Is £17 000 a year expensive for a good school?

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I can think of no better way of spending money than on education. Where would you propose the money is "needed"?

Also lots of them were only children whose parents made sacrifices (no holidays, cars and generally living frugally) in order to scrape enough money to send them there.

I think you answered your own question here.

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04MR17

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Original post by Doonesbury

How is this an "everyday issue"?

Educational debate instead? :dontknow:

Original post by lukerules1234

Without going into detail, that's how much my school costs. It's one of the best schools in the country (top 10) yet compared to other 'high end' private schools quite inexpensive in my humble opinion. Thoughts?

My thoughts are that your own personal attitude is more important than what school you go to.

If an economically-disadvantaged pupil had clear goals for a career and made logical steps towards achieving that then they'd have an advantage over someone from a top ten in the UK private school who didn't know where they were going in life.

When on an equal footing over attitude, the more inflated budget of a prestigious private school would be an advantage to that pupil over an average state comprehensive pupil form a deprived area. Connections, as someone else mentioned, are also relevant here.

Those are my thoughts.

Reply 42

username3441700

Original post by lukerules1234

Nahh its not, my old day school before i went to boarding school was like 21k a year soo it's a good deal imo. Especially if its in the top 10

(edited 6 years ago)

Reply 43

04MR17

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Original post by SophieSmall

If they're getting bursaries/ scholarships then they're not paying 17k. So that's irrelevant.

But this person isn't. Hence the thread is about the fees. If OP was on a scholarship, they would have logically mentioned it. The OP specifically stated "that's how much my school costs".

Reply 44

username3441700

Original post by Tootles

That's actually what I was thinking. You got poor little rich kids with their education costing £17k/an when my state education was perfectly good. They could be putting that money where it's needed.

Where would you suggest that money goes to otherwise? Shouldnt people be able to decide how to spend their money?

Reply 45

username1801813

the question has been answered but I don't really understand the relevance of it; whether it's expensive or not (which it is, obviously) it is your reality. You should be looking to take advantage of this opportunity you're fortunate enough to have instead of considering the expense of it, let your parents or whoever's putting this on the table worry about that.

Reply 46

CitiKONIECPOLSKI

Absolutely, no school and I mean absolutely no school is really worth this much money. I can say this as someone who has spent a year of exchange at the age of 16 at one of the most expensive schools in the world in Switzerland.

Reply 47

username1801813

Original post by CitiKONIECPOLSKI

okay lets say you go to this school for 5 years, which would mean 17k*5=85k
you end up going to ox-bridge and later land yourself in a high paying job, like 6 figures, which definitely isn't beyond the realms of possibility for ox-bridge grads.

So if as a consequence of going to this private school you go to ox-bridge and get a, say, 100k p/a job, at that stage - surely it'd be worth it - no?

Reply 48

CitiKONIECPOLSKI

Original post by hamzakalinle

In your model, the most important variable is missing.

Parents / connections who are able to get you that mythical 100k p/a job (or even 50k) upon graduation. These are essentially the same people who were able to pay for that expensive school in the first place, so was that expensive school really necessary?

The vast majority of Oxbridge students are earning like 30k upon graduation, and you can browse through the TSR threads about unemployed NatScis from Oxbridge (I've even seen an unemployed 2:1 MechEng from UCL on TSR).

Reply 49

Kvothe the Arcane

Yes. Do you at least get access to good music tuition and sporting facilities?

Reply 50

username1801813

Original post by CitiKONIECPOLSKI

nah I wasn't talking about immediately upon graduation, obviously no-one is going to be walking into a 100k p/a job at 22/23, like I said I meant down the line, at least 3 years down the line.

lmao it wasn't "mythical", it's called speaking hypothetically.

Connections can be made at unis like oxbridge, so if getting into oxbridge opens up serious connections that can get you top jobs, I think the investment long-term is worth it.

A parent alone isn't going to give you a great job, if that were the case they obviously wouldn't be investing over 10 grand a year if that were the case.

Reply 51

jkls92

Original post by Danny the Geezer

I would. Some people go through their whole lives in a vacuous bubble surrounded by the same middle-peers throughout education and employment, and sadly life isn't a fairy-tale - you sometimes have to associate with the hoi polloi (: But it'd have to be a "good" comprehensive, I left one (which was a pretty rough one) due to bullying, but if it was somewhere which wasn't quite so "inner-city" then yeah why not? Even if I was well off I would not pay such stupid ammounts of money on something which is essentially arbitrary at university when the playing field becomes level,

Hoi is an article ("the"), no need to repeat it.

Reply 52

jkls92

Original post by SophieSmall

Lol that's more than double what I live off in a year. The only people who aren't going to find that expensive are other people like yourself who are very well off.

Are you sure it includes everything? How can that cover accommodation (if you are at uni)?

Reply 53

Sae.HH

Original post by Doonesbury

So you've done the comparison yourself.

Again, why do you need a thread for this? Unless it's #HumbleBrag

He's already told you he doesn't know where to move it. If you know where it should be get it placed there. :smile:

Original post by hamzakalinle

The issue with that is the "as a consequence"... there are more state school pupils at Oxbridge than private. It's not a requirement to go private to get into Oxbridge.

Reply 56

Tootles

Original post by Boredom101

Where would you suggest that money goes to otherwise? Shouldnt people be able to decide how to spend their money?

This is where my usually capitalist thoughts give way to something a little more socialist. Yes, people have a choice how to spend their money, but when all you're paying [through the nose] for is the ability to say 'my little boy went to xxx school,' you could be doing better things with that money.

Reply 57

Reality Check

Original post by Doonesbury

So you've done the comparison yourself.

Again, why do you need a thread for this? Unless it's #HumbleBrag

Humblebrag spotted.

Reply 58

Doones

Original post by Sae.HH

He's already told you he doesn't know where to move it. If you know where it should be get it placed there. :smile:

It didn't need moving. It didn't originally need a thread at all. :smile:

Although it's now developed into a useful discussion, so it's all good...

(Educational Debate would be the place now.)

Reply 59

username1801813

Original post by Doonesbury

The issue with that is the "as a consequence"... there are more state school pupils at Oxbridge than private. It's not a requirement to go private to get into Oxbridge.

very true, but my argument was just a hypothetical one and in my scenario getting tutored at a private school leads you to ox-bridge which then leads to a high paying job. I was trying to gauge if the guy I was talking to thought if in that scenario private school is worth it, I wasn't trying to be representative of reality.