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Poll: Is the British Empire something to be proud of?
The British Empire is something to be proud of (49)
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The British Empire is something to be ashamed of (45)
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A YouGov poll shows that 59% of Britons think that the British Empire is something to be proud of. 19% see it as something to be ashamed of. 22% of those who were surveyed don't know.

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It should be "partially yes, partially not". You can't seriously just answer yes/no to this question.
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To an extent, but there’s also lessons to be learned. Overall I think it did much more good than bad especially considering it’s impact on how today’s world is. The EU and America are both products of evolved British values
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In my opinion I dont think we can be proud nor ashamed. Society/the world has changed so much since the British empire. So can we really give a valid opinion?
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Partially yes, partially not. You can't seriously just answer yes/no to this questions.
Exactly. It's as simplistic a question as 'Should we remain in the EU or leave the EU'. There's so much nuance required to answer a question like this.
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To an extent, but there’s also lessons to be learned. Overall I think it did much more good than bad especially considering it’s impact on how today’s world is. The EU and America are both products of evolved British values
Out of curiosity how is America a by product of evolved British values?
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Exactly. It's as simplistic a question as 'Should we remain in the EU or leave the EU'. There's so much nuance required to answer a question like this.
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[Is it a coincidence that I always make a grammatical/typographical mistake when you're quoting me? :colondollar:]
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I'd say that The British were somewhat 'imperially forced' into empire and expansion, through rivalry etc. But if you look at the huge advancements from trading with countries like india, to controlling vast swathes, the British Empire could be described as 'impressive', and for that impressive expansion to go from what essentially was piracy, to political emporment overseas, it would be hard not to be 'proud' of that feat. This however does not take into account the negative sides of empire, however if the question is merely one of ' Is the British empire something to be proud of', then in this sense, it would be hard not to be. Overall? Well it's not a clear cut bag, but I'm my opinion the quick thinking of the British, outmanoeuvring rivals and expanding from a small island to controlling a third of the world, is too impressive to deny.
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PRSOM

[Is it a coincidence that I always make a grammatical/typographical mistake when you're quoting me? :colondollar:]
OMG - seriously, I do the same with you! I always seem to have to go back and re-edit. Is it because we both did Law, and those old strictures of making sure your writing is perfect (and never mis-spelling words like 'commission', 'omission' etc)..
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I am personally extremely proud of the British Empire.
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If you want to be proud of something that resulted in many wars, famines, abuse of natives, millions of deaths, seizure of other countries' resources and assets, dividing populations and pitting them against each other, etc. Then I don't see why not
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No. Imperialism is fundamentally wrong.
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Even as a non-brit it is something that should make the brits proud...

I somewhat support colonialism but there are many arguments I could make against it
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OMG - seriously, I do the same with you! I always seem to have to go back and re-edit. Is it because we both did Law, and those old strictures of making sure your writing is perfect (and never mis-spelling words like 'commission', 'omission' etc)..
I am certain law makes everyone obsessive on this!! (not that I complain though )

It's a shame TSR doesn't edit through quoted texts!
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If you want to be proud of something that resulted in many wars, famines, abuse of natives, millions of deaths, seizure of other countries' resources and assets, dividing populations and pitting them against each other, etc. Then I don't see why not
Yes I am proud of humans
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I am personally extremely proud of the British Empire.
And why is that you feel extremely proud of an empire, which is literally built upon exploiting those who have a different skin colour/religion?

If you're personally proud of the British empire, I hope you are proud of the estimated 2,100,000 Indians who died from no food, as a result of British exploitation of crops.

You must love how the British built railways around India! No, not for the Indian people. It was so that transport links could be established so that grain and spices could be exported more easily.

You must surely be proud of the Amritsar Massacre, in which 300+ peaceful protesters were murdered for absolutely no reason.

You must love how the British Empire acted as a parasite upon India, in which India's share of the world's income went from 24% to just 4%.

The British did more harm than good. 300+ years of the British empire has done an incredible deal of damage.
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100% We the British did what was natural, to expand and to rule but we just did it the best, if given the chance pretty much all countries would have done the same. Sure we can recognize the atrocities but we need to recognize the advancements and sheer power of the Empire, think of all of the technological advancements that happened thanks to the British Empire and everything it caused.
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And why is that you feel extremely proud of an empire, which is literally built upon exploiting those who have a different skin colour/religion?

If you're personally proud of the British empire, I hope you are proud of the estimated 2,100,000 Indians who died from no food, as a result of British exploitation of crops.

You must love how the British built railways around India! No, not for the Indian people. It was so that transport links could be established so that grain and spices could be exported more easily.

You must surely be proud of the Amritsar Massacre, in which 300+ peaceful protesters were murdered for absolutely no reason.

You must love how the British Empire acted as a parasite upon India, in which India's share of the world's income went from 24% to just 4%.

The British did more harm than good. 300+ years of the British empire has done an incredible deal of damage.
Ever googled what the positives of the british empire to all nations were?
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(Original post by Spratty)
And why is that you feel extremely proud of an empire, which is literally built upon exploiting those who have a different skin colour/religion?

If you're personally proud of the British empire, I hope you are proud of the estimated 2,100,000 Indians who died from no food, as a result of British exploitation of crops.

You must love how the British built railways around India! No, not for the Indian people. It was so that transport links could be established so that grain and spices could be exported more easily.

You must surely be proud of the Amritsar Massacre, in which 300+ peaceful protesters were murdered for absolutely no reason.

You must love how the British Empire acted as a parasite upon India, in which India's share of the world's income went from 24% to just 4%.

The British did more harm than good. 300+ years of the British empire has done an incredible deal of damage.


No one is saying "I am really glad we killed millions of indians"
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