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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Perhaps you missed this article, and the fact he tried to capture the youth vote on a classic switch and bait bit of bribery & bluff with this recent student debt clearout electoral scandal? :dontknow:

    Well, I suppose that's good to know, albeit that one would hope you are not rigidly conservative i.e. you see the merit in reforming things where doing so looks likely to be genuinely progressive
    Of Course. But i would rather be with a man who was a conservative like me but lie not ultra conservative oh and seeing as its on topic,I would also recommend we encourage women to have kids earlier on rather than leaving it to their late 20s
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    (Original post by Al-farhan)
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    You will be diluting the native gene pool with Syrian Arab blood
    The native gene pool has already been diluted since the 1950's, what difference is a bit more going to make?
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I would rather be with a man who was a conservative like me but like not ultra conservative
    About a 6 or 7 on a scale of one to Hitler :judge:

    I would also recommend we encourage women to have kids earlier on rather than leaving it to their late 20s
    Correct answer. Clearly current 'encouragement' is absolutely failing, however. We need more effective norms, institutions, values, and programs of education and incentives. Have a nasty feeling the elite rather want formerly strong, fertile, and united white European nations to be hollowed out, and usurped, in demographic terms (ahead of the next phase they have in store) :sad:
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)

    Clearly current 'encouragement' is absolutely failing, however. We need more effective norms, institutions, values, and programs of education and incentives. Have a nasty feeling the elite rather want formerly strong, fertile, and united white European nations to be hollowed out, and usurped, in demographic terms (ahead of the next phase they have in store) :sad:
    There is no 'encouragement' for the middle class, only for the poor.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    About a 6 or 7 on a scale of one to Hitler :judge:

    Correct answer. Clearly current 'encouragement' is absolutely failing, however. We need more effective norms, institutions, values, and programs of education and incentives. Have a nasty feeling the elite rather want formerly strong, fertile, and united white European nations to be hollowed out, and usurped, in demographic terms (ahead of the next phase they have in store) :sad:
    Who me? Im not And ultra conservative but I am a bit too conservative for some,let's put it that way.

    Ah so you'd prefer to procreate with a white woman? And is that what you would also prefer for the majorityof white Europeans? To marry within their race and have kids etc

    But other groups have never really needed any encouragement to have kids or larger families so I don't understand what kind of encouragement we are talking about here
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    (Original post by Mair18919)
    There is no 'encouragement' for the middle class, only for the poor
    Know what you mean but free childcare + tax-free childcare + child tax credit

    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Who me?
    No, your ideal man, silly

    I am a bit too conservative for some,let's put it that way
    Guardianistas need not apply :hand:

    Ah so you'd prefer to procreate with a white woman?
    1) Statistically speaking, it matters not what I personally do

    2) Furthermore, in cases like mine there is no threat of significant cultural dilution/debasement as my children will be raised in a manner consistent with my British identity/values, whatever the mother's ethnicity may be. In fact, it's probably additive (the white British woman/women freed up by my opting not to mate with them can go on and mate with other ethno-cultural Brits, siring yet more authentically British offspring)

    is that what you would also prefer for the majority of white Europeans?
    Virtually all tribal/civilisational groups must have a strong, united, and authentic ethno-cultural core if they are to survive the test of time. Look at the state of the first nation peoples of the New World for an example as to what happens when you let this slip

    The population may slowly transform into something more heterogeneous (indeed, this is somewhat desirable in genetic and cultural terms); however, a continued rush to ethnic and cultural diversity via mass immigration and unstable interracial/cultural relations (multicultural social engineering) can currently only mean that Western civilisation is bred out of existence and/or perverted and debased beyond all recognition

    other groups have never really needed any encouragement to have kids or larger families
    Why do you think that is?

