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    (Original post by Shaanv)
    Is step purely for maths or is there any courses which it would benefit to have done STEP.

    For example i want to do engineering and am wondering if STEP will be beneficial to me in any way.

    Thanks
    I know that Christ's College Cambridge always ask for a 1 in STEP 1 as part of their offer, but other than that its not a requirement
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    (Original post by 123Master321)
    Ok then, you have plenty of time if you stay focused, BMO1 stuff is definitely going to be useful then(dont look at the solutions if you can help it). I took STEP 1 in Year 12, taking it in Year 11 might be quite a lot of work with GCSE's and all but definitely possible. For BMO1, only try it if you can realistically qualify through the SMC, otherwise doing the Intermediate Olympiad would be a good build up. Given you have ages till STEP, I may as well list a few more resources, artofproblemsolving.com is a great site and the contests page has the AMC10/12, in terms of difficulty AMC 12 is way harder than SMC but also has further maths stuff(complex numbers, etc) so that could be useful.

    To be honest, given you have started so early, doing actual Step questions is probably not worth it now(unless you can already do them!!) and you want to learn how to think through UKMT stuff.
    Yeah, BMO1 seems to be the most useful. Last year I sat the SMC and got a Bronze reward (which is nothing compared to STEP) however I'll have another go at it this November and hopefully qualify for BMO1 (I'm much better than what I was back then and plus I've been reading some books on number theory, modular arithmetic, etc. so finger's crossed it helps!). And thanks a lot for the resources - I googled it and AMC 12 looks like to be good practice for future Maths but as you said, it'll require FM stuff so I'll need to finish off FM first.
    I agree there's no point starting STEP questions now - I've gone through many past papers and only solved 2 problems from all the past papers so I have a huge road to go! I'm getting started on UKMT all the way from JMC (and will do every question of every tier until I make it to BMO). Thanks a lot for the help!!
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    (Original post by thekidwhogames)
    Yeah, BMO1 seems to be the most useful. Last year I sat the SMC and got a Bronze reward (which is nothing compared to STEP) however I'll have another go at it this November and hopefully qualify for BMO1 (I'm much better than what I was back then and plus I've been reading some books on number theory, modular arithmetic, etc. so finger's crossed it helps!). And thanks a lot for the resources - I googled it and AMC 12 looks like to be good practice for future Maths but as you said, it'll require FM stuff so I'll need to finish off FM first.
    I agree there's no point starting STEP questions now - I've gone through many past papers and only solved 2 problems from all the past papers so I have a huge road to go! I'm getting started on UKMT all the way from JMC (and will do every question of every tier until I make it to BMO). Thanks a lot for the help!!
    Last point personally, I think the artofproblemsolving.com system is a lot better than the UKMT at teaching olympiad style maths(they have great books on it and start from the real basics to high level IMO training courses) and its a lot more organised, so you could try that.
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    (Original post by 123Master321)
    Last point personally, I think the artofproblemsolving.com system is a lot better than the UKMT at teaching olympiad style maths(they have great books on it and start from the real basics to high level IMO training courses) and its a lot more organised, so you could try that.
    Alright I will use them a lot! Thanks so much!
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    Anyone got any advice? I've been doing the STEP foundation modules and have been struggling a bit. I'm willing to put in as much time as necessary but don't really know how to proceed and how to get better!
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    (Original post by benjaminfinch)
    Anyone got any advice? I've been doing the STEP foundation modules and have been struggling a bit. I'm willing to put in as much time as necessary but don't really know how to proceed and how to get better!
    What year are you going into
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    (Original post by Shaanv)
    Is step purely for maths or is there any courses which it would benefit to have done STEP.

    For example i want to do engineering and am wondering if STEP will be beneficial to me in any way.

