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Good evening everyone! 
I'm just hoping to get some opinions on a weird situation I've just come across regarding my boyfriend (who I live with) and his father. I'll try to keep it short, but if you've read any of my other OPs, I usually end up writing an essay, so apologies in advance.
Background information: His father gives him money for half the rent. His mother also pays half the rent (they're divorced).
We are severely poor, nevertheless. We spend about 100 quid a month on food after bills; food + bills = more money than we have or will have this year, even though we have two student loans and my partner gets his share of the rent paid. We can't go out, can't have even slightly nice food (I'm chronically ill and am badly affected by a poor diet), can't buy clothes (I'm wearing the badly-fitting, not to mention unfashionable, stuff I've had for four years) and my partner is walking around in second hand boots, one of which has a split sole and is consequently always soaking. We can't even afford to have the heating on. Even our goldfish are shortly going to be in trouble because we don't have five quid for a new bottle of dechlorinator so the water doesn't make them ill. I can't work and my partner is basically living in the library as his entire future depends on him dragging up his marks two grades by the end of the year, so he can't work and get the grades. We're living like this because we will happily sacrifice whatever to make sure he has the best chance of achieving his dream, which is currently Honours History. Our circumstances, though, are slightly dire.
Still, this isn't a sob story (regardless of appearances!), we're trying to stay positive and treat it as one of those hard patches that makes the times when you can afford things even more fun (plus we're learning how to budget). It's not that bad, we have a place to live and we can afford to eat almost every day.
Today, though, my partner mentioned that he really needed a book for his course. Naturally we can't afford it, big surprise, so I said (given that my mum bought me two course books when I told her I was broke and could use them) why didn't he ask his family. We came up with asking his mum for money for shoes and his dad for the book. He doesn't seem too worried about asking his mum for boot-money, even though it's more, but he is terrified of asking his dad for anything because he's afraid he'll get laughed at - not just refused but actually get the piss taken out of him by his father. I think this makes his dad the sort of person I can't describe without TSR changing most of the words to ****...am I overreacting? I know his dad has no moral obligation and frankly, if the guy said no, I'd be fine with it. It's just the idea that his son is too scared to ask him for twenty goddamn pounds because his dad'll be nasty and, to be frank, a total bastard about it - that's what really pisses me off.
Incidentally, this isn't helped by the fact that his dad and stepmum basically stole 300 quid from him last year. My partner and I moved in together (long story) having discussed it with his parents, he couldn't get out of the halls contract he was on so his parents carried on paying for that and he took out a loan to pay for the rent for the place we're in now. At the end of last year, his dad turns around and says because he was paying for an empty room, we've screwed him over and therefore he took some money out of what my partner can have this year. This is balls; if we hadn't told them we'd moved they'd never have known, the cost was the same and we never asked them for anything extra. This incident hasn't helped my opinion of the guy.
Okay, rant over, I promise...sorry to have gone on, I'm just so pissed off!
All comments or suggestions gratefully received. Thank you!
I'm just hoping to get some opinions on a weird situation I've just come across regarding my boyfriend (who I live with) and his father. I'll try to keep it short, but if you've read any of my other OPs, I usually end up writing an essay, so apologies in advance.
Background information: His father gives him money for half the rent. His mother also pays half the rent (they're divorced).
We are severely poor, nevertheless. We spend about 100 quid a month on food after bills; food + bills = more money than we have or will have this year, even though we have two student loans and my partner gets his share of the rent paid. We can't go out, can't have even slightly nice food (I'm chronically ill and am badly affected by a poor diet), can't buy clothes (I'm wearing the badly-fitting, not to mention unfashionable, stuff I've had for four years) and my partner is walking around in second hand boots, one of which has a split sole and is consequently always soaking. We can't even afford to have the heating on. Even our goldfish are shortly going to be in trouble because we don't have five quid for a new bottle of dechlorinator so the water doesn't make them ill. I can't work and my partner is basically living in the library as his entire future depends on him dragging up his marks two grades by the end of the year, so he can't work and get the grades. We're living like this because we will happily sacrifice whatever to make sure he has the best chance of achieving his dream, which is currently Honours History. Our circumstances, though, are slightly dire.
Still, this isn't a sob story (regardless of appearances!), we're trying to stay positive and treat it as one of those hard patches that makes the times when you can afford things even more fun (plus we're learning how to budget). It's not that bad, we have a place to live and we can afford to eat almost every day.
