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Public figures/icons/stars vs. the Cancer and Dementia pandemics: the new normal? watch

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    There is no question that these diseases are affecting more people, and claiming more lives, than ever before. We see evidence of this not just in the macro health stats for cancer and dementia but every day in the news media. Cancer is by far and away the leading cause of death in the UK and dementia has now risen to number two in England and Wales. Cancer also accounts, by now, for over 4 in 10 premature deaths, and that is in spite of significant advances in treatment and diagnosis


    In the last week the much loved and lauded mathematician Maryam Mirzakhani perished, apparently due to breast cancer, at just 40 years of age. Now we hear that US Senator John McCain has developed glioblastoma multiforme (GBM), an aggressive (almost always terminal) form of malignant brain tumour that has seen a six-fold rise in incidence in the generation since mobile phone networks went live in the UK (90s)

    In recent years, we have also learnt that Gene Wilder died due to Alzheimer’s disease, that Robin Williams, Ian McCaskill, and Andrew Sachs were suffering with dementia around the time of their deaths, and that the following souls were among those lost, often all too soon, to cancer:

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    • The husband and wife from the Wirral who were hospitalised and died within days of each other
    • Rio Ferdinand’s wife and mother
    • David Bowe
    • Alan Rickman
    • Patrick Swayze
    • Paul Newman
    • Dennis Hopper
    • Pete Postlethwaite
    • John Hurt
    • Roger Moore
    • Victoria Wood
    • Caroline Aherne
    • Terry Wogan
    • Tom Clancy
    • Ted Kennedy
    • Steve Jobs

    Public figures who are reported to be battling/have battled cancer include:

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    • Maria Menounos and her mother
    • Nelson Mandela
    • Colin Powell
    • Robert De Niro
    • Dustin Hoffman
    • Michael Douglas
    • Val Kilmer
    • Hugh Jackman
    • Mark Ruffalo
    • Ben Stiller
    • Mr. T
    • Jennifer Saunders
    • Olivia Newton-John
    • Lance Armstrong
    • Rod Stewart
    • Morrissey
    • Sheryl Crow
    • Sharon Osborne
    • Kylie Minogue

    It is deeply perturbing to see that these trends are becoming ‘the new normal’. Not least because a large and mounting body of science, along with a growing number of world-renowned health experts, increasingly points the finger firmly in the direction of anthropogenic sources of geno/neuro-toxicity. In other words, the elite appear to be content to permit mankind to render many gravely ill by way of avoidable poisoning e.g. via exposure to dietary/environmental (risk) factors of our own making

    Particularly problematic exposures include those involving air pollution from combustables (smog), heavy metals (industrial production), and chemical pesticides (agriculture/horticulture), as well as ionising (nuclear) and non-ionising electromagnetic fields (EMF) and radiation (EMR): at both high (RFR i.e. wireless mobile/data coms) and low (ELF i.e. regular alternating current live mains electricity) frequencies (‘electrosmog’)


    Big name ‘charities’, the government, and private firms appear collectively content (crony capitalist clubs) to milk disease stakeholder groups, and society more broadly, and to funnel funds into fighting fire with fire (e.g. more chemicals and radiation, as treatments), rather than focusing on earnestly exploring meaningful, sustainable, and scientifically up to date integrative prevention and recovery strategies

    It can seem premature, not to mention insensitive, to speculate as to the underlying factors in any given case as soon as we hear news of relevant illness but nevertheless I believe we should cautiously welcome related enquiries, like The Atlantic’s recent article, which at least beg the question. To me it is clear, as these stories and fresh victims of these diseases stack up by the day, that the time is now and that, if anything, this conversation is long overdue
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    Forgot to mention animals, who are just as, and in some cases more, susceptible to the diseases/disease risk factors noted above! Relatively young/healthy pets are now developing both diseases, again like never before, which should be of additional concern to us all

    News: Britain’s Got Talent winner Pudsey the dog dies after cancer battle
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Can't think why old people diseases are becoming more common
    Unfortunately most of the graph you included accounts for periods in which (relatively modest) growth in 'old people diseases' does not cover the period under scrutiny, as per the OP (i.e. further back into the past, and also projected way beyond the present). As such, it is both inappropriate and misleading, unlike the following, which you may find instructive

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    News: Jamestown K-9 officer loses battle with cancer
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    But animals are living to ages like never before!
    Perhaps you're familiar with the concept of statistical outliers (and higher propensity for variance within relatively large samples), as well as lagged effects? Perhaps you'd also like to acknowledge the above post (as a matter of intellectual honesty and integrity) :yy:
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    News: The Rolling Stones guitarist (Ronnie Wood) has opened up about his cancer scare, saying ‘by rights I shouldn’t be here’
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    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
    Karl Ernst von Baer

    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    You provided a single case of a dog dying
    Not that post, this one

    ..as evidence that animals were getting diseases 'like never before'...
    Provided an example of a popular pawed icon to have succumbed to cancer. TSRians may find plenty of evidence from concerned vets and organisations with a quick google, along with studies/charts like this:

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    Isn't the life expectancy also increasing? So more people live longer, meaning more people suffer diseases?

