Segregated schools could face new inspections, says Ofsted

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My jaw actually dropped at this news article. I wasn't even aware that we had schools in England that segregated pupils based on sex.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40593836
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No surprises that it's a Islamic school...
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There are many all-boys and all-girls schools dotted throughout the UK, and Ofsted never bats an eyelid at any of those. Why are they so concerned by this place I wonder? :erm: Perhaps there's more to this than just splitting pupils up for lessons, maybe concerns that the school isn't educating the segregated classes equally?
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There are many all-boys and all-girls schools dotted throughout the UK, and Ofsted never bats an eyelid at any of those. Why are they so concerned by this place I wonder? :erm: Perhaps there's more to this than just splitting pupils up for lessons, maybe concerns that the school isn't educating the segregated classes equally?
The difference is those are designed to be single-sex schools; parents know what they are getting with this. Parents are sending their kids to these "mixed-sex" schools without realising they are being segregated like this.
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The difference is those are designed to be single-sex schools; parents know what they are getting with this. Parents are sending their kids to these "mixed-sex" schools without realising they are being segregated like this.
The parents must surely be aware of it. A 2-minute conversation with their darling sprog would be enough to find out, or just visiting the school itself, which most of them are likely doing on a daily basis. The article you linked makes no mention of a cover-up either.
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The parents must surely be aware of it. A 2-minute conversation with their darling sprog would be enough to find out, or just visiting the school itself, which most of them are likely doing on a daily basis. The article you linked makes no mention of a cover-up either.
It's not so much as it being a cover up, but these schools are labeling themselves as "mixed-sex" schools, so I think the grievance is over whether mixed-sex schools are allowed to segregate students based on sex, if they are claiming to be mixed-sex.
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If it is indeed a segregated school masquerading as a mixed-school then that's certainly a worry. Beyond that, segregated schools in general are very unremarkable in the country.
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The difference is those are designed to be single-sex schools; parents know what they are getting with this. Parents are sending their kids to these "mixed-sex" schools without realising they are being segregated like this.
Parents are well aware, these are Islamic schools. The parents probably support it.
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Parents are well aware, these are Islamic schools. The parents probably support it.
Parents is one thing, but is it abiding by our laws? Can a labelled mixed-sex school be allowed to segregate pupils like this?
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Parents is one thing, but is it abiding by our laws? Can a labelled mixed-sex school be allowed to segregate pupils like this?
That is what the courts are for.
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There are many all-boys and all-girls schools dotted throughout the UK, and Ofsted never bats an eyelid at any of those. Why are they so concerned by this place I wonder?
I can't see why you are puzzled about why it is obviously wrong. The pupils are being reinforced in the acceptability and normality of males having precedence over females, and are not being prepared for life in Britain (unless they are being trained how to live in a religious ghetto, of course, which may be the case).
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I can't see why you are puzzled about why it is obviously wrong. The pupils are being reinforced in the acceptability and normality of males having precedence over females, and are not being prepared for life in Britain (unless they are being trained how to live in a religious ghetto, of course, which may be the case).
Simply splitting classes isn't "males having precedence over females", though. That would only be the case if the two groups were receiving different educations, or being treated differently in some other manner. That's why I'm wondering if there's not more to this story than meets the eye, it seems really odd for Ofsted to focus on this school when segregation is so incredibly common in this country.
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Simply splitting classes isn't "males having precedence over females", though.
It doesn't matter. Once you start accepting that the sexes are split when in proximity to one another it becomes unnoticeable and natural when the men are at the front, receive a bigger inheritance, have their evidence treated as worth that of two women or take the lead in everything. It is insidious brainwashing, and quite unfit for the twenty-first century UK.
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It doesn't matter. Once you start accepting that the sexes are split when in proximity to one another it becomes unnoticeable and natural when the men are at the front, receive a bigger inheritance, have their evidence treated as worth that of two women or take the lead in everything. It is insidious brainwashing, and quite unfit for the twenty-first century UK.
I don't know what kind of school you attended, but there were definitely no inheritance programs at my local comprehensive. :eyeball:
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All faith schools should be banned in my opinion, only creates further divide in society.

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I don't know what kind of school you attended, but there were definitely no inheritance programs at my local comprehensive. :eyeball:
You are clearly being deliberately obtuse. Normalising different treatment of males and females at such a young age brainwashes them into accepting (and expecting) such treatment in all fields of later life.
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You are clearly being deliberately obtuse. Normalising different treatment of males and females at such a young age brainwashes them into accepting (and expecting) such treatment in all fields of later life.
So why is that okay for Eton and Roedean but not for this particular school?
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So why is that okay for Eton and Roedean but not for this particular school?
Segregation in a mixed environment is clearly not the same as single-sex schooling, as these beliefs and attitudes are not being inculcated, demonstrated and reinforced in the latter.
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Segregation in a mixed environment is clearly not the same as single-sex schooling, as these beliefs and attitudes are not being inculcated, demonstrated and reinforced in the latter.
If you say so, but it doesn't seem that different to me. I'd be far more concerned if teaching standards were not being kept equal, simply splitting classes should be fine so long as there is equal treatment.
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If you say so, but it doesn't seem that different to me. I'd be far more concerned if teaching standards were not being kept equal, simply splitting classes should be fine so long as there is equal treatment.
That's what they said about segregated buses in the USA. They all got a ride to school, didn't they?
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