Today, though, my partner mentioned that he really needed a book for his course. Naturally we can't afford it, big surprise, so I said (given that my mum bought me two course books when I told her I was broke and could use them) why didn't he ask his family. We came up with asking his mum for money for shoes and his dad for the book. He doesn't seem too worried about asking his mum for boot-money, even though it's more, but he is terrified of asking his dad for anything because he's afraid he'll get laughed at - not just refused but actually get the piss taken out of him by his father. I think this makes his dad the sort of person I can't describe without TSR changing most of the words to ****...am I overreacting? I know his dad has no moral obligation and frankly, if the guy said no, I'd be fine with it. It's just the idea that his son is too scared to ask him for twenty goddamn pounds because his dad'll be nasty and, to be frank, a total bastard about it - that's what really pisses me off.
Incidentally, this isn't helped by the fact that his dad and stepmum basically stole 300 quid from him last year. My partner and I moved in together (long story) having discussed it with his parents, he couldn't get out of the halls contract he was on so his parents carried on paying for that and he took out a loan to pay for the rent for the place we're in now. At the end of last year, his dad turns around and says because he was paying for an empty room, we've screwed him over and therefore he took some money out of what my partner can have this year. This is balls; if we hadn't told them we'd moved they'd never have known, the cost was the same and we never asked them for anything extra. This incident hasn't helped my opinion of the guy.
Okay, rant over, I promise...sorry to have gone on, I'm just so pissed off!
All comments or suggestions gratefully received. Thank you!
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Reply 1
what book is he after? and how much is it?
Reply 2
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Errr, I don't know the name but it's about 17 quid or something...why? 
Reply 3
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Phantom Phoenix
Good evening everyone!
I'm just hoping to get some opinions on a weird situation I've just come across regarding my boyfriend (who I live with) and his father. I'll try to keep it short, but if you've read any of my other OPs, I usually end up writing an essay, so apologies in advance.
Background information: His father gives him money for half the rent. His mother also pays half the rent (they're divorced).
We are severely poor, nevertheless. We spend about 100 quid a month on food after bills; food + bills = more money than we have or will have this year, even though we have two student loans and my partner gets his share of the rent paid. We can't go out, can't have even slightly nice food (I'm chronically ill and am badly affected by a poor diet), can't buy clothes (I'm wearing the badly-fitting, not to mention unfashionable, stuff I've had for four years) and my partner is walking around in second hand boots, one of which has a split sole and is consequently always soaking. We can't even afford to have the heating on. Even our goldfish are shortly going to be in trouble because we don't have five quid for a new bottle of dechlorinator so the water doesn't make them ill. I can't work and my partner is basically living in the library as his entire future depends on him dragging up his marks two grades by the end of the year, so he can't work and get the grades. We're living like this because we will happily sacrifice whatever to make sure he has the best chance of achieving his dream, which is currently Honours History. Our circumstances, though, are slightly dire.
Still, this isn't a sob story (regardless of appearances!), we're trying to stay positive and treat it as one of those hard patches that makes the times when you can afford things even more fun (plus we're learning how to budget). It's not that bad, we have a place to live and we can afford to eat almost every day.
Today, though, my partner mentioned that he really needed a book for his course. Naturally we can't afford it, big surprise, so I said (given that my mum bought me two course books when I told her I was broke and could use them) why didn't he ask his family. We came up with asking his mum for money for shoes and his dad for the book. He doesn't seem too worried about asking his mum for boot-money, even though it's more, but he is terrified of asking his dad for anything because he's afraid he'll get laughed at - not just refused but actually get the piss taken out of him by his father. I think this makes his dad the sort of person I can't describe without TSR changing most of the words to ****...am I overreacting? I know his dad has no moral obligation and frankly, if the guy said no, I'd be fine with it. It's just the idea that his son is too scared to ask him for twenty goddamn pounds because his dad'll be nasty and, to be frank, a total bastard about it - that's what really pisses me off.
Incidentally, this isn't helped by the fact that his dad and stepmum basically stole 300 quid from him last year. My partner and I moved in together (long story) having discussed it with his parents, he couldn't get out of the halls contract he was on so his parents carried on paying for that and he took out a loan to pay for the rent for the place we're in now. At the end of last year, his dad turns around and says because he was paying for an empty room, we've screwed him over and therefore he took some money out of what my partner can have this year. This is balls; if we hadn't told them we'd moved they'd never have known, the cost was the same and we never asked them for anything extra. This incident hasn't helped my opinion of the guy.
