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    Another long post for you. This time it's from 428 (I think) up until 440. I don't expect many of you will read it but I wanted to comment on things anyway.

    (Original post by Xenon)
    Btw, is it just me, or did it seem a bit out of charater of Snape to put himself in front of the trio, to protect them against lupin as a werewolf? I mean, it would be totally normal for a teacher to do so, but snape?
    I think even Snape would put his life at risk for his students. Even if he normally is a complete git!

    (Original post by Dychey)
    Do you think Harry will know that he's not superman though? I mean he has survived a hell of a lot, so maybe in the next book he might do some crazy stuff with the idea that he cannot be killed?
    Hmmm…I can't really see Harry becoming 'power hungry' or thinking he is invincible. He might do very risky things but never for the sake of it or with the assumption that he wont get hurt.

    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    Reading book five, i got to the part where moody was showing harry the picture, do you think any of the order members they said they never found might still be alive somehow?
    I think I brought that up a while ago (sometimes is hard to keep track!). We'll have to keep on the look out for…(looks up name-) Caradoc Dearborn.

    (Original post by woody)
    Yeah the discussions with dumbledore could be shortened lots cos it did start to drag the end of the book, and I think we'd see enough of moody harry without hours of tantrums!
    But I can see the section becoming another scene of really wooden acting.

    (Original post by Erised)
    She doesn't really seem to be putting a whole lot of effort into the books lately though... We all saw how fast she got the first three books out and now the rest are going to take forever...
    She was on a strict deadline for the first three where as with the last two she was able to do things at her own pace. Obviously she's also had another child and gotten married etc so that'll understandably be taking up a lot of time. We all want to have the next book ASAP but I'm sure it'll be worth the wait!

    (Original post by parvati)
    we ended up buying multiple copies of OotP as my sis and I both wanted to read it at the same time!
    We've done the same for the last few books as well! We're all most impatient to read them as soon as they come out!

    (Original post by shilling)
    But she said she likes the films, didn't she?
    She needs to maintain a good relationship with WB though. I doubt she could really express her opinions freely if she thought they were utter crap.

    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    ha just found this post from page 16, and i was wondering what everyone thinks now, will dumbledore expel malfoy crabbe and goyle?
    I doubt it, unless they do something to really cross the line. He'd never punish them for their parent's evils.

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    well- 1) Harry won't die- imagine the outrage- doesn't matter if its a better storyline- it would kill the endless marketing circle and spark mass outrage-
    I'm not saying whether I think he will or wont die, but I think you're reasoning is off. I doubt JK will base the outcome of her books on the publics desires and merchandise market. It's been planned since the beginning.

    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    but i thought only the strongest death eaters/volde could make his scar hurt?
    Well, we have discussed the possibility of Umbridge becoming a deatheater. She's certainly got some of the personality traits of one.

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    since Moody knows about the cloak (see book 4) we know the rest of the order knows- he wouldn't keep that a secret- and I'm SURE Ginny knows- she's not dumb- and actually most of the school probably knows- remember what happened with Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle in book 3? the mud? so at LEAST they know-
    I don't know that Malfoy&Co know about the cloak. They may have concluded it was a spell.
    Oops- already replied to this one. Thought it rang a bell! - 'Not necessarally. They might have assumed it was some sort of illusion spell (or a 'splinch' even). But Snape may have told them. '

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    here's a question for a new discussion- Harry's bogart was a dementor, right? and it had all the dementor's powers- so how come since Lupin's was the full moon, it didn't turn him into a werewolf?
    It didn't have its full power I don't think. Not sure, but I thought that'd been said (?). Good point though.

    (Original post by _EMMA_)
    anyway was it instant succes in the UK when the 1st book came out?
    Nope. The big 'hype' didn't break out until atleast after the second, I think it was after the 3rd but can't remember completely. I'd actually gotten the first book when it was released as my Mum bought it thinking it looked good. Then we started buying relatives copies for birthdays/Christmas and trying to persuade people to read them. Now it's quite rare to find someone who hasn't read them!

    (Original post by parvati)
    Author Weasley has 2 brothers.
    That's quite interesting. New characters to be introduced perhaps?

    (Original post by parvati)
    The infamous Weasley cousin who was cut from the books was called Mafalda. She was in Slytherin.
    Infamous cousin? Infamous when? There's already a character called Mafalda though. Mafalda Hopkirk (ignore spelling) though I can't place her precisely. Is that the same person?

    (Original post by parvati)
    Dean Thomas's father was killed by Death Eaters when he refused to join them. Neither Dean nor his mother know this.
    That's very interesting! How was the death explained/assumed if the family didn't know. I hope this comes up in the future books. He must have been a pretty powerful wizard if the Death Eaters wanted him to join them…but then again, now powerful enough to survive them.

