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17 year old Muslim girl abducted and murdered outside a mosque in Virginia Watch

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    (Original post by Adnan762)
    Disgusting beyond words. One can only imagine what the poor girl's family is going through

    The problem we have is a vicious circle of hatred, i.e. acts of terorrism are being countered by other acts of terrorism and hate crimes.

    The only way we can stop it is if we enocurage communities to come together and for leaders to openly denounce hatred and reinforce the values we so proudly uphold. In other words, we need to show that hatred has no place in our world.

    And let's hope and pray for peace and resolve in our communities and no more atrocities like this or any of the terror attacks that have shaken our world in recent times.
    As of this time there is no evidence that this was a hate crime or motivated by anything political.

    Muslims can be murdered for the same reasons anybody else can. Statistically speaking, if a Muslim is a victim of a crime it is unlikely it had anything to do with their religion at all. Hate crimes are a small percentage of crimes committed overall.

    However, the news will often cite the victim's religion (if Muslim) despite there being zero evidence of religion being relevant. More controversy = more ad revenue.
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    The dude has a Mexican name
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    (Original post by Anonymοοse)
    It's not about "trying to make it out to be" a hate crime, it's about the police's complete dismissal of the very thought.

    You hit the nail on the head in your first sentence "unless anyone can prove"...yes exactly, until all facts have been established, all avenues should be explored including all possible motives for the crime....is that really such a big thing to ask of the police?
    Here's a tip. Stop reading junk like BuzzFeed and wait until the police release more info

    You're clamouring for the police to have a default position of hate crime. They aren't prejudiced like you. Let them get the information from the investigation
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    She was murdered by a 'Dreamer', ICE are investigating.
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    (Original post by orderofthelotus)
    No, Islam will not be blamed unless there is evidence for Islam being the motive.
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    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
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    (Original post by satisfactionatlast)
    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
    lol I saw one girl yesterday make a post saying she wish she could ban the religion from the UK and it's disgusting and barbaric etc.... it's sad man, I wonder if anyone of these people have actually met any muslims IRL lmao?

    Honestly I actually don't feel any anger towards people who are prejudice towards others of a certain religion/ethnicity, I just pity their ignorance... :lol:

    I've met countless muslims and they all seemed like... guess what.....

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    .....ordinary people.
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    Ive spent my entire adult life in the military and have been to afghan and Iraq.
    terrorists count for less than 1% of the Muslim community
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    (Original post by Ski288)
    Ive spent my entire adult life in the military and have been to afghan and Iraq.
    terrorists count for less than 1% of the Muslim community
    Struggling to see how that was relevant.

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    (Original post by satisfactionatlast)
    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
    You would rather have the media hide facts about the case just because it's inconvenient to your narrative?
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    (Original post by AppleB)
    This is vile. I wonder how he got radicalised.
    Hi there! What's scary is that how can muslims in general feel safe? I am also a 17 year old muslim girl and to hear of this story is making me shiver! May god spread peace and blessings upon her family!
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    (Original post by Ski288)
    Ive spent my entire adult life in the military and have been to afghan and Iraq.
    terrorists count for less than 1% of the Muslim community
    If you are going to use a figure, then people are going to ask where it came from.

    1% is still 18,000,000.

    Not sure what your post has to do with this thread?
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    (Original post by orderofthelotus)
    No, Islam will not be blamed unless there is evidence for Islam being the motive.
    (Original post by satisfactionatlast)
    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
    But there is clear evidence of Islam being the motive when these these "idiots" blow themselves up, e.g. they are known to pray regularly, fast, and attend masjid sermons, and upon committing their acts, shout "Allahu akbar".

    Calling them "some idiots who call themselves Muslims" is disingenuous and looks like an appeal to purity aka, the No True Scotsman fallacy. They are Muslims.

    Just because you don't like the version of Islam they subscribe to doesn't mean they are not Muslims.
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    (Original post by aspire.1a)
    Hi there! What's scary is that how can muslims in general feel safe? I am also a 17 year old muslim girl and to hear of this story is making me shiver! May god spread peace and blessings upon her family!
    What do you mean by "how can Muslims in general feel safe"?!
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    (Original post by LGBTvoice)
    What do you mean by "how can Muslims in general feel safe"?!
    I mean how can muslims feel safe if there are islamaphobic attacks happening?
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    (Original post by aspire.1a)
    I mean how can muslims feel safe if there are islamaphobic attacks happening?
    I don't think this is a sensible point to make. How can anyone feel safe if radical islam terrorist attacks are happening. I am openly gay, how can I feel say from homophobes when I go out. We just have to get on with this and accept that it's only a minority like this. Don't ever let this sort of thing worry you because then you're letting them win.
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    (Original post by Poetic_Innocence)
    But there is clear evidence of Islam being the motive when these these "idiots" blow themselves up, e.g. they are known to pray regularly, fast, and attend masjid sermons, and upon committing their acts, shout "Allahu akbar".

    Calling them "some idiots who call themselves Muslims" is disingenuous and looks like an appeal to purity aka, the No True Scotsman fallacy. They are Muslims.

    Just because you don't like the version of Islam they subscribe to doesn't mean they are not Muslims.
    Your very ignorant. They are muslims? R u serious? What do u say to the man who rammed his car into the muslims outside the Finsbury Park Mosque?
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    (Original post by eden3)
    I've met countless muslims and they all seemed like... guess what.....

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    .....ordinary people.

    Some have gains though.... yeahhhh....... they been blessed by Allah, AKA LAWD GAINZ
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    (Original post by satisfactionatlast)
    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
    Ridiculous claims? Yeah never mind that 30% of American Muslims believe it's fine to use violence on those who insult Islam, and over 50% want to be governed by Sharia Law which is pretty brutal.

    (Original post by Ski288)
    terrorists count for less than 1% of the Muslim community
    So there's 16 million Muslim terrorists? Yeah man that's fine.

    (Original post by aspire.1a)
    What's scary is that how can muslims in general feel safe? I am also a 17 year old muslim girl and to hear of this story is making me shiver!
    Excuse me ma'am, but when there's an attack every few weeks for the past few years by a Muslim against non-Muslims, and only 1 attack on Muslims, I'm not sure y'all have too much reason to be afraid.
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    (Original post by aspire.1a)
    Your very ignorant. They are muslims? R u serious? What do u say to the man who rammed his car into the muslims outside the Finsbury Park Mosque?
    My post: people who profess belief in Islam, and act like Muslims are Muslims.

    You: what about the man who rammed his car into Muslims outside Finsbury Park?

    What relevance has he got to do with my post? And how am I ignorant?
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    (Original post by satisfactionatlast)
    oh really? why don't you go tell the media and half of TSRians here who make ridiculous claims about Islam being a 'violent' and 'evil' religion just because some idiots who define themselves as Muslims blow themselves up and kill innocent lives.
    (Original post by Poetic_Innocence)
    But there is clear evidence of Islam being the motive when these these "idiots" blow themselves up, e.g. they are known to pray regularly, fast, and attend masjid sermons, and upon committing their acts, shout "Allahu akbar".

    Calling them "some idiots who call themselves Muslims" is disingenuous and looks like an appeal to purity aka, the No True Scotsman fallacy. They are Muslims.

    Just because you don't like the version of Islam they subscribe to doesn't mean they are not Muslims.
    And there's your answer.

    I defend Muslims when I see fit, despite the fact they often attack me for leaving the religion. So you can miss me with this bull.
 
 
 
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