Okay, rant over, I promise...sorry to have gone on, I'm just so pissed off!
All comments or suggestions gratefully received. Thank you!
I'm just hoping to get some opinions on a weird situation I've just come across regarding my boyfriend (who I live with) and his father. I'll try to keep it short, but if you've read any of my other OPs, I usually end up writing an essay, so apologies in advance.
Background information: His father gives him money for half the rent. His mother also pays half the rent (they're divorced).
We are severely poor, nevertheless. We spend about 100 quid a month on food after bills; food + bills = more money than we have or will have this year, even though we have two student loans and my partner gets his share of the rent paid. We can't go out, can't have even slightly nice food (I'm chronically ill and am badly affected by a poor diet), can't buy clothes (I'm wearing the badly-fitting, not to mention unfashionable, stuff I've had for four years) and my partner is walking around in second hand boots, one of which has a split sole and is consequently always soaking. We can't even afford to have the heating on. Even our goldfish are shortly going to be in trouble because we don't have five quid for a new bottle of dechlorinator so the water doesn't make them ill. I can't work and my partner is basically living in the library as his entire future depends on him dragging up his marks two grades by the end of the year, so he can't work and get the grades. We're living like this because we will happily sacrifice whatever to make sure he has the best chance of achieving his dream, which is currently Honours History. Our circumstances, though, are slightly dire.
Still, this isn't a sob story (regardless of appearances!), we're trying to stay positive and treat it as one of those hard patches that makes the times when you can afford things even more fun (plus we're learning how to budget). It's not that bad, we have a place to live and we can afford to eat almost every day.
Today, though, my partner mentioned that he really needed a book for his course. Naturally we can't afford it, big surprise, so I said (given that my mum bought me two course books when I told her I was broke and could use them) why didn't he ask his family. We came up with asking his mum for money for shoes and his dad for the book. He doesn't seem too worried about asking his mum for boot-money, even though it's more, but he is terrified of asking his dad for anything because he's afraid he'll get laughed at - not just refused but actually get the piss taken out of him by his father. I think this makes his dad the sort of person I can't describe without TSR changing most of the words to ****...am I overreacting? I know his dad has no moral obligation and frankly, if the guy said no, I'd be fine with it. It's just the idea that his son is too scared to ask him for twenty goddamn pounds because his dad'll be nasty and, to be frank, a total bastard about it - that's what really pisses me off.
Incidentally, this isn't helped by the fact that his dad and stepmum basically stole 300 quid from him last year. My partner and I moved in together (long story) having discussed it with his parents, he couldn't get out of the halls contract he was on so his parents carried on paying for that and he took out a loan to pay for the rent for the place we're in now. At the end of last year, his dad turns around and says because he was paying for an empty room, we've screwed him over and therefore he took some money out of what my partner can have this year. This is balls; if we hadn't told them we'd moved they'd never have known, the cost was the same and we never asked them for anything extra. This incident hasn't helped my opinion of the guy.
Okay, rant over, I promise...sorry to have gone on, I'm just so pissed off!
All comments or suggestions gratefully received. Thank you!
Umm, arn't gig tickets fairly pricey?
Reply 4
Phantom Phoenix
Errr, I don't know the name but it's about 17 quid or something...why?
EDIT: gig prices, good point
Reply 5
Firstly, I think that the issue of the "stolen" £300 is slightly misleading. Sure, maybe it was a bit mean of his father to penalise your boyfriend for merely moving out of halls accommodation but at the same time, he hasn't asked your boyfriend to repay any of this money and has simply limited the amount of money he is GIFTING your boyfriend this year. A lot of people recieve no help at all with their rent and whilst the circumstances by which some of the help he has offered has been withdrawn might aggrieve you, the old phrase "you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth" comes to mind.
Secondly, yes it is bad that your boyfriend doesn't feel that he can approach his father for the money for the book but I think that as he hasn't actually approached him yet, let alone been laughed at, we can't condemn his father for something he hasn't actually done. Is your boyfriend adamant that his father will react in this way or is it simply he is reluctant to ask just in case this happens? Asking people for help is always a difficult thing to do and sometimes pride can stand in the way of reaching out as we fear that people will react badly when in fact they are only to eager to help.
