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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    Queen Elizabeth and indeed no monarchs visited The Globe. There's this weird myth going about how Elizabeth I really liked Shakespeare and even wrote for him - it's a myth.

    King James was the one who really liked theatre and actively partake in it.

    You know what else King Jame took part in? Sodomy. And everyone knew about it. Are you suggesting homosexuality was of good standing because His Majesty was also doing it?



    An accurate portrayal of love and sex will also not "solve" the love and sex issue. You can hardly teach love and sex is very personal and depends on individual preferences.



    Oh. So it's all just speculation?

    Even you yourself pointed out the reasons why people are not having sex in Japan - the costs of living, parents tolerating those man-children, a hugely conservative society where sex is a big taboo etc. What evidence exactly do you have to suggest pornography has anything at all to do with that?

    To add on that, you are mixing up pop culture and porn - unrealistic expectations of the female bodies in Japan are largely perpetuated by pop culture. The huge boobs in animes, for example. Those are not porn.

    Octopus with cute eyes? How about bagel heads then? That's not porn and that's still giving people a weird fetish version of sexual attraction.
    Indeed Monarchs didn't visit the building itself but often would have the actors and performers visit them for private performances instead. Elizabeth I was said to enjoy Falstaff so much that she asked Shakespeare for "More of him..."

    King James? King James the what? Irrelevant point.

    Japan is not a hugely conservative society. You're completely wrong. (I am half Japanese.) Japan has quite forward thinking solutions with regards to sex. (See Love hotels). But as I said previously, Otaku culture is causing people to be invested in not-real life situations and through lack of practise and normalcy it is partially a factor in the fall of dating and relationships between young Japanese people.
    When somebody can feel emotionally invested in a body pillow in preference to having a relationship with a person because real life relationships are 'harder' then that would indicate that their relationship with hentai is stronger than their wish to meet real people.

    Also I am not mixing pop culture with porn. Try to tell me that hentai is not porn.

    Bagel heads is another irrelevant point. Bagel heads are an aesthetic body modification.Same as belly button piercing or Septum piercing. That has nothing to do with people's relationships to porn.
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    (Original post by Friffinghell)
    I think it's because gay male porn is still slightly more taboo for average audiences. Being a homosexual was only decriminalised in England and Wales in the 1960s.

    We've had a longer and more prevalent experience of straight porn which is why I think a lot of popular anti-porn propaganda focuses on female rights as the historically subjugated sex.

    Even today there's still that stigma of being a woman involved in the sex industry, whereas if a guy did a porn shoot he'd be 'a bro' and not 'a slut'. There's still a lot of double standards.
    well I'm not a homosexual. I like men. That's why I watch gay porn. In fact I don't like straight porn because I don't like the girl it kind of makes me a little uncomfortable. Plus the focus is too much on her. Even though I kind of always like never really could understand gender for myself or for anyone else I might find attractive. That's more to do with my identity though.

    Generally I like guys. So there's no stigma for me watching gay porn involving two men. But I don't get why as it seemed almost like some people depict male customers as pigs. I don't find the same problem and I don't get why. It's the same thing just different genders.
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    (Original post by miser)
    I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with porn, but some porn is problematic, and it's hard to tell good from bad. Sometimes the women are coerced or taken advantage of, but you would have no idea based on the video. It's also easy for some people to get hooked on porn or to start watching more and more extreme videos.

    On the other hand, there are some concerns about porn I think aren't particularly problematic. For example, the use of porn in a relationship I think is reasonable. Another example is that porn objectifies women - I think porn does objectify women, but I don't think all objectification is bad. In this case, there's simply no way around it, because the pleasure the viewer gets is derived almost entirely on what the girl looks like and what she's doing. Giving porn actresses personalities and back stories would be ridiculous, and people would skip it anyway to get to the good stuff.
    don't women have brains equal to men? I don't see how they'd be being coerced unless they're teens. I am not talking about child pornography. That's not even porn imo. That's rape.


    Doesn't porn objectify men too. I mean I guess they're all doing basically the same thing imo. It's porn why is it even wrong to some objectify anyone?
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    (Original post by lmaooome)
    it is very wrong to watch porn I suppose - it provides those who do enjoy watching porn on a daily a false interpretation of sex which to an extent enhances the negative psychological effects on a person. For example, most males who do watch porn often describe it as "pleasing" due to them being in control of a female as porn does not involve touching or emotional attachment towards the partner and is in fact not "reality" so I guess it just messes up with your head and all.
    I'm female so maybe that's why I didn't get your post. But control of what exactly? This did not make much sense to me.
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    (Original post by black1blade)
    There's a difference between moderate porn consumption and addiction. Of course it is bad if you get addicted but for the vast majority of people who watch porn- their lives are in now way negatively impacted. It definitely is healthy to masturbate regularly frequently (multiple times a week).
    I can get addicted to paper or a computer. I figure it's alright to be addicted since it's going to happen no matter what it is as long as I still am working it's all good imo.
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    (Original post by justme3991)
    don't women have brains equal to men? I don't see how they'd be being coerced unless they're teens. I am not talking about child pornography. That's not even porn imo. That's rape.