    Also the fact that nowadays people don't seem to care about their health, with 1/3 of adults and 1/4 children (I think, correct me if my figures are wrong) being overweight or obese (a contributing factor to some cancers). People seem to live off processed foods with little to no exercise, and loads of people smoke too.

    I agree with what you're saying, and it's kind of scary actually. I'm only 15 but I've noticed more and more people around me suffering with these diseased as I've grown up. In the past 5 years I've personally known 17 people who have had/do have cancer, whereas when I was 8 I knew 1 person with it.
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    News: Tributes pour in for father and son first responders who died less than a year apart from 9/11-related cancer
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    News: Gord Downie, Tragically Hip frontman, dies of (brain) cancer aged 53

    That a member of a band called Tragically Hip would die from a cancer increasingly associated with a fatal trendy lifestyle choice (using a mobile phone) is perhaps not without a tragic sense of irony :erm:

    Time to wake up
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    (Original post by username3484120)
    Isn't the life expectancy also increasing?
    Nope. By some measures it's plateaued and others it actually appears to be falling now, but don't worry, the elite have got the country so distracted and divided over Brexit, and hating on the (wiser) Eurosceptic older generations in particular, that no-one seems to have noticed, or much cares
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    News: AC/DC guitarist Malcolm Young dies at 64
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    I don't understand why you continue to bark up the wrong tree.

    Why not talk about scientifically accepted problems, e.g. trans-sexual fish being caused by hormones we dump into the water (birth control etc.)?

    You could link that example to our growing population of trans-genders, lowering sperm counts in men, lowering fertility rates, and reasonably suggest that there has been a large corporate cover-up.

    Why are you posting when some random celebrity dies and linking it loosely to mobile phones? It just detracts from whatever point you think you have, it looks like clutching at straws.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Unfortunately most of the graph you included accounts for periods in which (relatively modest) growth in 'old people diseases' does not cover the period under scrutiny, as per the OP (i.e. further back into the past, and also projected way beyond the present). As such, it is both inappropriate and misleading, unlike the following, which you may find instructive

    See, why not continue arguing using statistics?

    This graph of yours is interesting, why not continue here?
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    (Original post by AngeryPenguin)
    Why not talk about scientifically accepted problems
    I talk about plenty of mainstream issues, but what could be more troubling, and important, than a public health pandemic that is:

    • Staring us in the face and yet hardly any one knows about/establishment figures will talk (earnestly) about (on the record)

    • Rooted in the use of technology to which the masses grow increasingly pathologically addicted

    • Prematurely degenerating and claiming elder generations

    • Insidiously undermining, and in some cases wrecking, the health and vitality of the rest of society

    • Having similar impacts on many other forms of life (including pollinators, like [honey] bees)

    • Manifestly already liable to promote mass infertility in generations to come

    hormones we dump into the water (birth control etc)?
    Too much environmental oestrogen is no good thing but, as you may know, the impact has yet to gain any kind of consensus and, for the time being, there are relatively easy steps we can take to mitigate the impact on our own health e.g. source/filter our water sensibly. Incidentally, I have noted this in passing in discussing factors affecting the Western fertility crisis in the past

    Why are you posting when some random celebrity dies and linking it loosely to mobile phones?
    Why would I employ a multi-stranded approach entailing different points of interest/levels of (scientific/lay) accessibility in seeking to raise awareness in relation to the (covered-up) mother of all public health problems? Gee, I dunno :unsure:

    It just detracts from whatever point you think you have, it looks like clutching at straws
    Your personal experience does not justify this level of condescension and illogicality. Goodness only knows what motivates you at this point. Perhaps think you owe it to the universe to be deeply sceptical and closed minded but being objectionable won't bring her back, son
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    (Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
    But animals are living to ages like never before!
    Your Pets May Be Affected by Wi-Fi and Electronic Devices Even If You Aren’t

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    This is to be expected when people live longer - they're not dying from heart disease anymore
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    This is to be expected when people live longer - they're not dying from heart disease anymore
    Only one problem with that theory: life expectancy has now gone into reverse, and with these two diseases, along with cardiovascular complaints (also affected by EMFs: see below), among the top causes of mortality, it doesn't take a genius to figure out why that might be

    Bear in mind that the reversal of the trend goes against the grain of ever-more soft and sedentary lives, with constant advances in bioscience and medical care, and constant improvements in public norms and knowledge pertaining to health and wellness

 
 
 
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