I sympathise with your situation and I understand why you are frustrated but all I would say is that you should be sure that you aren't directing your anger towards the most obvious and easy target.
Secondly, yes it is bad that your boyfriend doesn't feel that he can approach his father for the money for the book but I think that as he hasn't actually approached him yet, let alone been laughed at, we can't condemn his father for something he hasn't actually done. Is your boyfriend adamant that his father will react in this way or is it simply he is reluctant to ask just in case this happens? Asking people for help is always a difficult thing to do and sometimes pride can stand in the way of reaching out as we fear that people will react badly when in fact they are only to eager to help.
I sympathise with your situation and I understand why you are frustrated but all I would say is that you should be sure that you aren't directing your anger towards the most obvious and easy target.
Reply 6
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minimo
Umm, arn't gig tickets fairly pricey?
Paid for all of them last year when we HAD money *sigh* We didn't see this coming.
Reply 7
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Phantom Phoenix
Paid for all of them last year when we HAD money *sigh* We didn't see this coming.
sell tickets on eBay?
Reply 8
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envious
Firstly, I think that the issue of the "stolen" £300 is slightly misleading. Sure, maybe it was a bit mean of his father to penalise your boyfriend for merely moving out of halls accommodation but at the same time, he hasn't asked your boyfriend to repay any of this money and has simply limited the amount of money he is GIFTING your boyfriend this year. A lot of people recieve no help at all with their rent and whilst the circumstances by which some of the help he has offered has been withdrawn might aggrieve you, the old phrase "you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth" comes to mind.
Secondly, yes it is bad that your boyfriend doesn't feel that he can approach his father for the money for the book but I think that as he hasn't actually approached him yet, let alone been laughed at, we can't condemn his father for something he hasn't actually done. Is your boyfriend adamant that his father will react in this way or is it simply he is reluctant to ask just in case this happens? Asking people for help is always a difficult thing to do and sometimes pride can stand in the way of reaching out as we fear that people will react badly when in fact they are only to eager to help.
I sympathise with your situation and I understand why you are frustrated but all I would say is that you should be sure that you aren't directing your anger towards the most obvious and easy target.
Secondly, yes it is bad that your boyfriend doesn't feel that he can approach his father for the money for the book but I think that as he hasn't actually approached him yet, let alone been laughed at, we can't condemn his father for something he hasn't actually done. Is your boyfriend adamant that his father will react in this way or is it simply he is reluctant to ask just in case this happens? Asking people for help is always a difficult thing to do and sometimes pride can stand in the way of reaching out as we fear that people will react badly when in fact they are only to eager to help.
I sympathise with your situation and I understand why you are frustrated but all I would say is that you should be sure that you aren't directing your anger towards the most obvious and easy target.
Both reasonable points, I think, although there are a couple of things - regarding the 300 quid, we were more annoyed at the fact that he got his wife to send us basically a contract saying what my partner would get and then invented a reason to take some of it back, as well as sending something my boyfriend describes as "more of a letter of demand from a bank than something your dad would send you". My partner does appreciate the money he gets, it just seemed really unfair to promise something and then, nine months on, suddenly decide to make up a reason to take it back (we even said at the time that if he'd just said he wanted the money for something we'd have been okay with it, it was the manner in which he demanded it).
Also, his dad has taken the piss on more than one occasion before, it's not just an assumption.
Thanks for the sensible viewpoint though!
(Incidentally, before anyone asks why we didn't see the lack of money coming, I was working until I became too ill unexpectedly so we had plenty of money for quite a while. We've been living off savings since.)
Reply 9
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minimo
sell tickets on eBay?
We're considering it but trying not to unless we have to, as we have two evenings out for the foreseeable future (as in, for at least the next eight months or so). It's hard to give that up unless we're really, really stuck.
Reply 10
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Phantom Phoenix
We're considering it but trying not to unless we have to, as we have two evenings out for the foreseeable future (as in, for at least the next eight months or so). It's hard to give that up unless we're really, really stuck.
It seems a little silly though? How much are your tickets? You get get a meal and a trip to the cinema/clubnight as an evening out for a lot, lot less. You'd have money left over for boots and the book and some decent food. I think you've got your priorities wrong here...
