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    (Original post by Ganondorf)
    I've been thinking.
    Perhaps Dumbledore doesn't entirely trust Snape. Why else would Snape not have got the defence against the dark arts teaching post in book 5? Perhaps Dumbledore thinks that Snape would try and teach dark arts like Karkaroff. The ministers decree stated that the ministry will find a teacher if hogwarts can't. That's why Umbridge got in. Surely if Dumbledore truly trusted Snape he would have given him the post and prevented Umbridge taking over the school.
    Doesn't Dumbledore say somewhere "I trust S Snape (I can't be bothered having a go at spelling his first name) with my life".
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    (Original post by Dude)
    Doesn't Dumbledore say somewhere "I trust S Snape (I can't be bothered having a go at spelling his first name) with my life".
    Which makes me think that perhaps in the past, maybe Snape saved Dumblydore's life, or had previously done something which totally proved his loyalty to the order, and his hatred to Voldie.
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    I'm halfway through Book 3 at the moment, better than 1 & 2 IMHO. Did Rawling start adapting the books after Book 3 to appeal even more to an adult audience (as far as complexity of plots go) as she realised they were popular with both adults and kids?
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    I'm halfway through Book 3 at the moment, better than 1 & 2 IMHO. Did Rawling start adapting the books after Book 3 to appeal even more to an adult audience (as far as complexity of plots go) as she realised they were popular with both adults and kids?
    No, she has had the content planned from the start. The style might have been changed.
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    i think the content and style has remained the same for all of the books. but as the kids got older, obviously more adult humour may have crept in which younger readers won't notice - referring to maturation etc.
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    (Original post by timeofyourlife)
    I'm halfway through Book 3 at the moment, better than 1 & 2 IMHO. Did Rawling start adapting the books after Book 3 to appeal even more to an adult audience (as far as complexity of plots go) as she realised they were popular with both adults and kids?
    No she didn't. She knew what was going to happen to Harry from the start of writing Philosophers Stone. When she was trying to get it puplished, she told the main guy of Bloomsbury what was going to happen each year at Hogwarts. So she has always planned for Harry to deal with Adult issues.
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    I thought the sleeping arrangement was odd as well, Bill and Charlie had to have had their own room at SOME point- maybe your room dissappears when you leave home? no clue- but thought it was odd- maybe that's a question to send in-

    the books did NOT come out at the same time here in the US- the first one was out, then a bit less than a year later the second, then the third about 6-9 months after that- then of course we had to wait to be on the regular schedule ever since- it just SEEMED like they came out all at once cause they had a bit of a slow start- they were kind of an underground thing for a bit- parents knew and loved them, but it took awhile for everyone to start going crazy- I would say the Third one was the big turning point-

    anyone been on the site lately? has she changed anything?
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    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    anyone been on the site lately? has she changed anything?
    I'll be going on it in a few minutes. I go on whenever i can.

    29 Days left to our aniversary.
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    Just finished reading Fantastic beasts (big accomplishment, i know :rolleyes: ), but you actually do find out where hogwarts is
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    (Original post by Dude)
    So she has always planned for Harry to deal with Adult issues.
    it would have been rather strange for her not to deal with adult issues as Harry grew up really :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Meghan)
    it would have been rather strange for her not to deal with adult issues as Harry grew up really :rolleyes:
    and as harry grows the audience does too.
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    (Original post by moncal)
    and as harry grows the audience does too.
    Very true. I wonder how old we will be when the last book finally comes out. But then again, many adults read it as well, so it doesn't matter too much. I swear there has been an increase in adults reading the books. I've seen so many on the train, and when travelling. Also, one of the pHd students or professors was reading OOTP. Nice!
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    (Original post by Xenon)
    Very true. I wonder how old we will be when the last book finally comes out. But then again, many adults read it as well, so it doesn't matter too much. I swear there has been an increase in adults reading the books. I've seen so many on the train, and when travelling. Also, one of the pHd students or professors was reading OOTP. Nice!
    You can't walk into an airport without seeing an adult reaing harry potter. Oddly enough they always read book 5 at airports. I have never seen anyone read any of them but 5 at airports. I can't believe that I started reading Harry Potter 5 years ago.
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    Does anybody know what happened to lady blitzer? She hasn't been on ukl in nearly 3 months.
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    (Original post by Xenon)
    Very true. I wonder how old we will be when the last book finally comes out. But then again, many adults read it as well, so it doesn't matter too much.
    I'm adult (at least in chronological age!) and I read HP. I first discovered the books when I read the first few pages of PS standing in a bookshop to see what all the fuss was about. Since then I was hooked but still did not buy the books. Instead I went into my local library and feeling very self-conscious at being the only adult to do so, went into the children's section and asked if they had the books (at that time 1-3 were out). The librarian gave me a v odd look but gave me all three, which I read immediately in succession!

