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Will I be able to get an I.T job with a 3rd?

I am doing a degree in Computer Science and I think that I'm just going to get a pass (a third) and I'm wondering whether I'll be able to get an I.T job with this grade?
Original post by 3381882
I am doing a degree in Computer Science and I think that I'm just going to get a pass (a third) and I'm wondering whether I'll be able to get an I.T job with this grade?


It would be easier with a 2:2 tbh.

With a 3rd you need to explain why you fucced around. If you can put down some reason for the 3rd, getting onto a masters course may be doable. You would need to come across on interview as to why you got the 3rd.

Also it is not the end of the world, you can always do something else. RAF? Apprencticeships? Admin? Army? Learn a trade?
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Yes but it won't be easy. I suggest getting a masters to go with it
Original post by Kravence
Yes but it won't be easy. I suggest getting a masters to go with it


Getting a masters with a 3rd is hard as well.

I would suggest OP to go down the post grad diploma route if needed and then go onto MSc. Both will cover up the 3rd class degree.

Plus on the CV leave out your degree classification, only tell them if they ask.
Original post by baba_ram_dev
Getting a masters with a 3rd is hard as well.

I would suggest OP to go down the post grad diploma route if needed and then go onto MSc. Both will cover up the 3rd class degree.

Plus on the CV leave out your degree classification, only tell them if they ask.


yeah but I think university's would be more accepting of the 3rd class than employers since you're paying 10k+ to them lol
Original post by Kravence
yeah but I think university's would be more accepting of the 3rd class than employers since you're paying 10k+ to them lol


If it's just about the money, unis wouldn't bother with giving out offers, they'd just take anyone, even those who failed all their GCSEs.

Unis care about their reputation - this goes up if they take only the better students and not just anybody. It's also helps that the student do not fail the course, and go on to get a decent job or continue onto a masters / phd (more money to the uni). Their reputation is improved if they don't take on less capable students.

They care about the quality of their teaching - they want this to be a high level as possible, which won't happen if they have to dumb things down to teach thickos.

Then there's also the importance of their research. They won't get this if they don't get quality phd students (which are recruited from degrees and masters degree holders).
Original post by 3381882
I am doing a degree in Computer Science and I think that I'm just going to get a pass (a third) and I'm wondering whether I'll be able to get an I.T job with this grade?


Depends on the job.

Entry level jobs requiring an IT degree will be ruled out unless you have substantial work experience and high level programming skills to offset your Third.

Niche specialist IT jobs might still hire you, because it is hard for companies to recruit in these areas. But some of these jobs are likely to require mathematics as well as IT.
Original post by ThePricklyOne
If it's just about the money, unis wouldn't bother with giving out offers, they'd just take anyone, even those who failed all their GCSEs.

Unis care about their reputation - this goes up if they take only the better students and not just anybody. It's also helps that the student do not fail the course, and go on to get a decent job or continue onto a masters / phd (more money to the uni). Their reputation is improved if they don't take on less capable students.

They care about the quality of their teaching - they want this to be a high level as possible, which won't happen if they have to dumb things down to teach thickos.

Then there's also the importance of their research. They won't get this if they don't get quality phd students (which are recruited from degrees and masters degree holders).


"more accepting" doesn't equal "all".

Obviously reputation matters but money is still a big factor which is why people can still get into uni's while missing grades or even getting unconditional offers before taking any exams

Point still stands
Original post by 3381882
I am doing a degree in Computer Science and I think that I'm just going to get a pass (a third) and I'm wondering whether I'll be able to get an I.T job with this grade?


dude i am in the same position , doing computer science
Original post by Kravence
"more accepting" doesn't equal "all".

Obviously reputation matters but money is still a big factor which is why people can still get into uni's while missing grades or even getting unconditional offers before taking any exams

Point still stands


Your point does not stand. You said that uni would be more accepting of 3rd class students for a masters course. That is not true unless the uni is so skint they're take anybody. Most uni ask for at least 2.2. or 2.1 for a master's. Some ask for additional industry experience. This is true for IT. The student will also compete for few uni masters places with students who have both degrees and industry experiences, and those with lower degrees (and no work experience) are unlikely to be successful.

I'm don't care about the rep of the uni, but as I'm paying for my degree, it is important that the uni/course is not a waste of my money. I think this is true for most students, except the rich ones with access to the bank of mom & dad.

People who are missing grades / getting unconditional offers before exams are small in number and more likely have some other attributes that gets help them that offer. I don't think there are that many of those and not for a masters.

Or the uni can't get enough students to run that course and have to let anyone in. If they're doing this then the uni is skint and already can't pay for decent tutors. The student who go to those unis are wasting their money.