Reply 11
im sure there are other places you can cut down on your spending.
as people above have said, penalising the father isnt the way forward.
if your boyfriend couldnt get out of his housing contract, then he shouldnt have left and thus, wouldn't have needed the loan.
i'm sorry but a lot of this you've brought on yourself.
i myself am at university, having no help from my parents. all the money i have, i've earnt or got from my student loan.
I am surviving on £31 a week to pay for all books, petrol, food and entertainment and i am coping.
as people above have said, penalising the father isnt the way forward.
if your boyfriend couldnt get out of his housing contract, then he shouldnt have left and thus, wouldn't have needed the loan.
i'm sorry but a lot of this you've brought on yourself.
i myself am at university, having no help from my parents. all the money i have, i've earnt or got from my student loan.
I am surviving on £31 a week to pay for all books, petrol, food and entertainment and i am coping.
Reply 12
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minimo
It seems a little silly though? How much are your tickets? You get get a meal and a trip to the cinema as an evening out for a lot, lot less. You'd have money left over for boots and the book and some decent food. I think you've got your priorities wrong here...
We'd get less than a hundred for both, assuming we could even sell them at a vaguely reasonable price as, to my knowledge, neither event is sold out. Also, we bought them a while ago and, quite frankly, these are important to us and they are the only nice things we have to look forward to in what is going to be a long year of no money at all. I'm a fresher and I've made no friends outside of lectures because I have no money to top up my phone to speak to them or even go out for a soft drink, and I don't want to sponge off anyone knowing I'll never be able to pay them back. I have no life and spend all bloody day in the library studying with my partner so we can do well and have a life. I think, with nothing whatsoever to look forward to, we'd go mad with depression. We're not even going away for Christmas....and you, heartless creature that you are, want to take away the two evenings we have to look forward to?
Mean.
Reply 13
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suicidal_dream
im sure there are other places you can cut down on your spending.
as people above have said, penalising the father isnt the way forward.
if your boyfriend couldnt get out of his housing contract, then he shouldnt have left and thus, wouldn't have needed the loan.
i'm sorry but a lot of this you've brought on yourself.
i myself am at university, having no help from my parents. all the money i have, i've earnt or got from my student loan.
I am surviving on £31 a week to pay for all books, petrol, food and entertainment and i am coping.
as people above have said, penalising the father isnt the way forward.
if your boyfriend couldnt get out of his housing contract, then he shouldnt have left and thus, wouldn't have needed the loan.
i'm sorry but a lot of this you've brought on yourself.
i myself am at university, having no help from my parents. all the money i have, i've earnt or got from my student loan.
I am surviving on £31 a week to pay for all books, petrol, food and entertainment and i am coping.
We spend 30 quid a week, for TWO of us. Don't talk to me about cutting down. Where the hell do you think we could cut anything down?
I've no idea what you're talking about with the loan. It's a student loan, he won't have to pay it back for years. It's currently irrelevant. I also don't know what you mean about penalising the father.
I also strongly question your statement that you can pay for all that for 31 pounds per week.
As for the bit in bold...wtf? Would you like to justify that? Congratulation on earning the money you're living on. I worked seventy hours a week for a year, and fifty a week for a year before that, plus working from age 14 upwards, before coming to uni. I then got ill and had to pay a lot of bills with my savings because I couldn't work. I tried working anyway after dropping out of uni and made myself incredibly sick. If I want to attend uni now then I can't work, that simple. It's extremely annoying for me, and to have you speak to me as though I'm an irresponsible teenager is, I beg your pardon, ****ing patronising.
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Reply 15
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Phantom Phoenix
We'd get less than a hundred for both, assuming we could even sell them at a vaguely reasonable price as, to my knowledge, neither event is sold out. Also, we bought them a while ago and, quite frankly, these are important to us and they are the only nice things we have to look forward to in what is going to be a long year of no money at all. I'm a fresher and I've made no friends outside of lectures because I have no money to top up my phone to speak to them or even go out for a soft drink, and I don't want to sponge off anyone knowing I'll never be able to pay them back. I have no life and spend all bloody day in the library studying with my partner so we can do well and have a life. I think, with nothing whatsoever to look forward to, we'd go mad with depression. We're not even going away for Christmas....and you, heartless creature that you are, want to take away the two evenings we have to look forward to?
Mean.
Mean.
