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B1240 - Cars (Restriction) Bill 2017 Watch

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    (Original post by TitanCream)
    So we ban cars and push people into public transport = More delays, more waiting times, more trainss/buses needed out = More pollution....
    Bans under this Bill would be short term. Better of course to prevent pollution and a high carbon footprint in the first place. No need for 4x4s to climb the hill in Highgate or gas gizzlers to satisfy men wiho are small in one area.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Bans under this Bill would be short term. Better of course to prevent pollution and a high carbon footprint in the first place. No need for 4x4s to climb the hill in Highgate or gas gizzlers to satisfy men wiho are small in one area.
    Four-wheel-drive cars and gas guzzlers are the minority of cars on the road, the majority are small, fuel efficient city cars. This bill removes transport for large parts of the population when air pollution gets a little high.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Four-wheel-drive cars and gas guzzlers are the minority of cars on the road, the majority are small, fuel efficient city cars. This bill removes transport for large parts of the population when air pollution gets a little high.
    Except it actually prevent people from making conditions worse. This bill is for people's health - not for convenience.
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    (Original post by TitanCream)
    So we ban cars and push people into public transport = More delays, more waiting times, more trains/buses needed out = More pollution....
    Except trains and buses are considerably more environmentally friendly than anything else you might drive.
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    Except it actually prevent people from making conditions worse. This bill is for people's health - not for convenience.
    As public transport does not exist in some areas this bill could prevent student sitting important exams, doctors getting to work, on-call emergency service workers driving to the station, pupils not being taken to school, single parents in desperate need of money not being able to go to work to do their shift, children being forced to walk home in the dark when a taxi or a lift from a parents would be used, a husband taking his pregnant wife in labour to a hospital, the list continues. Not containing a section for exceptions is inexcusable stubbornness from the writers of this bill who do not like valid criticism of their bill.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    As public transport does not exist in some areas this bill could prevent student sitting important exams, doctors getting to work, on-call emergency service workers driving to the station, pupils not being taken to school, single parents in desperate need of money not being able to go to work to do their shift, children being forced to walk home in the dark when a taxi or a lift from a parents would be used, a husband taking his pregnant wife in labour to a hospital, the list continues. Not containing a section for exceptions is inexcusable stubbornness from the writers of this bill who do not like valid criticism of their bill.
    Except this bill will be used in an emergency only. So actually - exams can be postponed etc. It also will pretty much only be used in urban areas where there will be significant public transport links - which is why the author of this bill doesn't take criticism that isn't actually valid.
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    Except this bill will be used in an emergency only. So actually - exams can be postponed etc. It also will pretty much only be used in urban areas where there will be significant public transport links - which is why the author of this bill doesn't take criticism that isn't actually valid.
    You cannot postpone when women give birth, when a doctor is needed, or when an emergency happens that need all emergency service workers on call. To dismiss the criticism is wrong because in urban areas there could strikes on public transport which cannot end because this bill makes no provision of ending strikes, and public transport could not be frequent. It is is easy to say frequency can be increased but extra drivers, vehicles, and trains may not exist to increase the frequency. As this bill applies to Wales, if Cardiff had a day of high pollution, there could be no frequency increases in public transport because the earliest Arriva Trains could obtain more trains to ease congestion on the local commuting routes which regularly turns passengers away is 2018; the same applies to the commuting routes in Exeter where there is congestion. And you ignore the points about emergency service workers, I doubt you expect on-call fireman, police men, and doctors to queue up waiting for infrequent public transport to get to their place of work.
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    (Original post by Afcwimbledon2)
    Except this bill will be used in an emergency only. So actually - exams can be postponed etc. It also will pretty much only be used in urban areas where there will be significant public transport links - which is why the author of this bill doesn't take criticism that isn't actually valid.
    There could be agreed exemptions for doctors and health workers. In reality I would expect them to be a very small percentage.
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    Order! This bill is in cessation.
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    This bill has gone to second reading.
 
 
 
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