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    (Original post by orderofthelotus)
    Bad, bad excuse for whatever load of bull that was.



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    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    I bet your ideal world is a free-for-all right?

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    Yeah it is.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    You said westerners need to make more of an effort to interact with burqa & niqab wearers. I merely said that the same must surely also apply the other way. Do you claim otherwise?
    When did I say that westerners must interact with Burka wearers? Anyways, a westerner can also be wearing a Burka stupid.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    It wasn't a student, it was a visitor to the school.
    The issue is pretty simple - are visitors on school premises allowed to wear masks, or not?
    They are not but this is different as this is done for religious reasons. You can't just ask someone to take off their religious clothing it makes you come of as paranoid.This should only be done when the person is acting suspicious not for any random person who is acting normally. Even then, it has to been done with certainty.
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Of course people should be allowed to wear a burqa or niqab - except in situations where covering the face is restricted.
    We can just make other ways to see if they're suspicious.
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    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    If you want more freedom than already exists, you should also be prepared to accept the end to all PC BS.

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    Not I'm not demanding more freedom in the UK, as ours is almost perfect. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with being politically correct either. It's only bad when it's completely over the top.
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    (Original post by HotDetermination)
    They are not but this is different as this is done for religious reasons. You can't just ask someone to take off their religious clothing it makes you come of as paranoid.This should only be done when the person is acting suspicious not for any random person who is acting normally. Even then, it has to been done with certainty.
    It's cultural and not religious. Anyway, why should that make a difference? Culture and religion shouldn't be an excuse to behave badly or be granted special rights. Everybody is equal and everybody has to obey the rules


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    (Original post by EternalLight)
    Just to make it absolutely clear in case you're getting the wrong impression I do not support female circumcision at all. It's harmful and leads to problems but the argument here is if someone wants to do x and y do their bodies as an adult, why should they not be allowed to? If at the end of the day it is their body and they are harming nobody else.
    No! No, and thrice no.

    You said...
    "The point is some Muslimahs do want to cover their face as part of their religion so the freedom of religion should allow that."

    The point wasn't whether some things are inherently more or less acceptable than others, or whether people have autonomy over their own bodies.
    It was whether simply "wanting to do it as part of their religion" is a legitimate justification for doing something.
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    (Original post by EternalLight)
    Which I categorically disagree with. In fact I don't even think males should be circumcised before they are 18. It should be their choice to make as an adult.
    So "freedom of religion" can be trumped by other concerns.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    (Your post has been reported by the way).
    How can you tell? o.o
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    (Original post by QE2)
    No! No, and thrice no.

    You said...
    "The point is some Muslimahs do want to cover their face as part of their religion so the freedom of religion should allow that."

    The point wasn't whether some things are inherently more or less acceptable than others.
    It was whether simply "wanting to do it as part of their religion" is ever a legitimate justification for it.
    Yes. The freedom of religion is not an absolute right. We've all seen the abuse which every religion has perpetrated due to the deference society has had. The Catholic sex abuse was only able to happen because nobody was allowed to question anything. Too much power and too much money with tax breaks.

    Nobody else is allowed to cover their entire face, so why should one group has that privilege? The head scarf is always an option. I get the feeling that some just want to wear the burka to piss people off and get attention.


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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
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    Oh. Jazakallah khair, brother.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    PRSOM :rofl:

    (Your post has been reported by the way). In b4 this post is also reported.
    We'll go down together! :rip:
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    (Original post by orderofthelotus)
    Oh. Jazakallah khair, brother.
    Mashaytan ukhti.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Mashaytan ukhti.
    Oh my god :rofl:
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    (Original post by orderofthelotus)
    I said something like this once and I swear it was 30 seconds before I got The PM.
    I wait with baited breath.

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    I dont even get why this has got to be discussed.....so you can criticize people and prove the rest of you are correct???
    What has this world come to......
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    (Original post by ImReady!)
    I dont even get why this has got to be discussed.....so you can criticize people and prove the rest of you are correct???
    What has this world come to......
    I know. People never discuss anything in real life. It's so unusual to actually...talk about issues.


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    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    Maybe if you don't like discussions, don't come to the ****ing 'Debate and current affairs' forum.

    I will do whats better for me and not you
    so avoid telling me what to do
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    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    Well look at you acting high and mighty, coming to complain on a debate forum...about debating lmao. Whatever floats your boat sweetie xxx
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