--Firstly, you can go out to pubs, get tap water and lemon, tis free. Tell your mates you're on meds so can't drink alcohol and hate soft drinks.
--Secondly, I'm not spoiling your fun, I'm suggesting cheaper alternatives for a night out with money left over for Primark shopping. You sound like you're pretty ill. If anything a gig will make you feel more tired. I'd happily go for a nice meal with my partner, cinema and dessert
when I got back home instead of listening to some idiot with long hair screa, from a stage.--You can always chat to friends via MSN. I rarely call people and only text if I need to get in touch ASAP.
--eBay is full of idiots who'll pay loads for gig tickets.
You're situation is quite bad. But I do think your bf needs to stop acting all macho and tell his parents he needs money. Plead with them if need be.
Reply 16
Not sure how anyone can survive on £31 a week with today's fuel prices, unless suicidal dream doesn't fill her tank up all the way. Because it costs more than £31 these days to fill up all the way.
Reply 17
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minimo
--Firstly, you can go out to pubs, get tap water and lemon, tis free. Tell your mates you're on meds so can't drink alcohol and hate soft drinks.
--Secondly, I'm not spoiling your fun, I'm suggesting cheaper alternatives for a night out with money left over for Primark shopping.
--You can always chat to friends via MSN.
--eBay is full of idiots who'll pay loads for gig tickets.
You're situation is quite bad. But I do think your bf needs to stop acting all macho and tell his parents he needs money. Plead with them if need be.
--Secondly, I'm not spoiling your fun, I'm suggesting cheaper alternatives for a night out with money left over for Primark shopping.
--You can always chat to friends via MSN.
--eBay is full of idiots who'll pay loads for gig tickets.
You're situation is quite bad. But I do think your bf needs to stop acting all macho and tell his parents he needs money. Plead with them if need be.
First, thank you, I didn't know that, but see point 3.
Second, I was joking about the "mean"
Also, I can't buy new clothes because I'm currently losing weight. I have to wear badly-fitting clothes because I can't buy new ones and wear them for a month or two then buy new ones.Third, I'm at the library working all the time. When I'm at home, I'm sleeping. I'm not well, I work and I sleep. That's it. I don't have friends apart from in lectures because I'm not capable of maintaining a social life. I got ten quid from my mum because she sold something of mine last month, used it to go to a society meeting, sat and listened to a speaker, went home, got eight hours sleep and was subsequently very unwell for ten days.
Fourth, I understand that we could sell the tickets on, and we are thinking about it, but we'd rather not if we can help it. We've looked forward to these two things for a long time and it'd be miserable to give them up. We give them up, our lives become work, sleep, occasionally watch half an hour of TV. We need something, we paid for this when we had plenty money (not when we were broke), it doesn't seem terribly unfair that we get to go to them.
Finally, the whole point of the thread was my annoyance that the way my partner's dad treats him has made him unhappy about asking for 20 quid from his dad because he doesn't want to be ridiculed. Not macho. I think the thread's sort of sidetracked; we are actually managing on what we have for the most part so money's not an immense worry, just when the odd thing comes up.
Reply 18
Rock Fan
Not sure how anyone can survive on £31 a week with today's fuel prices, unless suicidal dream doesn't fill her tank up all the way. Because it costs more than £31 these days to fill up all the way.
Surely that depends. If I tried to put £31 in my car (a Daewoo Matiz), petrol would be pouring down the side of it. It only costs about £25 to fill it. Plus suicidal dream might not use a full tank every week..
And OP, minimo isn't "trying to take away your fun", she's just suggesting a reasonable way to get a bit more cash. And she's right - for the amount you've spent on those tickets, you could have a lot more nights out. You could even go clubbing but not buy drinks - just pay to get in the club (a couple of quid each!). If the gigs are what you really want, and you're looking forward to them, then that's fine, you should keep the tickets because you obviously really want to go. But don't blame minimo just because she gave you some (sensible) suggestions!!
And your boyfriend should just ask his dad for the money. It's a shame that he's afraid his dad will laugh at him, but he needs this money, so it looks to me like he's going to have to go through that
All you can do is be supportive.Also, just wanted to say - am sorry about your situation. It doesn't sound fun at all
It's nice that you and your boyfriend are sticking together through the hard times though, it must be a solid relationship Reply 19
This level of poverty seems a little unlikely. Like a Roald Dahl book.
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