Oxford's E&M tops the subject earnings table! Birkbeck's Economics is 4th. Watch

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Data from the government's Longitudinal Education Outcomes (LEO) project has just been released and now enables us to see long-term graduate outcomes by subject and by university.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...-by-university

One key measure (amongst many!) is the typical earnings for graduates after 5 years.

Here's the Top 10 subjects/universities for graduate earnings*:

1. Oxford : Business (E&M) : £71,700
2. Oxford : Law : £61,400
3. Cambridge : Economics : £61,000
4. Birkbeck : Economics : £60,200
5. LSE : Economics : £55,200
6. Cambridge : Law : £54,700
7. Warwick : Economics : £52,000
8. Imperial : CompSci : £51,800
9. Cambridge : CompSci : £51,300
10= Bath : Economics : £51,200
10= Oxford : Economics (PPE) : £51,200

*Ranked by median graduate PAYE earnings measured 5 years after completing the course.

Oxford and Cambridge both have 3 courses in the Top 10. Birkbeck makes a strong appearance, knocking LSE into 5th place.

I'll be including some more LEO analysis in this thread shortly

In the meantime the guys at Wonkhe are doing a great job of presenting the data:
http://wonkhe.com/blogs/live-longitu...data-released/
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The fact Birkbeck and Bath is on the list surprises me (especially Birkbeck) as Birkbeck and Bath are both the only non-russel groups which reach the top 10 threshold + Birkbeck isn't as well known as most universities so it's very interesting to see that it actually appears on the list.
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Do most of these guys go into like investing banking? Maybe law too.
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It's worth looking at the "no sustained destination " percentages too. The earnings are only those graduates in PAYE employment. For some of these subjects/universities the numbers unemployed are surprisingly high.
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It's worth looking at the "no sustained destination " percentages too. The earnings are only those graduates in PAYE employment. For some of these subjects/universities the numbers unemployed are surprisingly high.
Yes and the data also excludes non PAYE earners - eg grads who leave the UK and work abroad.

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The latest data from the government's LEO project has just been released and now enables us to see typical graduate earnings* by subject and by university.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...-by-university

The Top 10 subject/universities for graduate earnings* are:

1. Oxford : Business (E&M) : £71,700
2. Oxford : Law : £61,400
3. Cambridge : Economics : £61,000
4. Birkbeck : Economics : £60,200
5. LSE : Economics : £55,200
6. Cambridge : Law : £54,700
7. Warwick : Economics : £52,000
8. Imperial : CompSci : £51,800
9. Cambridge : CompSci : £51,300
10= Bath : Economics : £51,200
10= Oxford : Economics : £51,200

*Ranked by median graduate earnings measured 5 years after completing the course.

Oxford and Cambridge both have 3 courses in the Top 10. Birkbeck makes a strong appearance, knocking LSE into 5th place.

I'll be including some more LEO analysis in this thread shortly

In the meantime the guys at Wonkhe have done a great job:
http://wonkhe.com/blogs/live-longitu...data-released/
The Oxford Law premium is interesting. I wonder whether that's because of highly-paying American firms showing a preference for Oxford graduates?
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The Oxford Law premium is interesting. I wonder whether that's because of highly-paying American firms showing a preference for Oxford graduates?
Law earnings chart (via Wonkhe)

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(Gah! sorry about attachment problems. Go to http://wonkhe.com/blogs/live-longitu...guages-and-law )
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Subject rankings are particularly interesting.

Top Engineering salaries were at Scottish universities, almost certainly due to Oil&Gas.

1. Aberdeen
2. Robert Gordon University
3. Oxford
4. University of Highlands and Islands
5. Cambridge
6. Bournemouth
7. Imperial
8. Leicester
9. Open University
10. Bath

(Chart via Wonkhe)

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(Original post by squirrology)
The fact Birkbeck and Bath is on the list surprises me (especially Birkbeck) as Birkbeck and Bath are both the only non-russel groups which reach the top 10 threshold + Birkbeck isn't as well known as most universities so it's very interesting to see that it actually appears on the list.
I'm a uni applicant for this last cycle (2017 entry) and I thought Birkbeck was some American college before this thread
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(Original post by SteamboatMickey)
I'm a uni applicant for this last cycle (2017 entry) and I thought Birkbeck was some American college before this thread
:erm: wowww

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(Original post by SteamboatMickey)
I'm a uni applicant for this last cycle (2017 entry) and I thought Birkbeck was some American college before this thread
It's part of UoL and specialises in part-time/evening learning.

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I'm a uni applicant for this last cycle (2017 entry) and I thought Birkbeck was some American college before this thread
Really??? :lol:
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What's "Oxford: Economics"? Oxford only offers E&M or PPE at undergrad. Are they referring to PPE? It specifically says this is undergraduate courses.
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What's "Oxford: Economics"? Oxford only offers E&M or PPE at undergrad. Are they referring to PPE? It specifically says this is undergraduate courses.
It's PPE. E&M is in the Business subject category.
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Loads of uncertainty in the numbers and I'm sure its nowhere near statistically significant but still: Interesting that psychology is the second highest group in sustained employment (above even medicine) whereas economics and computer science are 3rd and 4th lowest.
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Loads of uncertainty in the numbers and I'm sure its nowhere near statistically significant but still: Interesting that psychology is the second highest group in sustained employment (above even medicine) whereas economics and computer science are 3rd and 4th lowest.
After 5 years?

And yes it's certainly worth keeping in mind this is "experimental" data. A key problem also is the course classifications aren't properly standardised yet.

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It's hardly surprising re:Birkbeck. Most of the graduates are not going to be regular undergrads. They're likely to be much older, have a decade or two experience, and already in a job on reasonable pay, so there's no reason to assume they'd be leaving on less.
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(Original post by Doonesbury)
Law earnings chart (via Wonkhe)

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(Gah! sorry about attachment problems. Go to http://wonkhe.com/blogs/live-longitu...guages-and-law )
Interesting, cheers ^^
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It's hardly surprising re:Birkbeck. Most of the graduates are not going to be regular undergrads. They're likely to be much older, have a decade or two experience, and already in a job on reasonable pay, so there's no reason to assume they'd be leaving on less.
It's also earnings from only 10 graduates.
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It's also earnings from only 10 graduates.
Lol.

"Does anyone here in this lecture theatre already have a good job? You work for HMRC? You're an actuary? Couple of middle managers.....great. Do you mind filling out these survey forms please?"
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