Anna May Mangan - my hatred of

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Some of you must surely share my hatred of Anna May Mangan.

if not i'm sure you will after reading
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article2752204.ece?Submitted=true
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/you/article.html?in_article_id=404855&in_page_id=1908

Reply 1

Number6

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"Oh, I didn't have time to read Hello for weeks" wah wah wah. Why bother doing all that if you're just going to moan about the sacrifices you made? It's not about her, it's about her kids. And she seems a little hypocritcal, doesn't she?

Daily Mail article

The most vicious criticism of my interest in my daughters' applications was from parents whose children have had a private education and used every consultancy service available at sky high prices or were able to exploit personal connections to further their child's ambitions.

And yet...

Later on in the Daily Mail article

Throw whatever money you can afford to boost any weak areas of the application. There are tutors, consultants and courses for every aspect of the process, but spend wisely. I rated Dr Prep's Interview Training highly; Medsim's course as very social but not essential; and GradMed's BMAT preparation is rushed and poor value. Shop around and compare carefully.

Reply 2

MrFernando

Those two links are the first time I have come across her but there are many others out there. Certainly she did what she felt was best for her kids but ultimately deserved to fail wth her first son because she didnt it seems even care about the course/uni etc he was looking at.

Pushy mothers (and fathers) exist, enough students continue I believe to get into top Unis and school without them to show that it takes more than that. The 'hatred' I would have of her is the trying to make money off the back of it with a book...shes praying on the problems she had that will be faced by the next set of a level students and their parents.

Perhaps overall its a bit sad that it comes to this...the ultra competitive nature when really it should be off each and every students own back to get to where they want.

anyway, head up!

Mr F
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Reply 3

Saffie

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Just read the "Proud to be pushy" article.

I pity her daughters if they ever want to quit.
I'd find it pretty embarrasing to quit and my family practically begged me not to do medicine!

I suppose this is 'unfair' but life's unfair. Some people get all their accomodation or fees paid by their parents, they're higher on my hit list! :smile:

Reply 4

RetiredAccount89

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moreiniho

Some of you must surely share my hatred of Anna May Mangan.

if not i'm sure you will after reading
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article2752204.ece?Submitted=true
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/you/article.html?in_article_id=404855&in_page_id=1908

Shes looking out for her kids, why do you hate her so much?

Reply 5

Wangers

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moreiniho

Some of you must surely share my hatred of Anna May Mangan.

if not i'm sure you will after reading
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article2752204.ece?Submitted=true
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/you/article.html?in_article_id=404855&in_page_id=1908

I don't hate, I does worry me though:

TimesOnlineArticle

but none was a waste of their time and my money (about £1,000 in total) because Molly and Martha got to talk to doctors, resit students and most importantly had a close look at the competition.

I cant comment on Medsim, but working in a hospital/clinic would give ample oppotunities to talk to medics...

TimesOnlineArticle

Work experience is essential for a medical school application, and it can be very hard to secure. Together we contacted more than 50 hospitals, clinics and care homes. Finally a hospice accepted all three of us. I ambled around each week with the tea and biscuits trolley and Molly and Martha dashed about with the jelly and ice cream one. Critics described me as “psychotic” for muscling in on their work experience but Molly and Martha got a lift there and back each week, and I got a lift from being there.

They clearly never thought work experience isn't a babysitting afternoon, its about seeing for yourself what the enviroments like and learning about yourself...If they asked on the phone for 3 places, one of them being the mother - I can see why it took so many calls!

Its just so ****ing artificial :frown:

Reply 6

coolguy456

Molly and Martha would be among 20,000 hopefuls trying to win one of 800 places at medical school

Where did she get that info from?

Reply 7

Becca-Sarah

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She may just be looking out for her kids, but its an incredibly extreme way of doing it. Part of getting work experience is finding the initiative to get it: her kids can't display that because she organised their work exp.

What she's done may have helped her daughters tremendously, but surely it makes things more difficult for future applicants? There are already enough criteria for medicine as it is (UKCAT, BMAT, interview, work exp, PS, ref, grades, etc) that we don't need 'pushy parent' added to that list.

Reply 8

Censored

I feel really bad about my application now because I have refused on principle to go on MedLink or Interview Training Courses. I hate parents like her!!

Reply 9

Wangers

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Censored

I feel really bad about my application now because I have refused on principle to go on MedLink or Interview Training Courses. I hate parents like her!!

What principle would that be? I diddn't go because a) I couldn't afford it, and b) heard from friends it wasn't the best 200quid to spend - abeit great fun :smile:

Reply 10

Censored

lol I have had friends say that, but I feel that you are just playing them by a game tricking the system to let you in. Shouldn't you be portraying the real you, not text book answers that were taught to you in a weekend? Or am I too naive and need to grow up?

Reply 11

samie

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medlink and medsim are a waste of time...so many people go to it, thats its nothing speacial now and you can do most of the stuff u do at medlink/medsim for free at other carrer fairs etc.

Reply 12

GregoryJL

Is anyone worried that with steadily increasing competition Medicine will not consist of those best suited to the profession, but rather those best at seeming the best suited?

Reply 13

Terrafire

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I wouldn't mind most of her pushiness, but actually going with her daughters to their work experience was taking it a little too far.

Reply 14

Speedbird2008

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I personally think she is a pushy parent, going over the top.

My parents are not at all pushy, they let me get on with my own thing, and okay, sometimes I want a push, but in general they let me make my own decisions, and I end up on a guilt trip if I don't do well.

I would not like a mother like that, to be honest. I would like to decide myself what to do, decide myself the best way to get into Medicine, with advive from teachers or, dare I say it, this fine forum - and decide for my future.

I want to make independant decisions, not be molly cuddled the way to being a doctor.

But, if she is doing the best she thinks for her children, then fine, but I don't necessarily agree with it. :smile:

Reply 15

Speedbird2008

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Haha, just read the last little bits:

"•Use the numerous free resources: My girls loved www.newmediamedicine.com, www.admissionsforum.co.uk and www.thestudentroom.co.uk "

Maybe she is amongst us!!!! Make your self heard, Anna May Mangan Jnr! :wink:

Reply 16

icapturethecastle

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couldn't finish all of it...she sounds kind of irritating...too annoying for a sunday night anyhow

i can see (op) why she makes you annoyed, but i guess she's just doing what she thinks is right

Reply 17

icapturethecastle

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Speedbird2007

Haha, just read the last little bits:

"•Use the numerous free resources: My girls loved www.newmediamedicine.com, www.admissionsforum.co.uk and www.thestudentroom.co.uk "

Maybe she is amongst us!!!! Make your self heard, Anna May Mangan Jnr! :wink:

i wonder if they're on here now...

or..now that they're in med school, they've probably scarpered

Reply 18

arpeggio

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Everything she did for her children I've had to do for myself, and I'm glad I have. Her going along to her daughters' work experience really takes the biscuit! In a way I can understand where she's coming from, but if she was my mum I think I'd ask her to back off.

Reply 19

bright star

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they don't sound like they'd have enough of a sense of humour to hang around here.....

Anna May Mangan - my hatred of

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