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after i hopefully graduate i would like to work in immunology but some websites say i require medicine and some say i need biomedical science. and is there a difference between a clinical immunologist and a clinical scientist in immunology?
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A clinical immunologist is a physician who has completed a medical degree and postgraduate specialty training in immunology, who works directly with patients who suffer from allergies and autoimmune diseases. A clinical scientist is a scientist who has completed a relevant bioscience degree, which may include a medical degree, and usually further postgraduate degree(s), and who works in a lab.

It's fairly cut and dried - you can do work in the broad intellectual field of immunology from either "side" but the specific nature of your role will vary depending what your background is. It's worth noting a medical doctor/physician can work as a clinical scientist in academia, and may or may not have clinical duties as any typical immunologist. A scientist with a non-medical degree will never work in diagnosing and treating patients directly, unless they go and get a medical degree after their initial degree(s).
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(Original post by artful_lounger)
A clinical immunologist is a physician who has completed a medical degree and postgraduate specialty training in immunology, who works directly with patients who suffer from allergies and autoimmune diseases. A clinical scientist is a scientist who has completed a relevant bioscience degree, which may include a medical degree, and usually further postgraduate degree(s), and who works in a lab.

It's fairly cut and dried - you can do work in the broad intellectual field of immunology from either "side" but the specific nature of your role will vary depending what your background is. It's worth noting a medical doctor/physician can work as a clinical scientist in academia, and may or may not have clinical duties as any typical immunologist. A scientist with a non-medical degree will never work in diagnosing and treating patients directly, unless they go and get a medical degree after their initial degree(s).
A Clinical Scientist is actually somebody who has completed the NHS STP (or programs that the STP succeeded). The job title of Clinical Scientist is registered with the HCPC and as such is protected. Therefore, there are no Clinical Scientist's outside the NHS, just as with Biomedical Scientist. A Clinical Scientist is somebody who has completed the STP in order to become registered with the HCPC as a Clinical Scientist and works in the NHS. You can be a registered Clinical Scientist and not work in the NHS, but your job position cannot be Clinical Scientist outside of the NHS, and yes, that means there are no Clinical Scientist's in academia. Some may refer to themselves as such, just as I met a lecture on a BSc Biomedical Science course whom referred to herself as a Biomedical Scientist. This lecturer did not have HCPC registration as a Biomedical Scientist and was actually committing an offence each time she stated as such.

The quote also says that those without a medical degree will never diagnose patients, this is not true and is partly where Clinical Scientist's come in. They provide specialist knowledge in certain areas. Doctor's are renowned for having a limited knowledge of the ongoings in laboratory's and the Clinical Scientist's often interpret results to provide a clinical diagnosis for the clinician's. An example is interpreting a serum electrophoresis test for paraproteins. A Biomedical Scientist will interpret the results and quantify any paraprotein and report the result, the Clinical Scientist will inform the clinician's of the relevance of the result. The CS can also request any follow up tests such as immunotyping and gel electrophoresis.
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