    I don't understand what kind of encouragement we are talking about here
    Any and all kinds of encouragement, if we wish to effectively encourage folks: “more effective norms, institutions, values, and programs of education and incentives”
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Know what you mean but free childcare + tax-free childcare + child tax credit

    No, your ideal man, silly

    Guardianistas need not apply :hand:

    1) Statistically speaking, it matters not what I personally do

    2) Furthermore, in cases like mine there is no threat of significant cultural dilution/debasement as my children will be raised in a manner consistent with my British identity/values, whatever the mother's ethnicity may be. In fact, it's probably additive (the white British woman/women freed up by my opting not to mate with them can go on and mate with other ethno-cultural Brits, siring yet more authentically British offspring)

    Virtually all tribal/civilisational groups must have a strong, united, and authentic ethno-cultural core if they are to survive the test of time. Look at the state of the first nation peoples of the New World for an example as to what happens when you let this slip

    The population may slowly transform into something more heterogeneous (indeed, this is somewhat desirable in genetic and cultural terms); however, a continued rush to ethnic and cultural diversity via mass immigration and unstable interracial/cultural relations (multicultural social engineering) can currently only mean that Western civilisation is bred out of existence and/or perverted and debased beyond all recognition

    Why do you think that is?

    Any and all kinds of encouragement, if we wish to effectively encourage folks: “more effective norms, institutions, values, and programs of education and incentives”
    Well,the guardianistas amongst my circle of friends come off like cool caring characters but aren't probably scary of my conservative views on society etc.

    What If the mother has her own cultural values or her own cultural identity? This is why for me,it has always been problematic being mixed raced. And I'm not tbe only one who's probably had identity issues.

    Anyway I'm sure most people will sooner or later need to accept that the majority of the world's population will be of mixed race,according to nat geo and I certainly welcome it! After all,variety is the spice of life

    If other women of other races have no issues reproducing,I don't see what's stopping white western women. I don't know what the incentives are or should be. I personally want kids and so do the majority of the women I know. For me it's a natural feeling anyway and don't need the government giving me incentives to do so
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Well, the guardianistas amongst my circle of friends come off like cool caring characters but aren't probably scary of my conservative views on society etc
    Libtards are typically a bit myopic/arrogant, so they’d probably be unphased by a traditional girl e.g. wouldn’t bother to notice or else would assume they could corrupt her :rolleyes:

    What If the mother has her own cultural values or her own cultural identity?
    Kids are like sponges: they soak up culture from all corners. The mother of my children will not have a core cultural identity/values that are at odds with my own, ours will be complementary, and we’ll take the best from both worlds

    it has always been problematic being mixed raced
    Not sure I follow

    I'm not tbe only one who's probably had identity issues
    From what you’ve told us, you have had a very unusual/strained personal life. Take that out of the equation and you’d be more secure and settled in who you are and what you’re about

    the majority of the world's population will be of mixed race
    Aye, hopefully later, rather than sooner, as it seems humanity depends on this being a gradual process

    After all, variety is the spice of life
    It’s also the ruination of civilised society, if not handled correctly (e.g. retrograde multiculturalism)

    I don't see what's stopping white western women
    Yes you do, you’re reasonably astute and have an imagination, I’m sure you can think of quite a few reasons ‘modern white women’ are tending to have kids aged 30+

    I don't know what the incentives are or should be
    That’s the million dollar question

    don't need the government giving me incentives to do so
    Aye, but funnily enough, you’re rather different to most British bints (Amen)
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    (Original post by astutehirstute)
    ...increasing steadily since the 90's.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40655563

    Is this a fantastic phenomenon, proof of the remarkable diversity in our society? A harbinger of a glorious future society in which differences in colour, creed and language will disappear?

    Or evidence of one of the most remarkable demographic changes, over a similarly short period, ever witnessed in human history? The consequences of which for social cohesion are impossible to predict?

    Or neither of these, and something else?

