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Reply 1
Looking at the pictures the contrast is startling!

Okay they end up in court but why o why print them!

This whole head scarf thing has been blown out of proportion in my view, this might not have happened or been reported (if it did happen) a few years back - only after Jack Straw makes a teensy comment is it noticed by so many and then all of a sudden they think "Oh no, i can't intergarte with this person they have a scarf in there head!"
Reply 2
What do you mean? Intergration isn't the issue here, it's the fact that it's completely inappropriate for the job this woman applied for and anyone with a half a brain could see that.
Reply 3
Completely inappropriate? You mean she shouldnt apply for the job because she wears a headscarf?
I didnt realise a headscarf impedes someone from cutting someone elses hair...
You can easily just put up pictures of models and whatnot with 'amazing' hair to create an 'image'.
In fact im not sure what image the owner is trying to give off...(judging from that bad picture :p:)
Reply 4
I was making a seperate point and yes i went of on a tangent.

She is just silly for suing, would be sad if the hairdresser had to close down as she can't keep up with the legal fees and if she lost she would have to shut up shop to pay her £15,000 for hurtig her feelings. Who makes up this figures? :rolleyes: she should be sued for suing and then asking for a ludicrous amount of money!
what about bald hair dressers? aren'tt they facing a similiar dilemma.
Reply 6
Oh i agree that its silly that she's trying to sue, although perhaps unfair that she was being refused a job on something slightly trivial.
Reply 7
sarforaz
Completely inappropriate? You mean she shouldnt apply for the job because she wears a headscarf?
I didnt realise a headscarf impedes someone from cutting someone elses hair...
You can easily just put up pictures of models and whatnot with 'amazing' hair to create an 'image'.
In fact im not sure what image the owner is trying to give off...(judging from that bad picture :p:)


No, but the employer has a right to choose who they take on. She made it clear to this woman that her staff are required to show their hair whilst working in the salon. She's refused to comply but is now prepared to ruin this woman's business because she wasn't given the job. How is that fair?
sarforaz
Completely inappropriate? You mean she shouldnt apply for the job because she wears a headscarf?
I didnt realise a headscarf impedes someone from cutting someone elses hair...
You can easily just put up pictures of models and whatnot with 'amazing' hair to create an 'image'.
In fact im not sure what image the owner is trying to give off...(judging from that bad picture :p:)



agree with sarforaz..so what is she's got a scarf on her head..she hasn't tied her hands with the scarf...i think she was right to ask for justice but agree with blowing the whole thing out of proportion and having it all in the news and whatnot
The point is that the owner of the salon wanted a certain image for her salon, and the woman with the headscarf couldn't fulfil that image. It's not discrimination, it's simply not fitting the criteria for the job... I know it's a daily mail job, but I can't help but sympathise with the owner. It's ridiculous - this woman is attempting to use her religion as a way of making lots of cash.

Also, perhaps she was just a rubbish hairdresser. :rolleyes:
Reply 10
If every person went to sue the company that turned them down then we would have chaotic scenes. I am pleased to see that the hairdresser had the guts to tell her the truth and say it was because of her scarf, some people would have used other reasons "Your overqualified" - being the main one! :biggrin:

But you really cant have an overqualified hairdresser can you? loool
'Also, perhaps she was just a rubbish hairdresser.' lol most likely....and i see where your coming from about the image thing i suppose....btw who won the case?
Reply 12
Angrybanana
No, but the employer has a right to choose who they take on. She made it clear to this woman that her staff are required to show their hair whilst working in the salon. She's refused to comply but is now prepared to ruin this woman's business because she wasn't given the job. How is that fair?


I agree, the requirements of the job were that employees have their hair exposed, a reasonable request in their line of work. If she wasn't prepared to comply with that then tough luck, she doesn't get the job.

Not especially unreasonable and certainly not worth a lawsuit.
Yet another time a Muslim is getting ahead of themself and thinkin gthe whole world is aganist them. Read the article at the bottom about the Muslim in a Church of England school.... why did she ever go to the school in the first place and get accepted, she is Muslin not C of E.
Why would the hair dresser want to work at this place, as it is alternative?
The Muslim did not fit into the image of the shop, so the Manager/Owner did not want her. End of. Unemployment or headscalf.... your choice miss.
I think no religious symbols should be able to be worn at work/school etc. If the company allows a wedding band, I think that is fine.
Take the lead from France I say.
This girl needs a slap.
Ms Noah said today she had attended a total of 25 interviews for hairdressing jobs without success and had decided to take legal action because she had been upset by Ms Desrosiers' comments.

She said: "I decided to sue this hairdresser because she upset me the most. I felt so down and got so depressed, I thought if I am not going to defend myself, who is?
Reply 15
LiL MiSs cHeEkY
agree with sarforaz..so what is she's got a scarf on her head..she hasn't tied her hands with the scarf...i think she was right to ask for justice but agree with blowing the whole thing out of proportion and having it all in the news and whatnot


So you think that she was right to sue as she wasn't given the job? It's not all about the skills, sometimes it's important to project the right image, and this is one of those jobs where it is. (I do agree the hairdresser woman looks weird, though that's another point :p: ) Surely she should have the right to take on people who are willing to display their hair at work if that is her salon rule without being cowed by legal action from those who aren't?
negated enigma
what about bald hair dressers? aren'tt they facing a similiar dilemma.


No they're bloody not, what a provocative suggestion.
Reply 17
I agree with negated enigma.

But the reason she gives for suing are so stupid, she went for 25 interviews and got a no each time....did the penny not drop then?

Also the amount of money she is spending she could easily open up her own Salon - she is just gold digging.
Becky_Sheffield
Yet another time a Muslim is getting ahead of themself and thinkin gthe whole world is aganist them. Read the article at the bottom about the Muslim in a Church of England school.... why did she ever go to the school in the first place and get accepted, she is Muslin not C of E.
Why would the hair dresser want to work at this place, as it is alternative?
The Muslim did not fit into the image of the shop, so the Manager/Owner did not want her. End of. Unemployment or headscalf.... your choice miss.
I think no religious symbols should be able to be worn at work/school etc. If the company allows a wedding band, I think that is fine.
Take the lead from France I say.



oaky i think thats going abit over the top with the whole France thing, if they want to wear symbols they should be allowed...obviously unless there's specific image required such as the hairdressers...or a model etc obviously a muslim girl can't be a model covered from head to toe! But i don't think there's anything wrong with it in a school etc
Angrybanana
So you think that she was right to sue as she wasn't given the job? It's not all about the skills, sometimes it's important to project the right image, and this is one of those jobs where it is. (I do agree the hairdresser woman looks weird, though that's another point :p: ) Surely she should have the right to take on people who are willing to display their hair at work if that is her salon rule without being cowed by legal action from those who aren't?



yeh i suppose if you think of it like that....who won the case? or is it still going