    Doesn't porn objectify men too. I mean I guess they're all doing basically the same thing imo. It's porn why is it even wrong to some objectify anyone?
    I'm not saying the reason they can be coerced is because they're female, but sometimes vulnerable people are targeted (in this case it happens to be women). In Japan for example I know women have been told one thing (e.g. 'modelling'), asked to sign a contract that says something else (porn), and then when they don't want to do the scene, they are shouted at and threatened with expensive fees for breaking the contract. In a situation like that, it's coercion regardless of gender, age, etc.

    Porn does objectify men also. I'm not a person who believes all objectification is bad though.
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    (Original post by Kvothe the Arcane)
    I think the reason why people think porn degrades women is because it's male-centric. The majority of porn, even lesbian porn, is aimed with a straight male customer in mind. The titles are often quite misogynistic and the female actresses are often the recipients of a lot of abuse.
    Most of the time "abuse" is scripted.

    Sadly not always.
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    (Original post by Nathan Scott)
    I know enough to know it is bad for you.

    And so what? Obviously people will get 'happy' from watching porn the same way they may get 'happy' from doing drugs, I don't see your point.
    Drugs affect you negatively, it destroys your body... I'm pretty sure porn doesn't do that
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    I find that there is nothing more inviting than a sea of breasts on the screen of my laptop all waiting for my inspection.
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    (Original post by justme3991)
    I'm female so maybe that's why I didn't get your post. But control of what exactly? This did not make much sense to me.
    right. when people often watch porn they begin to fantasise for example, men they begin to imitate what they see in porn which is having sexual dominance over a female which leads them to believe that sexual intercourse is predominantly there to cater for their needs and only their needs.

    For women I think they then feel the need to accept the oppression and restriction by male individuals which results in both partners to develop wrong ideologies etc etc.
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    (Original post by shai01)
    Drugs affect you negatively, it destroys your body... I'm pretty sure porn doesn't do that
    yh porn does it physically rewires the brain - cuts dopamine receptors down and makes all kinds of new neuro pathways
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    we might as well close the thread now as we can all agree its impossible to defend porn. all the benefits are just liberal lefty sex positive ******s drumming up vague ideas to justify that yes sitting in a dark room jerking it to increasing questionable material is absolutely natural normal healthy and should be encouraged
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    (Original post by Dominoes)
    yh porn does it physically rewires the brain - cuts dopamine receptors down and makes all kinds of new neuro pathways
    Citation needed
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    (Original post by Meany Pie)
    Citation needed
    ah come on pal really.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Your-Brain-.../dp/B00N2AH8NW
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    (Original post by Dominoes)
    yh porn does it physically rewires the brain - cuts dopamine receptors down and makes all kinds of new neuro pathways
    Meh, so does social media
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    (Original post by awkwardshortguy)
    Because it provides unrealistic expectations that ones partner should know where to put it
    Everything promotes unrealistic expectations. 90% of facebook is unrealistic expectations, from people's profile pics to those little cooking videos that make out that you can make a delicious meal using two bananas and a box of shreddies.

    Pornography is probably more genuine that most other media. Most of what is portrayed is possible to most people. The vast majority of pornography is centered on half a dozen or so rather common acts that a great many people have done. The looks and physical characteristics of the actors are irrelevant - pretty much all actors in any kind of media are more attractive that average people.

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    I'd go so far as to say that pornography is in many ways a very honest form of media. The people are employed for some function of their looks / physical characteristics and also their ability to have sex. These people by and large do look as they do (albeit with makeup), and can do the things they do on camera.

    Regular actors, on the other hand, are not really as strong, as fast or have as much guile as their characters. Police officers or lawyers do not behave as they do on film, and by and large don't do the things they do on film.

    I would hazard that of 100 pornography scenes, many would be closer to actual sex and more accessible to normal people than 100 movie courtroom scenes would be to actually being in court.
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    (Original post by Dominoes)
    yh porn does it physically rewires the brain - cuts dopamine receptors down and makes all kinds of new neuro pathways
    Oh wow... so it makes your mood worse?
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    (Original post by fdc gh)
    Whats that?
    Typo
    Supposed to be or tricked
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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    People are forced into working in many service industry all over the world, so why single out porn?
    Of course it does and it's wrong in those industries too. I clearly wasn't trying to single it out we are talking about porn so I made a point about porn so i'm not really sure what you are trying to say. that it's ok to traffic people into porn because it happens in other industries?
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    If you're interested on the lifestyles and lives of people who made a name and a living out of porn you should read Jenna Jameson's autobiography.
 
 
 
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