Was Alan Shearer world class?

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I've been having a debate with friends about whether he should be classed as a world class striker.

I wouldn't say he was world class, but no denying that he's a premier league great.






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You must be a Sunderland fan to even consider that he is not
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Jesus Christ.

He scored over 30 goals in the league 3 times, scored over 25 goals overall 8 times, is the premier league's highest ever goal scorer, turned up for England in competitive finals, top scorer at euro 96.

if he's not world class who the fuc* in premier league history is, since he outscored literally everyone?

EDIT: true geordie would fuc*ing kill you if you asked him that lmao
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Jesus Christ.

He scored over 30 goals in the league 3 times, scored over 25 goals overall 8 times, is the premier league's highest ever goal scorer, turned up for England in competitive finals, top scorer at euro 96.

if he's not world class who the fuc* in premier league history is, since he outscored literally everyone?

EDIT: true geordie would fuc*ing kill you if you asked him that lmao
I'm pretty sure to be considered world class you must of done something on a European stage. You can say oh it's the club he played for, but he had every opportunity to leave to join a bigger club and establish himself.

It's pretty much like Kane, he's not world class he hasn't done **** on the big stage.


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Undoubtedly world class. He and Ronaldo were probably the top two strikers at that time.
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I know little about football, but undoubtedly; yes.
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I'm pretty sure to be considered world class you must of done something on a European stage. You can say oh it's the club he played for, but he had every opportunity to leave to join a bigger club and establish himself.

It's pretty much like Kane, he's not world class he hasn't done **** on the big stage.


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do the euros not count as a European stage?

he scored 30 goals in 49 continental games, including the Champions League.

he went to Newcastle for sentimental reasons, you can't blame him for that. The fact then that his CL record in terms of achievement is poor doesn't make sense since he played for a team that wasn't that great.

Bosingwa's won CL, doesn't mean he's world class. As has Djibril Cisse.

Put it this way, if Man Utd wanted him to play upfront, considering how good Utd forwards have been, he must have been world class imo. Utd didn't and still don't go for any less when it comes to forwards.
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(Original post by bhfn)
I've been having a debate with friends about whether he should be classed as a world class striker.

I wouldn't say he was world class, but no denying that he's a premier league great.






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He scored 260 PL goals in 451 appearances. If he played in every game a season, he'll end up with 22 goals a season on average.

World class for Blackburn though with average goal per season if played every game of 31 goals a season for 4 consecutive seasons.

Also on the BBC highest salaries list so must be good
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(Original post by hamzakalinle)
do the euros not count as a European stage?

he scored 30 goals in 49 continental games, including the Champions League.

he went to Newcastle for sentimental reasons, you can't blame him for that. The fact then that his CL record in terms of achievement is poor doesn't make sense since he played for a team that wasn't that great.

Bosingwa's won CL, doesn't mean he's world class. As has Djibril Cisse.

Put it this way, if Man Utd wanted him to play upfront, considering how good Utd forwards have been, he must have been world class imo. Utd didn't and still don't go for any less when it comes to forwards.
He hasn't had a good international career except the 96 euros.

Like you said, it was his choice to go to Newcastle there was no external factors to prevent him from making a better career choice.

I'm not saying if you've won the champions league you're world class... you have to of performed in the champions league. All of shearers achievement are domestic

At the time period of Shearer the premier league wasn't even as strong as other leagues if you look at the eufa coefficient ranking in 1997 the premier league was ranked 7th. As he didn't do anything in the premier league, I don't believe he would've of done it in a harder league.

I think people are not realising I'm not saying he's rubbish, there's no doubt he's a great striker but he's just a premier league great.


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Kevin Phillips was better.
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I don't think he was. Of England strikers, I would put Jimmy Greaves and Gary Lineker as better.
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(Original post by bhfn)
I'm pretty sure to be considered world class you must of done something on a European stage. You can say oh it's the club he played for, but he had every opportunity to leave to join a bigger club and establish himself.

It's pretty much like Kane, he's not world class he hasn't done **** on the big stage.


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Ibrahimovic hasn't done much in Europe but few would dispute his career. Ronaldo never won the Champions League either.
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Ibrahimovic hasn't done much in Europe but few would dispute his career. Ronaldo never won the Champions League either.
He hasn't done that bad in the champions league. Yes he hasn't won it, but he's performed consistently in Holland, Spain, France, Italy and the UK...

Ronaldo has gone one step further and carried his team to the World Cup.


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You can't really criticise 9 in 13 in international tournaments
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You can't really criticise 9 in 13 in international tournaments
You can... depends on the opponent, level of the match... just like how you can criticise Rooney. Yes he may the all time England goal scorer but he only scored 1 goal in the World Cup, and quite a few of his goals came from qualifiers and friendlies.


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You can... depends on the opponent, level of the match... just like how you can criticise Rooney. Yes he may the all time England goal scorer but he only scored 1 goal in the World Cup, and quite a few of his goals came from qualifiers and friendlies.


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It's not like that at all because it's tournament goals only. No hattricks against San Marino and Andorra.

Opposition:
Switzerland
Scotland
Netherlands x2
Germany
Tunisia
Argentina
Germany
Romania
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(Original post by difeo)
It's not like that at all because it's tournament goals only. No hattricks against San Marino and Andorra.

Opposition:
Switzerland
Scotland
Netherlands x2
Germany
Tunisia
Argentina
Germany
Romania
Giroud has 6 goals in 5 games, what's your point?


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Giroud has 6 goals in 5 games, what's your point?


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Lmao wat
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Lmao wat
Shearer had 9 goals in 13 games international games, Giroud has 6 goals in his last 5 international games. Is he world class too?


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Shearer had 9 goals in 13 games international games, Giroud has 6 goals in his last 5 international games. Is he world class too?


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You can't possibly think that's a good comparison

less than 10% of Giroud's international career compared to the entirety of Shearer's international tournament career
the opposition was Paraguay x3, Luxembourg x2 and Sweden
3 of them were in a friendly, 0 in a tournament
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