Muslims awake for Ramadan 'saved lives' in London fire

What does their faith have to do with it, I don't get why media outlets always feel the need to include it.

It's a Sikh temple!

Oh, the shower of utter shite that is The Independent. They'll probably have a listicle of 'Ten Temples you Have to Visit!' (sponsored content by God)

The article I see mentions "Mosques, churches and temples open doors", not sure if it got edited. Can't see source article but I've read Al-Manaar mosque has opened it's doors a long with St Clements Church and the Sikh Temple in the picture (not an exhaustive list).

I thought I'd chime in.

Them helping out indeed was not to do with religion (directly speaking) - while them being awake may have been to do with Ramadan. Of course, that doesn't mean others weren't awake and that others did not also help.

The question then arises is, why did they bring religion or Muslims to the article? Well it's quite simple, while many of you guys are quite normal rational people, there are a lot of people who have unjustified hate against all Muslims without discrimination. All this article attempts to do is put Muslims in a positive light (especially after all the recent atrocities), to try negate that poor image of Muslims a bit, even if a tiny bit, get that "they can't integrate with society, they hate us all" image that some people unfortunately have. In a nut shell, it humanises Muslims.

"Muslims played a big part in getting a lot of people out." - but it doesn't mean others didn't.

"Most of the people I could see were Muslim. They have also been providing food and clothes." - but again, it is not to take away from non-Muslims who probably did it as well.

It is similar to how there are similar types of stories to try bog down on racism (where you'd see both black and white people helping each other in times of need) or even collaboration between Muslims and Jews (in a time where there is a lot of anti-semitism). Of course "Muslims" aren't a race and this isn't tackling racism, but it is trying to tackle a discrimination none the less. There are countless hate crimes committed against innocent Muslims unfortunately.

That is all and I think you guys all know that already, but perhaps just disagree with it - maybe you see it as people downplaying terrorism. No harm done people, carry on .

That's great news, then. These poor people are going to need all the help they can get.

Look at all the atheists here who can't stand the fact Muslims helped. It pains them to see positive news about Muslims.
The jealously is unreal
Good on the Muslims, hope everyone a swift recovery.

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And then helping save people`s lives?

Not to say that non muslims wouldnt have helped if they were awake, of course they would have, its just that because its this time of year more muslims were awake and so more lives were saved as a result

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/local-heroes-saved-lives-helped-residents-grenfell-tower-fire/

Wow

Oh for ****'s sake, do we have to bring religion into every damn thing! I couldn't give a **** about ramadan in this story - what I care about is where the hell all these people are going to be housed for the foreseeable future and how many might be dead.

Slippery slope kind of point to make. "If there were less Muslims then less atrocities and deaths would have occurred in Europe".

The question then arises is, why did they bring religion or Muslims to the article? Well it's quite simple, while many of you guys are quite normal rational people, there are a lot of people who have unjustified hate against all Muslims without discrimination. All this article attempts to do is put Muslims in a positive light (especially after all the recent atrocities), to try negate that poor image of Muslims a bit, even if a tiny bit, get that "they can't integrate with society, they hate us all" image that some people unfortunately have. In a nut shell, it humanises Muslims.

If there was no British empire or no christianty most of the worlds deaths probably wouldnt have happened.

I literally only meant to apply it to this situation in general though because i agree with the slippery slope argument and generalising, i meant that if there were 50 less muslims in the building, there would be 50 more non muslims who would have been probably asleep so more people to wake and less people awake to warn them.
i wasnt making a general point.

Incoming Islamophobes in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Not true, most deaths have been because of malaria, but yes, you've just reiterated the absurdity of your own point.



Yeah but it's a bit of a pointless thing to say given that their actions aren't really related to religion. Fires happen at night all the time and non-Muslims don't just sleep through them. Points like these actually tend to backfire on religious people, as we've seen on this thread, and some media outlets are also to blame by really clutching at straws to desperately spin a positive where there really isn't one. It would be far more useful to recognise the good where it's actually important and no doubt a lot of Muslims do do good, no one should deny that. But this nonsense is actually more damaging to Muslims in my opinion.

I'm a muslim myself, and it beautiful to see other muslim people helping... BUT anyone who was awake would help other people at a time like this? They wouldn't just go 'Nah lets go and leave everyone behind'. I just don't feel like there is a need to make a thread about it which leads to people to dispute about absolutely nothing?

Fires happen at night all the time and non-Muslims don't just sleep through them.

The whole thing is stupid.Its a misnomer because nobody ever says that all Muslims are terrorists .The media is arguing against a straw man that does not exist.Nobody is denying that lots of Muslims are good people.But most terrorists are Muslim and their actions are inspired by Islam.Thst does not mean that all Muslims are bad people.But if they are good it's because they ignore the more hateful parts of their religion.