    Your thoughts...
    It's a society slowly replacing itself aided and abetted by the media and major political parties. Future historians or robots will find it quite curious.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Libtards are typically a bit myopic/arrogant, so they’d probably be unphased by a traditional girl e.g. wouldn’t bother to notice or else would assume they could corrupt her :rolleyes:

    Kids are like sponges: they soak up culture from all corners. The mother of my children will not have a core cultural identity/values that are at odds with my own, ours will be complementary, and we’ll take the best from both worlds

    Not sure I follow

    From what you’ve told us, you have had a very unusual/strained personal life. Take that out of the equation and you’d be more secure and settled in who you are and what you’re about

    Aye, hopefully later, rather than sooner, as it seems humanity depends on this being a gradual process

    It’s also the ruination of civilised society, if not handled correctly (e.g. retrograde multiculturalism)

    Yes you do, you’re reasonably astute and have an imagination, I’m sure you can think of quite a few reasons ‘modern white women’ are tending to have kids aged 30+

    That’s the million dollar question

    Aye, but funnily enough, you’re rather different to most British bints (Amen)
    I wouldn't allow anybody to corrupt me let alone a libtard! Do you know how soft liberal men actually are?! They just say yes to anything a woman wants and I don't find that attractive at all

    I guess she can have a cultural identity of her own and it shouldn't affect how you choose to live life together,if you agree on core principles etc. That's the beauty of intercultural relationships

    Ah ofcourse feminism has a huge part to play in the reason why women are having babies later on. For health reasons it isn't good anyway but women know the risks associated with having kids later on. Just recently my doctor told me that fertility in women decreases after 24,so you can imagine the pressure i am under knowing that this is the one thing I can't control and of course I don't want to leave it til late and end up regretting it. I've always liked the idea of having kids young. The reason you say I'm different to most British females is maybe because I'm a lot more traditional...
    Like I want a man who's the head of the household and the love,honour obey aspect of marriage etc,Im more than happy to do for my man. That's doesn't mean we still can't be equal
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I wouldn't allow anybody to corrupt me let alone a libtard!
    Oh I think we both know you’d let someone very special ‘corrupt’ the **** out of you :devil:

    Do you know how soft liberal men actually are?!
    Around an 8, on a scale of one to Chaotic Butterfly :scrooge:

    I guess she can have a cultural identity of her own and it shouldn't affect how you choose to live life together, if you agree on core principles etc. That's the beauty of intercultural relationships
    Yes indeed. You see, people have distinct ideological/cultural identities even within the same microcosmic old-fashioned communities, let alone in ‘modern Britain’. This is why we must consider it so fortunate when we meet someone with whom we are organically aligned

    feminism
    Yup, this is one of a number of somewhat intertwined factors

    you can imagine the pressure i am under knowing that this is the one thing I can't control and of course I don't want to leave it til late and end up regretting it
    You can’t control your ticking biological clock, but your fate remains in your own hands re: raising children with the right man

    I've always liked the idea of having kids young
    You’ve certainly always talked about it, for as long as I’ve known you, but we’ve never yet seen any action that supports this “idea”

    The reason you say I'm different to most British females is maybe because I'm a lot more traditional
    That’s certainly one of them. You seem to more highly value authenticity, congruency, stability, self-respect, duty, depth, etc. Unfortunately these qualities are in increasingly short supply among the hedonistic and somewhat infantile young women of today (particularly the feminists, aye)

    I want a man who's the head of the household and the love, honour obey aspect of marriage etc, I’m more than happy to do for my man. That's doesn't mean we still can't be equal
    If there is mutual love and honour, then any inequality in terms of who ultimately rules the roost is of little significance, indeed, so long as everyone's happy
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Oh I think we both know you’d let someone very special ‘corrupt’ the **** out of you :devil:

    Around an 8, on a scale of one to Chaotic Butterfly :scrooge:

    Yes indeed. You see, people have distinct ideological/cultural identities even within the same microcosmic old-fashioned communities, let alone in ‘modern Britain’. This is why we must consider it so fortunate when we meet someone with whom we are organically aligned

    Yup, this is one of a number of somewhat intertwined factors

    You can’t control your ticking biological clock, but your fate remains in your own hands re: raising children with the right man

    You’ve certainly always talked about it, for as long as I’ve known you, but we’ve never yet seen any action that supports this “idea”

    That’s certainly one of them. You seem to more highly value authenticity, congruency, stability, self-respect, duty, depth, etc. Unfortunately these qualities are in increasingly short supply among the hedonistic and somewhat infantile young women of today (particularly the feminists, aye)

    If there is mutual love and honour, then any inequality in terms of who ultimately rules the roost is of little significance, indeed, so long as everyone's happy
    We both know I would! It's magical :heart:


    Liberal men are like big teddy bears,they'll never say no to you which is bad because then they'll just get taken advantage of by manipulative women and people in general.
    I agree. This is why I can't wait to get married and have my own family.

