How much power do the labour party have in parliament now?

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Spratty
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How much weight will they have when discussing matters like tax, student loans, healthcare, etc?
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Considering the fact that the DUP and Tories might form a coalition or atleast an unofficial alliance means that Labour's interests are in a weaker position than before, despite having more seats. Either way- our government is not "strong and stable", and this "coalition of chaos" basically means we are worse off. But I guess Labour can put a lot more pressure on the Tories none the less.
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Tax, student loans and the health budget will all be part of the Budget so all Labour can do is vote against it and they won't have enough votes to block it.

The main difference of the increased Labour presence will be felt on other issues, eg issues about civil liberties, fox hunting (if that comes up) or potentially issues related to Europe, where there may also be Conservative back benchers who are uneasy with the policy of the government. The Government will now be very vulnerable to MPs breaking ranks and voting against the Government. Although Theresa May will try no doubt to impose strong party discipline through the Whips, the Tory party has a long history of independent-minded thinking on the back benches and their MPs will not be bullied from No.10.
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Labour will remain simply the opposition. Whilst the Conservatives are in power.

Labour lost and were a full 57 seats short of the Tories and that's without DUP seats.
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How much weight will they have when discussing matters like tax, student loans, healthcare, etc?
Not much more power than before the election, the result was such that the Tories don't have the power to do much but neither does Labour have the power to stop much. It's only being treated as a victory by the left because they believe it marks a turning point.
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Not much more power than before the election, the result was such that the Tories don't have the power to do much but neither does Labour have the power to stop much. It's only being treated as a victory by the left because they believe it marks a turning point.
They do have more power than before when it comes to the Tories trying to put through controversial measures, because on any measures where there are a few Conservative backbenchers uncomfortable and willing to vote against the Government, there is the spectre of the opposition parties being able to put forward a vote of no confidence if the Government struggles to get things through. [Although this really means Conservative backbenchers are the ones who have had really increased power]. And this election result will have chastened the Tories because no longer can they bank on the fact that they can just call an election and wipe out Labour like they thought they could before. They won't fancy calling an election this year as there is real risk Labour will become the largest party, if not have an overall majority.

In 2-3 years time that situation could change, but in order to improve their chances of winning, the Conservatives will have to actually address social problems that people are unhappy about, the same things people were unhappy about when they voted for Brexit, otherwise the Conservatives will be seen as the party to take the blame.

Up till now, the Conservatives have been relying not on their track record but on being able to make these arguments:
- We are the ones to be trusted on the economy
- We bring strength and stability
- We can be trusted on Brexit and immigration

Any sense of chaos in the Brexit negotiations and economic trouble ahead will discredit those points and they will face the situation Major did after Black Wednesday in 1992.
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Labour will have no power for any vote unless there is Tory support for the labour position on that vote.


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As an Opposition party of the unscrupulous variety (the Tories gave them the benefit of doubt over Iraq), they will oppose even if just for the sake of it. The Tory proposed policy of stopping Lord Sugar's winter fuel benefit/electoral bribe and Labour's fierce opposition to it are such a vivid demonstration of that... For the many and not the few, what a load of cobblers.

That is what you can expect from them, opposition for the sake of opposition whether that is the best for the country or not. Anything that will contribute to knocking their opposition and ease their path to power, that is their strand of politics. Linking May with the dead the way they did really was below the belt...
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Labour have no power and will continue to lose elections as long as the tory party keep their core voters happy (middle class, old people) and Corbyn is in power with his joke of a cabinet (abbott, thornberry etc).

I'm surprised Labour kept Corbyn after the election, which he lost. The conservatives had a terrible campaign (attacking the old, PM not showing up to debates etc) and YET labour couldn't win. Once the conservatives get into stride, clear brexit and get the economy sorted (lowering inflation etc) they will have another 10 years incharge.
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I'm surprised Labour kept Corbyn after the election, which he lost.
Surprised at what, his victory was to consolidate his standing as party leader. How can the MPs now say he is a failure and that Labour need a new leader, who has the power to remove him and sideline Momentum? You can see it here, imagine the furore if anyone tried to do that.

He looked like a dead horse, came from round the bend , nearly caught up with the fading leader of the race and ended up with a strong finish. Second indeed but the punters fancy him for another race, they will back him again on current form.
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Surprised at what, his victory was to consolidate his standing as party leader. How can the MPs now say he is a failure and that Labour need a new leader, who has the power to remove him and sideline Momentum? You can see it here, imagine the furore if anyone tried to do that.
He still lost the election. If they did another election, he would most likely lose again.
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(Original post by jiggly_puff)
I'm surprised Labour kept Corbyn after the election, which he lost. The conservatives had a terrible campaign (attacking the old, PM not showing up to debates etc) and YET labour couldn't win. Once the conservatives get into stride, clear brexit and get the economy sorted (lowering inflation etc) they will have another 10 years incharge.
Of course he lost, the election was called precisely because their position in the polls was so low and the Conservatives could smell an opportunity to crush them. He couldn't have won outright in those circumstances. Instead they increased their vote share and number of MPs against all expectations, and robbed the Conservatives of their majority. There is absolutely no reason for Corbyn to resign.
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The issue that people have with Corbyn who want to see a Labour government is simply that May ran a very bad campaign and even then under Corbyn they didn't get a majority. The other worrying thing (for labour supporters) is that the Conservative share of the vote went up so more of the electorate support them, it just went up in the wrong places.

This was a very good opportunity to get a Labour government into power and if another more moderate Labour MP had run instead of Corbyn we may have seen an even better swing towards Labour.
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The establishment will not let Corbyn by PM. Theresa May misjudged the electorate as she assumed that Labour under Corbyn would be knocked flat and the Conservatives romp home with a landslide victory but it wasn't the case. This time the establishment will declare WAR against Corbyn.
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The establishment will not let Corbyn by PM. Theresa May misjudged the electorate as she assumed that Labour under Corbyn would be knocked flat and the Conservatives romp home with a landslide victory but it wasn't the case. This time the establishment will declare WAR against Corbyn.
No they won't.

Next time they will write a manifesto that actively wins votes instead of promising nothing to regular people and taking people's homes to pay for care costs.


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