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Poll: Should the UK bring back the death penalty?
Yes, heinous criminals have no place in society (88)
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Electric chair no soaked sponge. Dry af sponge.
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Anyway, I don't understand why people think death is the worst punishment. As I said above, I believe in giving people a chance to undo their wrongs, and they can spend their lives doing it. And if they decide not to, still it would be a life of misery in a prison, but death? it just ends, no opportunity to get better or worst. So why don't try? Because of the taxes? Come on, that's absurd.
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(Original post by ClearSky)
Agreeing until nobody listens to you when you accidentally kill someone and you get the death penalty :happy2:
Tough. You say accidentally....well, the proving who did it process is very long and if all fails and you are innocent...then at least others will sht themselves before they do anything as they know even innocent people can be finished alongside criminals. It out fear in the mind of people which is needed with these fkers around
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yes yes yes and yes
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(Original post by JordLndr)
Definitely bring it back. And life sentences should also be more common.

How is it fair for a victims life to be taken completely, but the murderer only suffers for a portion of their life?
Well said:clap2:
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(Original post by .Kekistan)
I'd say no and here are a few reasons why (some I agree with strongly, others not so much):

  • A study of the death penalty in the US has suggested that every 1/25 people, 4%, are wrongly killed and were in fact innocent.
  • It violates two human rights - specifically Article 2, "Right to life", and possibly Article 3, "Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment." (I would imagine that waiting for your death for years would be so much stress and pressure for some, dreading what will happen, that it becomes a type of mental torture.)
  • Countries that use the death penalty, like the US and others, don't appear to have a significantly lower crime rate showing that it isn't extremely effective as a deterrent. Some have even argued that it can make criminals act more violently against police, arguing that if a criminal knows they may face the death penalty they will more violently resist arrest in an attempt to escape the police.
  • Death penalty cases cost more than non-death penalty cases and they last longer and it costs more per year to have death row inmates compared to non-death row inmates in prison (source)


Despite being in opposition to the death penalty, I think harsher punishments like much longer sentences do need to be put in place for more crimes.
I am pretty sure that the murder did not care about the human rights of his/her victim so why should we care about theirs?
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I absolutely would. However, I would reject human rights laws and execute them as cheaply as possible. Hanging or drowning.
Save space in our prisons and deliver real justice to victims.

Even if evidence doesn't support the death penalty, morally, it is the perfect way to balance the scales of justice.


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(Original post by The RAR)
The waves of crimes including cyber bullying and terrorism just doesn't stop, while we can find the perpetrators they are simply let off too easily for example recently in the Amanda Todd case the blackmailer wrote a letter saying he was "innocent" which made me very angry at how he doesn't have any remorse for Amanda's death and was only sentenced for 11 years in prison this year like is this a joke? The blackmailer deserves the death penalty because people like him just don't change.
If we bring back the death penalty crimes both physical and online will drop.
So what do you guys think?
Yes absolutely bring back the death penalty. I feel very strongly about this.

I also understand the doo holders who are against it. I used to be against it.

What these people don't understand is that not everyone is civilised like they are.

There are some people that are just scum like those youths that did acid attacks on people to steal their bikes.

I think we need to start dealing with such people in the most effective way.




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(Original post by Banneduser)
Yes absolutely bring back the death penalty. I feel very strongly about this.

I also understand the doo holders who are against it. I used to be against it.

What these people don't understand is that not everyone is civilised like they are.

There are some people that are just scum like those youths that did acid attacks on people to steal their bikes.

I think we need to start dealing with such people in the most effective way.




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Exactly! Some people just never change so rather than wasting money to feed them in prison just get rid of them in the most efficient way.
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Hell, no. The very idea of returning to the days where people were strung-up in prisons in this country makes me pretty sick to my stomach.

(Original post by SCIENCE :D)
Only for serial killers in my opinion. Where there is 100% solid proof that they have killed more than one person.
The standard of proof for a criminal conviction in this country is that it must be demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt. That is a high bar, but virtually no conviction could ever be 100% demonstrated. Even at the current high level, there are still miscarriages of justice.

(Original post by JordLndr)
Definitely bring it back. And life sentences should also be more common.

How is it fair for a victims life to be taken completely, but the murderer only suffers for a portion of their life?
There is only one available sentence for murder, given in all convictions: a life sentence.
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(Original post by Banneduser)
What these people don't understand is that not everyone is civilised like they are.
(Original post by The RAR)
Exactly! Some people just never change so rather than wasting money to feed them in prison just get rid of them in the most efficient way.
It is not civilised to 'dispose' of humans. If you do, how are you better than them?
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Killing people as punishment for killing people. It's fine when we do it. They're the bad guys, you see; they killed people.
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Yes it should be, I don't know why so many people are so Squeamish about it.
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Let's see, kill them or let them play XBOX for the rest of their sentence, whilst getting free 3 meals a day and a pool table
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Yes, I would have capital punishment & full life prison sentences brought back for the following
- Murder offenses (though mainly for serial killers, killers of under 18s, terrorists offenses that result in murder, arson/manslaughter acts which result in murder, killers of police and army/navy/air force officers)
- Rape offenses (though mainly the most horrid of rapists who rape under 18s)

In addition I would also introduce a three strikes rule for violent crimes.

I would have this for England and Wales as I think those nations are where the demand is highest for it. Scotland elects too many liberal (that's including Scottish Conservative) politicians to even consider debating it and **** knows if Sinn Fein and SDLP would vote alongside the DUP on this at Stormont.
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(Original post by RogerOxon)
It is not civilised to 'dispose' of humans. If you do, how are you better than them?
Of course is not civilised to dispose of normal humans, but fine to dispose of scummy humans
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(Original post by The RAR)
Of course is not civilised to dispose of normal humans, but fine to dispose of scummy humans
Should that be a defense for murder then?!

Murder is murder - state-endorsed or otherwise.
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Yes for cold blooded murderers, pedos (proper pedos who have sex with someone who is preadolescent, acid throwers also. Blackmaikers im not sure about - jail time may be more appropriate.
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(Original post by SCIENCE :D)
Only for serial killers in my opinion. Where there is 100% solid proof that they have killed more than one person.
You can never prove any crime with 100% certainty.

Maybe we should look at a criminal justice system that actually reduces reoffending and try and copy that
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So many stupid people in one thread... The state is no better than the perpetrators of these heinous crimes if it uses the death penalty. It's been shown that the capital punishment isn't an effective deterrent, so what purpose does it really serve? It's also a common misconception that the death penalty is cheaper than life imprisonment- a quick google search will tell you that.

Do you proponents of the death penalty believe that perpetrators of evil crimes are incapable of reform? Smh
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