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    Was just wondering, with the A level reform, will Cambridge still be asking for UMS scores in AS levels? If, obviously, you took them. Will they still ask for the SAQ, and will it be scrapped due to the reform (e.g. will it still be available for 2018, 2019 entry)?
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    Was just wondering, with the A level reform, will Cambridge still be asking for UMS scores in AS levels? If, obviously, you took them. Will they still ask for the SAQ, and will it be scrapped due to the reform (e.g. will it still be available for 2018, 2019 entry)?
    We will continue to ask for UMS from AS levels if you have it.Reformed AS levels don't provide UMS (raw marks are not the same), nor do internal exams so we will only really have UMS for candidates taking unreformed AS levels, mostly from Wales and Northern Ireland (depending on exam board) or those who took their exams before the change.
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    Was just wondering, with the A level reform, will Cambridge still be asking for UMS scores in AS levels? If, obviously, you took them. Will they still ask for the SAQ, and will it be scrapped due to the reform (e.g. will it still be available for 2018, 2019 entry)?
    I would add that the SAQ has a fair bit more to it than just UMS scores, that's only a small section of one page and I'd certainly imagine it will continue to be used. Peterhouse Admissions
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    I would add that the SAQ has a fair bit more to it than just UMS scores, that's only a small section of one page and I'd certainly imagine it will continue to be used. Peterhouse Admissions
    Yes, the SAQ is very important and gives us a lot more information than we can get from the UCAS form - things like whether you had any teaching difficulties, were able to take the subjects you wanted, how you keep up your interest, what your class sizes are etc. etc.
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    Was just wondering, with the A level reform, will Cambridge still be asking for UMS scores in AS levels? If, obviously, you took them. Will they still ask for the SAQ, and will it be scrapped due to the reform (e.g. will it still be available for 2018, 2019 entry)?
    As above, and the 2018 SAQ will be available here soon:

    https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/applying/saq

    PS. I've moved your thread to the Cambridge forum

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    (Original post by Peterhouse Admissions)
    We will continue to ask for UMS from AS levels if you have it.Reformed AS levels don't provide UMS (raw marks are not the same), nor do internal exams so we will only really have UMS for candidates taking unreformed AS levels, mostly from Wales and Northern Ireland (depending on exam board) or those who took their exams before the change.
    If applicants take the reformed AS levels, will they have to enter the raw marks on the SAQ (instead of UMS)?
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    If applicants take the reformed AS levels, will they have to enter the raw marks on the SAQ (instead of UMS)?
    No
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    If applicants take the reformed AS levels, will they have to enter the raw marks on the SAQ (instead of UMS)?
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    No
    Although some colleges do seem to request it separately. Or at least they did in the 2017/18 cycle.
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    My understanding is that not all candidates receive raw marks, but that might be wrong. Applicants (or more likely) teachers are welcome to mention raw marks or send them unsolicited, just as they are with any other information. Whether you do or don't won't increase or decrease your chances of admission.
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    (Original post by Peterhouse Admissions)
    My understanding is that not all candidates receive raw marks, but that might be wrong. Applicants (or more likely) teachers are welcome to mention raw marks or send them unsolicited, just as they are with any other information. Whether you do or don't won't increase or decrease your chances of admission.
    I would have thought they'd received UMS marks anyway, even with the reformed AS levels. Or at least raw marks...?
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    (Original post by Peterhouse Admissions)
    My understanding is that not all candidates receive raw marks, but that might be wrong. Applicants (or more likely) teachers are welcome to mention raw marks or send them unsolicited, just as they are with any other information. Whether you do or don't won't increase or decrease your chances of admission.
    Checking with Compost on this but afaik the schools do get raw marks.

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    I would have thought they'd received UMS marks anyway, even with the reformed AS levels. Or at least raw marks...?
    There's a significant difference between raw and UMS. They aren't directly comparable, and no there's no UMS for reformed subjects.
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    I would have thought they'd received UMS marks anyway, even with the reformed AS levels. Or at least raw marks...?
    Linear qualifications (e.g. the reformed A levels) do not have UMS marks. The secure download of results to schools generally only includes the overall grade for linear qualifications though Edexcel did manage to give the student's total mark for ASs last year and I believe OCR may also manage it this year (for A levels and AS). However, schools (teachers and the exam officers) can access more information from the exam board secure sites. This generally goes right down to how much a candidate scored on each question and certainly contains the total score for each paper sat.
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    Ah I see, so could you still put the raw marks at AS in the SAQ to make your application more competitive? Or would that go in the teacher ucas reference (Peterhouse Admissions)
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    So what will Cambridge look at if you don't have AS levels with A level reforms?
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    So what will Cambridge look at if you don't have AS levels with A level reforms?
    Your entire application, the same as they already do with IB and Scottish applicants for example, and as they did before AS-levels were introduced a few years ago. They have literally 100s of years of experience of assessing applicants... and they spend hours on each applicant.

    In addition most courses have at- or pre-interview assessments, and also the interview itself.

    So long as you are realistically on target to achieve the course entry requirements it's likely you will be interviewed. They interview approx 75% of applicants.

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    Your entire application, the same as they already do with IB and Scottish applicants for example, and as they did before AS-levels were introduced a few years ago. They have literally 100s of years of experience of assessing applicants... and they spend hours on each applicant.

    In addition most courses have at- or pre-interview assessments, and also the interview itself.

    So long as you are realistically on target to achieve the course entry requirements it's likely you will be interviewed. They interview approx 75% of applicants.

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    Good to know Gives me a lot of breathing space
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    (Original post by Scriptzer)
    Ah I see, so could you still put the raw marks at AS in the SAQ to make your application more competitive? Or would that go in the teacher ucas reference (Peterhouse Admissions)
    Do not enter raw marks as if there were UMS - the most appropriate place for them is in the teacher reference or you could send the statement of results separately by post. However, we're very aware of the fact that only those who have done well will be drawing attention to it and giving/not giving AS raw marks won't affect your chances of admission. We don't yet have any evidence that reformed AS results correlate with even A level results, never mind exam performance at university.
 
 
 
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