 university in England and that university should be in top 25 in the Aerospace sector into ranking ( in that course) if not top 50 depending on your situation

I have applied to go Hertfordshire as it is in the top 100 in UK and Top 25 in the Aerospace
And one of the uni which is just 50+ Years and so is Brunel ( however I'm not doing A2 Physics so I didn't apply to Brunel)

I like the course way of teaching and Modules at Herts and Brunel
That's why I chose these uni and they are both ranking high in the top 100 -and let alone in the top 25 in the Aerospace

Plus Herts has the highest employability after graduation 👨*🎓 96%
So please research a bit
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Prestige is a brand of saucepans popular in the 60s and 70s. It shouldn't be applied to university choices.
Mind you it's still very popular now in India
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Leicester, queens Belfast, Liverpool, manchester metropolitan, Swansea Thanks in advance!
Liverpool
Leicester
Queens Belfast
Swansea
Man Met
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QUB has Bombardier on its doorstep.

It also has a wind tunnel, unlike Liverpool.

And to, Muttley79, uses Solidworks and has an optional YINI.

And a £27k average starting salary for grads vs £23k for Swansea Helloworld_95
Swansea has far more people going into further study, hence the lower starting salary, additionally a lot more people from Belfast end up unemployed.
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Swansea has far more people going into further study, hence the lower starting salary, additionally a lot more people from Belfast end up unemployed.
Well tbf both samples are tiny...

It seems unlikely 28% (Swansea) would really do further study after an MEng...?

And those going into further study are excluded from average salary data.
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Well tbf both samples are tiny...

It seems unlikely 28% (Swansea) would really do further study after an MEng...?

And those going into further study are excluded from average salary data.
But then you could argue that the low salary at Swansea and high salary at QUB are as a result of the small sample lol
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But then you could argue that the low salary at Swansea and high salary at QUB are as a result of the small sample lol
Absolutely.

None of this is really that good a way to pick a course. I think you'd agree, OP needs to find a course they like at a university they want to study at.

"Prestige" is the absolute least valuable thing to be researching. Especially when none of the choices are especially "prestigious" anyway.
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