    Then eagerly awaited book 4 and ended up buying all of them (including 2 copies each of book 4-5)
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    This post is long, but taken from mugglenet. They have summarised quite well the facts known about books 6-7:

    Random facts about the book
    The sixth book is yet to be titled, and don't believe anything otherwise.
    By the ends of books 6 and 7 "you'll have all the back story you'll need", says JK Rowling, and a prequel will not be necessary
    There will be a new Minister of Magic, no more Mr. Fudge.
    We will find out what happened to Hagrid's half brother Grawp. He will be a bit more controllable in book 6.
    The Dursleys are in the next book, but Harry's stay with them will be the shortest yet. In book 5 he stayed for 4 weeks, so we know his stay will be less than 4 weeks.
    Cho Chang will not be a romantic interest of Harry in Book 6, however there will be a "little romance" for Harry says JK.
    In books 6 and 7 we will find out exactly why JK killed off Sirius.
    Harry becomes even more powerful in book 6.
    In books 6 and 7 we will find out why Dumbledore trusts Snape.
    We will find out what happened to Wormtail AKA Peter Pettigrew
    More about the animosity between Snape and Sirius will be revealed in the last 2 books.
    JK has said that giving away the form of Snape's boggart and patronus says too much. We'll definitely find out what Snape's worst fear is, and it'll be important.
    Hermione and Draco will NOT end up together in book 6 or 7.
    We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he looked at the dementors.
    The reason Voldemort and Harry both didn't die when Voldemort tried to kill Harry, will be revealed.
    We will see more of Draco's mother, Narcissa Malfoy, now that Lucius is busy.
    We'll learn more about Harry's scar in the last 2 books.
    Moaning Myrtle will make an appearance again, as will Tonks.
    More about Voldemort's birth will be revealed, thus helping us understand why he is so evil.
    Muggles begin to notice "more and more odd" occurrences in book 6, says JK.
    The wizarding world is really at war in the sixth book.
    Harry will tell his dearest friends about the prophesy after it sinks in to him.
    We will learn more about Harry's relatives, including his grandparents (though JK says they aren't really important to the story)
    We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike.
    Book 6 will be shorter than the 5th book (or at least JK's 99% sure, but will not swear on her children's lives)
    There will be no "new" nationalities of children at Hogwarts. Hogwarts is a British school, and JK says that adding foreigners for the sake of it is not in her plans.
    During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet. (this could have happened in book 5, but we're unsure)
    It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.
    During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else". (This could have been buckbeak, but I'm sure we can expect more pets)
    In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."
    The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts
    Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
    Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
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    Previous post continued (from mugglenet)

    Rumors that Have Been Put to Rest
    There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be.
    Dumbledore is not a relative of Harry
    Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.
    Lily Potter is not alive.
    Lily was not a death eater
    No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts)
    Crookshanks is not an Animagus
    Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew (where do these people come up with this stuff?!)
    Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.
    The next book with not be called "Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch" or "Harry Potter and the Mountain of Fantasy"
    JK does not have any parts in the films
    Harry Potter will not be the new Minister of Magic



