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Hi I read an article on tatler which I can't tell is serious or not but it says you double your chances of getting into Cambridge if you apply to a women only college.

I was wondering if this is true, it would kinda make sense as there is less choice for the college out of applicants and the pooling system.
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Hi I read an article on tatler which I can't tell is serious or not but it says you double your chances of getting into Cambridge if you apply to a women only college.

I was wondering if this is true, it would kinda make sense as there is less choice for the college out of applicants and the pooling system.
Thanks
No. It's rubbish.
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Personally don't understand why you would want to go to a female only college. Maybe so those you don't get distracted in your studies by the opposite sex or you are just more comfortable about people of your own sex? You're going to have to mix with people of both sexes in the world eventually. I would say it's silly that there are no male only colleges but I doubt many guys would go for them- I think girls are better company a lot of the time.
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No. It's rubbish.
anything to back up this point?
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I didn't know female only colleges existed?? Christ almighty.
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anything to back up this point?
Only that I went to Cambridge, worked in outreach and spend an inordinate amount of time dispelling myths like this.

Happy to change my mind once I see statistics from the university (and there's millions out there) to show that it's 'easier to get into a female-only college'.

Doonesbury - one for you, I think.
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(Original post by imogen.h)
Hi I read an article on tatler which I can't tell is serious or not but it says you double your chances of getting into Cambridge if you apply to a women only college.

I was wondering if this is true, it would kinda make sense as there is less choice for the college out of applicants and the pooling system.
Thanks
The article is presumably this one: http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/...de---cambridge. Not exactly a seriously researched piece of journalism...
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anything to back up this point?
It was written by Tatler? Surely that's enough of a gigantic, blinking neon sign that it's garbage already?
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It was written by Tatler? Surely that's enough of a gigantic, blinking neon sign that it's garbage already?
I think they're probably best off discussing polo from the Hurlingham and Lady Elizabeth Smyth-*******face's new venture in the world of haute couture.
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(Original post by imogen.h)
Hi I read an article on tatler which I can't tell is serious or not but it says you double your chances of getting into Cambridge if you apply to a women only college.

I was wondering if this is true, it would kinda make sense as there is less choice for the college out of applicants and the pooling system.
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(Original post by Reality Check)
Only that I went to Cambridge, worked in outreach and spend an inordinate amount of time dispelling myths like this.

Happy to change my mind once I see statistics from the university (and there's millions out there) to show that it's 'easier to get into a female-only college'.

Doonesbury - one for you, I think.
Thanks Reality Check.

I imagine an intern at The Tatler, or some other eejit, has gone on the CAS page and looked at the university offer rate (approx 25%) and compared it to the Newnham applicant offer rate (approx 40%) and though ooooh look at that!

BUT they have forgotten that Newnham makes a significant number of offers from the pool. For example, in 2015 they made 73 pool offers vs 71 direct offers. That's more pool offers to applicants who applied elsewhere (i.e. not Newnham) than direct. So that brings the direct offer rate in 2015 down to below 20%, worse than the university average.

The guidance, as always, remains; apply to a college you like. It makes no difference to your chance of getting into Cambridge.
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(Original post by imogen.h)
Hi I read an article on tatler which I can't tell is serious or not but it says you double your chances of getting into Cambridge if you apply to a women only college.

I was wondering if this is true, it would kinda make sense as there is less choice for the college out of applicants and the pooling system.
Thanks
If your ultimate goal is getting into Cambridge, not into a particular college, no, it won't make any difference which college you originally apply to (or put open application), whether it's a female or mixed college.
It's because they have a system that enables 'The University' as a whole to admit most capable students regardless of their choice of college.
Please read "About Colleges' in this post on how and why. (it;s a couple of years old, but most of the info there is still relevant and useful.....and reliable as all the information came from actual people who are in charge of admission at Cambridge.)

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/sho...3#post58964173

(it also explains why what Doonesbury told you happens)
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Not for me, no.
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The article is presumably this one: http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/...de---cambridge. Not exactly a seriously researched piece of journalism...
Lol
I just read the actual article now.
Written like materials for stand-up comedy script ........
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Lol
I just read the actual article now.
Written like materials for stand-up comedy script ........
It's part of a series. Here's their 'in-depth analysis' on Oxford... http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/...guide---oxford
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Lol
I just read the actual article now.
Written like materials for stand-up comedy script ........
Only if it was on Channel 5 though....

(Is the bit about History correct?)

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It's part of a series. Here's their 'in-depth analysis' on Oxford... http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/...guide---oxford
So basically it's a collection of inside banters & cliche an outsider (= the writer) happened to pick up somewhere and wrote for other outsiders.........as a banter.....
How very informative...........(sarcasm)

Btw Emma Watson was there only for a year as a 'visiting student'. Didn't matriculate, so naturally didn't graduate. Does it still qualify as an 'alumni'??
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Only if it was on Channel 5 though....

(Is the bit about History correct?)

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Don't think so.
An essay is set by a supervisor for each of your tripos paper weekly. And you have to take at least 3 papers, so at least 3 essays you have to write........unless supervision system for History students is different from other courses. They still seem to have much a larger proportion of one-to-one supervisions (like in olden days....) than other courses, so that can be an attractive element of applying for history, though.




....... though if the magazine's editor/writer thinks info on 'celeb' alumni (rather than other notable alumni in the fields of science, literature, politics, business, etc...) is more important to their readers, correct info on supervisions/essay can be really irrelevant........
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Don't think so.
An essay is set by a supervisor for each of your tripos paper weekly. And you have to take at least 3 papers, so at least 3 essays you have to write........unless supervision system for History students is different from other courses. They still seem to have much a larger proportion of one-to-one supervisions (like in olden days....) than other courses, so that can be an attractive element of applying for history, though.




....... though if the magazine's editor/writer thinks info on 'celeb' alumni (rather than other notable alumni in the fields of science, literature, politics, business, etc...) is more important to their readers, correct info on supervisions/essay can be really irrelevant........
I was fortunate enough to study History (not at Oxbridge) in an era where the vast majority of unis utilised the weekly 1:1 tutorials for much of the course. It's an extremely effective way of learning and I think is the main advantage of reading such a subject at Oxford or Cambridge nowadays.
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I was fortunate enough to study History (not at Oxbridge) in an era where the vast majority of unis utilised the weekly 1:1 tutorials for much of the course. It's an extremely effective way of learning and I think is the main advantage of reading such a subject at Oxford or Cambridge nowadays.
Yes. But it's also beneficial to listen to other student/s opinion/analysis and be able to discus them with a guidance from a supervisor, too, like in recent years even at Oxbridge. (2 to 1 is more common these days)

But I definitely agree. The collegiate system and the supervision system are the true jewels in the crown of Oxbridge undergraduate courses.
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