    Thanks
    Some Cambridge Colleges may ask for a 1 in STEP I for Engineering (Christs, Peterhouse do usually/sometimes respectively). STEP I will have a small but useful benefit for Engineers, but other than that and whether it's worth skimping on A-Level revision to focus on STEP when you don't need to, I'm entirely convinced it's the most useful preparation you can do for an Engineering degree.
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    (Original post by thekidwhogames)
    Yeah that makes sense, I will follow that. I'm actually going into year 11 but I love Maths but now I realize that I have a huge road to drive to get to the world of STEP. I'm planning on sitting the Maths a levels this year and then try STEP in year 12 or if by a miracle, this June. I saved up my birthday money for the last 2 years and I'm going to get tuition for STEP (a lot of it haha). Thanks for the help!
    Think long and hard before spending your money on STEP tuition, I personally think it's a waste of money and defeats the point of STEP a little, but YMMV -- I suspect you're giving STEP more importance than it's due. It's purpose is as an admissions tool; at your stage, you have a lot more useful things to do to help improve your mathematical ability rather than overly focusing on STEP.
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    (Original post by 123Master321)
    What year are you going into
    Just going into Y13
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    (Original post by thekidwhogames)
    Yeah that makes sense, I will follow that. I'm actually going into year 11 but I love Maths but now I realize that I have a huge road to drive to get to the world of STEP. I'm planning on sitting the Maths a levels this year and then try STEP in year 12 or if by a miracle, this June. I saved up my birthday money for the last 2 years and I'm going to get tuition for STEP (a lot of it haha). Thanks for the help!
    You don't need tuition, it may actively harm you, the way to practice is to think through the problems slow and steady. If the answers are presented you're like 'cool that makes sense' which is not the same as 'I did that, could do it again' which you get from battling with a problem. To get into it I reccommend these https://maths.org/step/assignments or Siklos Advanced Problems in Core mathematics. I'll be sitting in 2018 if i get an offer (big if) and these are really good resources.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Think long and hard before spending your money on STEP tuition, I personally think it's a waste of money and defeats the point of STEP a little, but YMMV -- I suspect you're giving STEP more importance than it's due. It's purpose is as an admissions tool; at your stage, you have a lot more useful things to do to help improve your mathematical ability rather than overly focusing on STEP.


    Ah yeah just realised that's true - tuition doesn't improve problem solving so it's pointless for STEP. In that case I may use it to learn theorems and FM A level modules in that case. Thanks for the advice!
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    Okay reason i am writing here is I need reassurance. I am starting year 13, have been trying step1 modules from cambridge's site, did first 10 so still have a lot to do. Do you guys tgink I can do this? I am kind of stressing because I have maths f.maths physics, my school is kind of bad with these kind of stuff as in they have no prep whatsoever the only maths teacher who knows and can help about this stuff is like a ghost seriously the guy is impossible to find when you need him and also I am preparing for MAT which I went to problem solving matters in imperial (if anybody is going there?)... I am just panicking!!!!
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    (Original post by norkop)
    Okay reason i am writing here is I need reassurance. I am starting year 13, have been trying step1 modules from cambridge's site, did first 10 so still have a lot to do. Do you guys tgink I can do this? I am kind of stressing because I have maths f.maths physics, my school is kind of bad with these kind of stuff as in they have no prep whatsoever the only maths teacher who knows and can help about this stuff is like a ghost seriously the guy is impossible to find when you need him and also I am preparing for MAT which I went to problem solving matters in imperial (if anybody is going there?)... I am just panicking!!!!
    It's very early still, there's absolute no need to panic at this stage. Your progress at the moment sounds fine and you're more than on track.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    It's very early still, there's absolute no need to panic at this stage. Your progress at the moment sounds fine and you're more than on track.
    Thank you!
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    Can someone help me with q4 of specimen 1987 paper 1.
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    (Original post by STRANGER2)
    Can someone help me with q4 of specimen 1987 paper 1.
    Can you be more specific...? Using u = x^2 +2x-2 or u=x+1 seems helpful at first glance, if you note the quadratic can be written as (x+1)^2 - 3.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Can you be more specific...? Using u = x^2 +2x-2 or u=x+1 seems helpful at first glance, if you note the quadratic can be written as (x+1)^2 - 3.
    How do you deal with infinity as a limit.
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    (Original post by STRANGER2)
    How do you deal with infinity as a limit.
    The obvious way: if u = f(x) then the limit of the u-subbed integral is u = f(1) and u = \lim_{x \to \infty} f(x). This is a bit hand wavy, but we can usually justify it with regard to u-subs generally being diffeomorphisms and taking limits in the extended reals; but nothing to worry about at this stage, it should be intuitively obvious.
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    Subscribing.
    Also a biiiig shout out to the STEP Support Programme (link in Zacken's op).
    Just finishing up the foundation modules and I've found it to be a great help already.
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    (Original post by carpetguy)
    Subscribing.
    Also a biiiig shout out to the STEP Support Programme (link in Zacken's op).
    Just finishing up the foundation modules and I've found it to be a great help already.
    how long did it take to complete the foundation modules?
 
 
 
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