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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    It is not the job of government to police who is and is not allowed to look at porn on the internet, especially not from the party that likes to portray itself as the "unobtrusive small government" party. Stupid moralistic nanny state attitudes like this should have died out years ago.

    To be honest, I'm more worried that this is just another step towards full on internet censorship. Start with porn and terrorism to make it hard for anyone to oppose it and speak out against it (and unfortunately it seems to be working), and when those powers are established it gets extended to "extreme" or "unacceptable" content which could very easily include political and current affairs content.
    Why isn't it? We're not talking about adults here. The legislation is aimed at the protection of minors.

    This is what I can't stand about libertarians - they think that everyone should be exposed to anything because they want to be.
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    (Original post by Meany Pie)
    Tons of porn, we used it in uni halls to bypass their stupid porn block.

    I don't think it is that big a problem.
    I remember viewing some porn in my first month in uni halls as a fresher, getting scared shitless I was being watched and someone would come knock on my door and embarass me xD
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    Agreed, you can definitely see how this is the beginning of a very slippery slope. Ironic therefore it comes from the party who has often espoused the small state mantra.
    Looks like your section might be next with this slippery slope...

    RoboMay takes no prisoners *beep boop*
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    (Original post by zayn008)
    I like this idea, effectively it’ll stop anyone under 16. If you have the intelligence to use a VPN/bypass it then you’re old enough, it won’t be effective in the 16-18 bracket but certainly will stop most curious under 15s and all under 12s which I think is good.

    Not sure if giving away credit card info is a good idea though.. could easily be scammed. The government will need to build an index of trusted sites to protect people from fraud.
    The obvious solution is to link it to National Insurance records, but then the libertarians would be shouting about big brother.

    People need to get real and stop imagining the internet is some kind of modern mockup version of Dodge City and that anything goes. It doesn't.
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    (Original post by Meany Pie)
    Looks like your section might be next with this slippery slope...

    RoboMay takes no prisoners *beep boop*
    She would bring the hammer down no doubt:judge:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Why isn't it? We're not talking about adults here. The legislation is aimed at the protection of minors.

    This is what I can't stand about libertarians - they think that everyone should be exposed to anything because they want to be.
    It isn't that big of an issue, parents have the ability to set controls of their own internet. Public internet and school internet also has controls on it. To access porn on mobile internet there is already an age check.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Why isn't it? We're not talking about adults here. The legislation is aimed at the protection of minors.

    This is what I can't stand about libertarians - they think that everyone should be exposed to anything because they want to be.
    We do have a duty to look after our youngens but teenagers do have sex lives. I'm not convinced just outright banning everything sex from from teenagers is a good thing. There isn't anything uniquely or inherently wrong with teenagers getting hold of material to masturbate to. Your hormones are all over the place and you have urges man.

    People have babies before they are 18. It seems weird to me that we have this random cut off point well after humans become sexually matured to the extent they can have children. Teenagers have sex.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    No, but protecting children from porn is not being puritanical, it's being intelligent. There's nothing rational, in religion or outside it, in making hardcore freely available to young kids.
    You don't seem to have a problem with drugs being freely available to kids and there's nothing rational or intelligent in this plan.
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    She would bring the hammer down no doubt:judge:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    No, but protecting children from porn is not being puritanical, it's being intelligent. There's nothing rational, in religion or outside it, in making hardcore freely available to young kids.
    Why cant parents be good parents and not buy their 12 year old a smartphone?
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    (Original post by Zargabaath)
    **** right off May

    "Kids watching porn is immoral, but selling weapons to Saudi that end up being used to murder kids of the same age is coolio"
    Brilliant
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    (Original post by Kravence)
    I'm starting to think ours and other governments around the world have never heard of a Vpn before.
    Nor have schools haha
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Why isn't it? We're not talking about adults here. The legislation is aimed at the protection of minors.

    This is what I can't stand about libertarians - they think that everyone should be exposed to anything because they want to be.
    Let's look at your other comment:

    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    No, but protecting children from porn is not being puritanical, it's being intelligent. There's nothing rational, in religion or outside it, in making hardcore freely available to young kids.
    If you introduce restrictions like this, it will only affect the reputable sites.

    Now, teenagers are not going to give up after a few minutes of googling, they will keep trying. Instead of reputable sites, they'll find access to all sorts of nasty stuff that keeps popping up and gets around the censors. Maybe some dodgy websites from Russia or god knows where that could have bestiality and paedophilia alongside normal content.

    So for "protecting" kids and young teens from hardcore, it's actually likely to make things worse by driving them towards lesser known and less regulated sites.

    There's also the data security issue with using credit card details to verify your age, as well as the slippery slope towards outright internet censorship.
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    (Original post by Kravence)
    I'm starting to think ours and other governments around the world have never heard of a Vpn before.

    If there's a will, there's a way.
    For sure. Any kid with half a brain should be able to get around it. Not to mention there's also "credit card generators" online that can easily produce a fake credit card that's viable and works, same goes with pretty much everything else.

    They're not going to achieve what they're trying to anyway, it's only gonna make the situation worse, for all the points RF_PineMarten mentioned.
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    I think they tried to prevent people from accessing PirateBay before but people still found a way around it.
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    (Original post by RF_PineMarten)
    Let's look at your other comment:



    If you introduce restrictions like this, it will only affect the reputable sites.

    Now, teenagers are not going to give up after a few minutes of googling, they will keep trying. Instead of reputable sites, they'll find access to all sorts of nasty stuff that keeps popping up and gets around the censors. Maybe some dodgy websites from Russia or god knows where that could have bestiality and paedophilia alongside normal content.

    So for "protecting" kids and young teens from hardcore, it's actually likely to make things worse by driving them towards lesser known and less regulated sites.

    There's also the data security issue with using credit card details to verify your age, as well as the slippery slope towards outright internet censorship.
    This. Yet again in attempting to regulate the internet, the current Government has actually created a situation which will likely longer term increase security issues as people migrate towards sites that aren't tracked and are riddled with malware. And then the Government will have to fork over another couple of billion to GCHQ to figure out why the NHS computers aren't working again

    It will be interesting to see how this works (or does not) in practice purely from an academic perspective.
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    absolutely ridiculous, there is no evidence that porn is harmful to kids. why are conservatives so vehemently against the human body? it's literally our one purpose in life, to have sex and reproduce, and the government wants to mandate how people think about it? stupid
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    Pfft who even watches porn these days... When your girlfriend tells you she's home alone would you rather watch porn instead??

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    No, you'd take a faketaxi to her house
 
 
 
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