    General Facts Not Disclosed in the Books
    *newest on the top
    Prefects can take points, Ron got it wrong in OotP, which makes him a pretty poor prefect eh?
    Fred and George Weasley were born on April Fool's day (no joke).
    Ginny Weasley's first name is Ginevra and she is the first female Weasley born for "several generations," says JK.
    Author Weasley has 2 brothers.
    Molly Weasley's maiden name is Prewett.
    Crookshakes is half Kneazle.
    The infamous Weasley cousin who was cut from the books was called Mafalda. She was in Slytherin.
    Dean Thomas's father was killed by Death Eaters when he refused to join them. Neither Dean nor his mother know this.
    Dean Thomas's was called Gary in the first drafts of the Philosopher's Stone
    Harry's middle name is "James."
    Hagrid, Lily, and James were in Gryffindor. (Hagrid was NOT in Hufflepuff.)
    Lily Potter's maiden name was Evans.
    There are about a thousand students at Hogwarts. (True, that doesn't seem right, but J.K. said so, and she's the boss.)
    James Potter was a Chaser on the Gryffindor Quidditch team. (They said he was a Chaser in the books, Seeker in the movie.)
    Hermione's birthday is September 19th, Ron's is March 1st.
    James Potter inherited lots of money, so he didn't need a well-paying profession.
    James Potter inherited the invisibility cloak from his father.
    Witches and wizards have longer life spans than muggles.
    The Gringott's goblins' return the muggle money they acquire back into circulation.
    The approximate value of a Galleon is about five pounds ($7.30 or 8.00 Euro), though the exchange rate varies.
    Dumbledore is 150, McGonagall is 70 (and is really an old softy, just doesn't act like it), Snape is 35 or 36.
    Hogwarts school motto, "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus," means, "Never tickle a sleeping dragon."
    If placed in front of a mirror, the inscription on the Mirror of Erised ("Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on whosi") reads, "I show not your face but your hearts desire."
    The happiest people do not become ghosts (12) (therefore we can take it that ghosts are people that died while sad, angry, etc. Myrtle was teased, Nearly Headless Nick didn't have his head completely chopped off, the Bloody Baron was...lonely?)
    The Hogwarts teachers do not stay at Hogwarts during the Christmas holidays. Filch, Hagrid, and Dumbledore do.
    A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but that information is restricted for reasons we will find out about later. (5)
    To remove the tail that Hagrid gave Dudley in the hut on the rock, the Dursleys went to a private hospital where the staff was very discreet, and said that a wart had got out of control. (9)
    Aragog is an Acromantula (see "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them"). (6)
    Dragons can't be domesticated, no matter what Hagrid thinks. (6)
    There's more to the cats in the story (Crookshanks, Mrs. Figg's cats, Mrs. Norris, etc.) than meets the eye. (9)
    The animal an Animagi turns into is a reflection on his/her personality. (8)
    For Hagrid, keeping dangerous creatures is all about overcoming something that could kill him. (6)
    Azkaban is in a sea north of the North Sea. A very cold sea. (12)
    You can do unfocused and uncontrolled magic without a wand (like when Harry blows up Aunt Marge), but to do really good spells you need a wand. (5)
    Muggle school is not required for wizard children prior to attending Hogwarts. (9)
    A magical quill detects the birth of every magical child, and records it in a book; Professor McGonagall sends an owl to each child when he or she turns 11. (14)
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    Is anybody else having trouble going to JKR's website? I can't seem to get it to load, but it has loaded every other time I have ever wanted to go to it.
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    interesting reading parvati! now i want the next book even more.
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    (Original post by parvati)
    This post is long, but taken from mugglenet. They have summarised quite well the facts known about books 6-7:

    During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet. (this could have happened in book 5, but we're unsure)
    What about the Trophy Room? We've seen on her website that it contains trophys for people like Harry's parents, Nevilles parents etc.

    And it has made an appearance in the movies.

    (Original post by parvati)
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    There are about a thousand students at Hogwarts. (True, that doesn't seem right, but J.K. said so, and she's the boss.)
    I'll believe her since she says so, but that can not be right. In Gryiffindor alone in Harrys year there are only 10 students (Harry, Ron, Seamus, Dean, Neville, Lavender, Parvati, Herimonie and the two other girl students).
 
 
 
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