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OASC Debrief Reports
Hi
I am wondering what other people got on their OASC debrief reports in terms of the numbers in the boxes. On the Interview Report I got pretty much straight 6’s and on the Exercise Phase Report I got a mix of 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. I think my overall score was 2 and needless to say I was not selected for Officer Training.
So therefore I was wondering what kind of scores you need to be getting in order to be selected. Feedback from those that have been successful would be most appreciated.
Regards
DaveL
I am wondering what other people got on their OASC debrief reports in terms of the numbers in the boxes. On the Interview Report I got pretty much straight 6’s and on the Exercise Phase Report I got a mix of 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. I think my overall score was 2 and needless to say I was not selected for Officer Training.
So therefore I was wondering what kind of scores you need to be getting in order to be selected. Feedback from those that have been successful would be most appreciated.
Regards
DaveL
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DaveL
Hi
I am wondering what other people got on their OASC debrief reports in terms of the numbers in the boxes. On the Interview Report I got pretty much straight 6’s and on the Exercise Phase Report I got a mix of 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. I think my overall score was 2 and needless to say I was not selected for Officer Training.
So therefore I was wondering what kind of scores you need to be getting in order to be selected. Feedback from those that have been successful would be most appreciated.
Regards
DaveL
I am wondering what other people got on their OASC debrief reports in terms of the numbers in the boxes. On the Interview Report I got pretty much straight 6’s and on the Exercise Phase Report I got a mix of 1’s, 2’s and 3’s. I think my overall score was 2 and needless to say I was not selected for Officer Training.
So therefore I was wondering what kind of scores you need to be getting in order to be selected. Feedback from those that have been successful would be most appreciated.
Regards
DaveL
Is a 1 or a 6 good?
Reply 2
When I got my report it was just the paragraph detailing my time at OASC and the word accept underneath. No numbers at all.
Reply 4
DaveL
OP
I think the higher the number the better.
My debreif report consisted of 3 pages, Board Presidents Report (mine said reject on it), Interview Report (with numbers on), and Exercise Phase Report (with numbers on).
May be if you are accepted you don't get the two with the marks/numbers on as there is no need as you have been accepted.
Regards
DaveL
My debreif report consisted of 3 pages, Board Presidents Report (mine said reject on it), Interview Report (with numbers on), and Exercise Phase Report (with numbers on).
May be if you are accepted you don't get the two with the marks/numbers on as there is no need as you have been accepted.
Regards
DaveL
Reply 6
Theo1977
I haven't got numbers either - I'm assuming we get those at the AFCO debrief? (Where I am supposed to be RIGHT NOW ... but they've lost my file!)
I didn't even get invited to the afco for a debrief. The corporal who I had been dealing with the whole time just rang to see if I was happy and that was it. I'm a bit disappointed now because I'm intrigued to see what my actual scores are.
Reply 8
Used to go as high as 7 or 8 IIRC. Higher the better. 3 or under normally means sift. 3+ normally is a yes. I can tell you how it's all worked out if you want?
Reply 10
Yes, will catch you later on MSN?? I'm just about to walk the dog before it get too dark. Will finish my post upon my return. x
The pattern that seems pretty consistent in the feedback from these boards is that if you are successful, you don't get any feedback. In fact, all your OASC paperwork makes up the opening inserts on your personal record, so when you retire you can ask for a copy of your Service Record and see them then! You can of course, ask for them under the Data Protection Act, at any point. They do however seem to offer feedback to near misses - which makes sense if you think about it. Who cares how you did once you have passed and are moving onto the next stage, but let's help returners actually improve their performance.
As to the scores, the highest score is given for a performance that equates to that which would be expected of a junior officer on graduation from IOT - ie bl**dy good. The lowest score (1 or 0) is as bad as it can get ie useless, no positive features, incompatible with military service etc.
Over the years, the scoring range has changed, in my day it was out of 5 with much use of plusses and minuses.
One thing that may surprise/confuse people is the mean scoring or the acceptance rate. Depending on the quality of candidates and the number of places available, the pass mark is likely to be at about 2+/3, at least for sifting. 3+ will probably get you an immediate offer. How come you might ask, when the RAF prides itself on setting such high standards? Well because they have a basically dismal view of civilians, and great confidence in their own training system, so they believe that they can convert a 'mere' 2+ civilian, into a top scoring junior officer by the end of IOT.
As to the scores, the highest score is given for a performance that equates to that which would be expected of a junior officer on graduation from IOT - ie bl**dy good. The lowest score (1 or 0) is as bad as it can get ie useless, no positive features, incompatible with military service etc.
Over the years, the scoring range has changed, in my day it was out of 5 with much use of plusses and minuses.
One thing that may surprise/confuse people is the mean scoring or the acceptance rate. Depending on the quality of candidates and the number of places available, the pass mark is likely to be at about 2+/3, at least for sifting. 3+ will probably get you an immediate offer. How come you might ask, when the RAF prides itself on setting such high standards? Well because they have a basically dismal view of civilians, and great confidence in their own training system, so they believe that they can convert a 'mere' 2+ civilian, into a top scoring junior officer by the end of IOT.
Reply 14
hi, could anyone explain what "sifting" is please? i'm guessing it is the border between pass/fail. any info would be much appreciated. cheers
Reply 15
Yes it is. Your report i carried over for the next month or so then a decision is made and you are accepted or binned. Gp Cp OASC makes the decision in the sift.
paul.ne63
hi, could anyone explain what "sifting" is please? i'm guessing it is the border between pass/fail. any info would be much appreciated. cheers
It's a way to smooth out the random differences between OASC boards. If OASC operated like a complete sausage machine, and used a methodology that it had (completely made up figures for example's sake) 40 weeks and 400 places, so it took the best 10 candidates per week. Then in a randomly bad week it would take candidates that were much worse than the following week where randomly excellent candidates turned up.
So it sifts.
It says yes/no straight away to the very strong/very weak candidates and then it hedges its bets with the middling ones. It doesn't mean anything to the candidates in terms of their chances, it just prolongs the wait, and it's better than an immediate no. But it enables the RAF to smooth out the vagaries of different boards and select the best candidates over a whole month rather than just one board.
Reply 17
Well put! Much better than my garbled explanation :P
Reply 18
threeportdrift
As to the scores, the highest score is given for a performance that equates to that which would be expected of a junior officer on graduation from IOT - ie bl**dy good. The lowest score (1 or 0) is as bad as it can get ie useless, no positive features, incompatible with military service etc.
That rings a bell with something that was written in my Board Report, which surprised the hell out of me when I read it...
"He progressed smoothly through the OASC interview and began the Exercise Phase in a positive manner. Throughout the Exercise Phase, (MRFLIBBLE) projected the persona of an almost ready-made product of IOT. He communicated well with his team and his manner greatly embellished his influence over the syndicate.
Was a little shocked, especially since I didnt finish my leadership exercise...!
Reply 19
Yeh it's not about finishing them though. There is one that is near on impossible to complete but they all do have a solution.
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