    It's been extra difficult given certain issues I've had related to long term use of the pill. The pill is very problematic,it's causing all sorts of fertility problems in women rendering some infertile in the end
    If I could go back and do everything again,I'd be married by now and certainly have at least a child and a few before my 30th.

    Ah thank you! I'm so flattered you think all those things of me! I hope to be the best person I can be and be a good influence on younger women and make a difference to the world in general
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I can't wait to get married and have my own family
    Again, still waiting to see some evidence of this 3+ years on :flute:

    The pill is very problematic,it's causing all sorts of fertility problems in women rendering some infertile in the end
    Aye, it's pretty terrible eh. Still more so, the pressure heaped on Boots recently for attempting to take a moral position on not making the morning after pill (even more toxic than the regular pill) more affordable. The world's gone insane, and feminism is in large part to blame :rolleyes:

    If I could go back and do everything again, I'd be married by now
    To the wrong guy, most likely :holmes:

    Ah thank you! I'm so flattered you think all those things of me!
    You're welcome

    I hope to be the best person I can be and be a good influence on younger women and make a difference to the world in general
    A venerable aspiration, t'be sure. I'm not sure about being a good influence, myself, but it's certainly rewarding to make a difference, even if that does sometimes mean standing up, speaking out, and putting onself in harms way
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    In the future all people will have to be more nimble and mobile, being willing to move between countries to survive rather than growing up, working and dying in the same country you were born in let alone the same county or region.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Again, still waiting to see some evidence of this 3+ years on :flute:

    Aye, it's pretty terrible eh. Still more so, the pressure heaped on Boots recently for attempting to take a moral position on not making the morning after pill (even more toxic than the regular pill) more affordable. The world's gone insane, and feminism is in large part to blame :rolleyes:

    To the wrong guy, most likely :holmes:

    You're welcome

    A venerable aspiration, t'be sure. I'm not sure about being a good influence, myself, but it's certainly rewarding to make a difference, even if that does sometimes mean standing up, speaking out, and putting onself in harms way
    Oh the pill Is very toxic indeed,I'll be keeping away from it. No thanks! It's really weird that doctors are just randomly prescribing 'the pill' as if it's nothing harmful when in fact it's then complete opposite,I am living proof of that but I hope to make other females aware of what they're dealing with.

    Aye,perhaps to the wrong guy but I'd at least be married with kids. TBH most ethnic women I would say aren't of the idea of waiting but until you're 30 to have kids. First of all in Arabian culture as soon as a woman hits 26 she's seen as expired. Hard facts. That's why most girls aspire to marry younger in such cultures,cos you don't want to Be left with no proposals or no chance of having kids ever in your life. In the west you guys don't really have this concept so it may also be a reason why as to women don't mind never having kids or having them really late ? Possibly
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    (Original post by MrDystopia)
    Indeed. It's why I don't get the 'erosion of culture' thing when you consider not everyone who is not white considers themselves foreign. I'm with you in asserting that I am culturally British, despite the brown skin.
    This is precisely what people are complaining, like it or not, Britain is a region and race is a regional adaption. This dilutes and obscures the word, furthermore, I dare say that you have a traditions and or customs you celebrate with your family that are decidedly not British, again calling yourself British is tantamount to the destruction of the word and culture it entails. I am not British, but, as an Irishman it find it offensive and deeply insulting when some second generation migrant from half way around the world claims my national heritage and racial differences amd culture are so meaningless and idiosyncratic to what we are that they take the word we use to define ourselves and change it's meaning to suit their wants.

    In the same right, Africans, Asians etc. can and do get rightfully offended when some white European claims they are African or Chinese etc. despite the glaring differences. I think a lot of Brits feel the same way.
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    (Original post by karl pilkington)
    Huge change! but that's life sweetie. We all have to go through change.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Huge change! but that's life sweetie. We all have to go through change.
    Erm no we don't have to China and Japan have managed to prevent it pretty easily.
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