BTW a postgrad diploma is a stage on a master's degree, it's not something separate that you can 'use to cover up a 3rd'. The way the OP can do that is to take another degree and pass with a 2.2 or higher.
Original post by ThePricklyOne
Your point does not stand. You said that uni would be more accepting of 3rd class students for a masters course. That is not true unless the uni is so skint they're take anybody. Most uni ask for at least 2.2. or 2.1 for a master's. Some ask for additional industry experience. This is true for IT. The student will also compete for few uni masters places with students who have both degrees and industry experiences, and those with lower degrees (and no work experience) are unlikely to be successful.

I'm don't care about the rep of the uni, but as I'm paying for my degree, it is important that the uni/course is not a waste of my money. I think this is true for most students, except the rich ones with access to the bank of mom & dad.

People who are missing grades / getting unconditional offers before exams are small in number and more likely have some other attributes that gets help them that offer. I don't think there are that many of those and not for a masters.

Or the uni can't get enough students to run that course and have to let anyone in. If they're doing this then the uni is skint and already can't pay for decent tutors. The student who go to those unis are wasting their money.

BTW a postgrad diploma is a stage on a master's degree, it's not something separate that you can 'use to cover up a 3rd'. The way the OP can do that is to take another degree and pass with a 2.2 or higher.


what happens if i fail one module in final year
i am in the same position

but i didnt mess around with my studies, just bad choices and on the wrong course plus mental disorder
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Getting an Entry level IT job is very easy and does not need any sort of degree. These jobs include IT service desk/technician jobs. Once you get your foot in the door then you'll eventually work your way up.
Original post by ThePricklyOne
Your point does not stand. You said that uni would be more accepting of 3rd class students for a masters course. That is not true unless the uni is so skint they're take anybody. Most uni ask for at least 2.2. or 2.1 for a master's. Some ask for additional industry experience. This is true for IT. The student will also compete for few uni masters places with students who have both degrees and industry experiences, and those with lower degrees (and no work experience) are unlikely to be successful.

I'm don't care about the rep of the uni, but as I'm paying for my degree, it is important that the uni/course is not a waste of my money. I think this is true for most students, except the rich ones with access to the bank of mom & dad.

People who are missing grades / getting unconditional offers before exams are small in number and more likely have some other attributes that gets help them that offer. I don't think there are that many of those and not for a masters.

Or the uni can't get enough students to run that course and have to let anyone in. If they're doing this then the uni is skint and already can't pay for decent tutors. The student who go to those unis are wasting their money.

BTW a postgrad diploma is a stage on a master's degree, it's not something separate that you can 'use to cover up a 3rd'. The way the OP can do that is to take another degree and pass with a 2.2 or higher.


That's not what I said.
I said unis would be more accepting than employers of someone who has a 3rd
Original post by study beats
what happens if i fail one module in final year


If you fail one module in your final year, the uni could give you a degree classification based on the scores (which could be weighted) of all your modules including the one you failed to give you the final degree classification.

Or it can allow you a retake which may be capped at 40% or allowed the full marks.

You need to check with your uni to see what rules apply to you.
You can, but do you have projects to show and experience? This will be very vital. Try to volunteer for some time at a company.

I would develop software projects and contribute on open source projects and go for the developer roles (if you're interested in that).

Their is a guy who's got programmer interviews with no degree or experience: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4761776

For networking IT roles, do A+, N+, get a cisco network router for home, work with it, get some volunteer network admin experience then shoot for the CCNA.
Reply 16
Where do you even get those volunteer works. I have been searching for it online and can't find any though? Can anybody help me with it? I recently graduated with 3rd. i have no work experience in IT field at all. I do web design and stuff but very modest skill. I am really worried.
Original post by Analyst89
You can, but do you have projects to show and experience? This will be very vital. Try to volunteer for some time at a company.

I would develop software projects and contribute on open source projects and go for the developer roles (if you're interested in that).

Their is a guy who's got programmer interviews with no degree or experience: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4761776

For networking IT roles, do A+, N+, get a cisco network router for home, work with it, get some volunteer network admin experience then shoot for the CCNA.
Original post by fishtail
Where do you even get those volunteer works. I have been searching for it online and can't find any though? Can anybody help me with it? I recently graduated with 3rd. i have no work experience in IT field at all. I do web design and stuff but very modest skill. I am really worried.


On your CV, just put your degree name and university, not your degree score.

If you enjoy programming, software, web development, develop 5 high quality peices of software, web apps, websites (in javascript, c#) and I'm sure you'll be invited to interviews.

For networking IT roles, do A+, N+, get a cisco network router for home, work with it, get some volunteer network admin experience then shoot for the CCNA.

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