    (Original post by parvati)
    James Potter inherited lots of money, so he didn't need a well-paying profession.
    I guess that would help reinforce some people's theories that the Potters were teachers.

    (Original post by parvati)
    The approximate value of a Galleon is about five pounds ($7.30 or 8.00 Euro), though the exchange rate varies.
    Seems odd to give it an amount. That means the omnioculars Harry bought cost, if I remember correctly (for three pairs -each 10 galleons) £150! Blimey! But then it seems a smaller amount when Ron says he'd never have a Galleon to confuse Hermione's fake one with. Hmmm…

    (Original post by parvati)
    A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but that information is restricted for reasons we will find out about later. (5)
    Sounds interesting (gah! I keep saying that!), are they going to become more victims of Voldemort. I think that's likely for perhaps one teacher.

    (Original post by parvati)
    You can do unfocused and uncontrolled magic without a wand (like when Harry blows up Aunt Marge), but to do really good spells you need a wand. (5)
    So that's really the opposite way round to how I was thinking but never mind.

    (Original post by parvati)
    Muggle school is not required for wizard children prior to attending Hogwarts. (9)
    So that must mean wizard children are home educated then? Surely that's not really possible for everyone - single parents need to work and all that. They'd probably have specialist wizard pre-school for well off families maybe? It would also be pretty enclosed as well, if you didn't have any siblings. There must be some other form of pre-Hogwarts education.

    (Original post by Dude)
    'In that case, perhaps we can return to my list.' said Mr Malfoy shortly. 'I am in something of a hurry, Borgin, I have important business elsewhere today.' (Book 2, Chapter 4)
    Borgin - I think we'll be seeing him again.

    (Original post by moncal)
    I think that he probably had a wife at some point. I imagine that his wife was killed by some wizard. Maybe Grindewald.
    Some interesting ideas. It's odd, as I can't really picture the current Dumbledore having a partner. I suppose a past wife is feasible but I don't think he has one now…it feels like it wouldn't fit.

    ---
    That'll do this lot. I conclude that I use the word 'interesting' far too often.
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    The funny thing is that i only read your long post Egan if I'm bored or if i'm metioned, which i am this time. YYYYYEEEEHHHHHH. I i can't remember posting that. What were we discussing at the time and how long ago was it?
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    Dude, on the link to my site in your sig, to have it change colors you need the color code () around the text you want displayed only. NOt aroound the whole thing.
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    (Original post by Egan1)
    Another long post for you. This time it's from 428 (I think) up until 440. I don't expect many of you will read it but I wanted to comment on things anyway.

    I think even Snape would put his life at risk for his students. Even if he normally is a complete git!

    Hmmm…I can't really see Harry becoming 'power hungry' or thinking he is invincible. He might do very risky things but never for the sake of it or with the assumption that he wont get hurt.

    I think I brought that up a while ago (sometimes is hard to keep track!). We'll have to keep on the look out for…(looks up name-) Caradoc Dearborn.

    But I can see the section becoming another scene of really wooden acting.

    She was on a strict deadline for the first three where as with the last two she was able to do things at her own pace. Obviously she's also had another child and gotten married etc so that'll understandably be taking up a lot of time. We all want to have the next book ASAP but I'm sure it'll be worth the wait!

    We've done the same for the last few books as well! We're all most impatient to read them as soon as they come out!

    She needs to maintain a good relationship with WB though. I doubt she could really express her opinions freely if she thought they were utter crap.

    I doubt it, unless they do something to really cross the line. He'd never punish them for their parent's evils.

    I'm not saying whether I think he will or wont die, but I think you're reasoning is off. I doubt JK will base the outcome of her books on the publics desires and merchandise market. It's been planned since the beginning.

    Well, we have discussed the possibility of Umbridge becoming a deatheater. She's certainly got some of the personality traits of one.

    I don't know that Malfoy&Co know about the cloak. They may have concluded it was a spell.
    Oops- already replied to this one. Thought it rang a bell! - 'Not necessarally. They might have assumed it was some sort of illusion spell (or a 'splinch' even). But Snape may have told them. '

    It didn't have its full power I don't think. Not sure, but I thought that'd been said (?). Good point though.

    Nope. The big 'hype' didn't break out until atleast after the second, I think it was after the 3rd but can't remember completely. I'd actually gotten the first book when it was released as my Mum bought it thinking it looked good. Then we started buying relatives copies for birthdays/Christmas and trying to persuade people to read them. Now it's quite rare to find someone who hasn't read them!


    That's quite interesting. New characters to be introduced perhaps?

    Infamous cousin? Infamous when? There's already a character called Mafalda though. Mafalda Hopkirk (ignore spelling) though I can't place her precisely. Is that the same person?

    That's very interesting! How was the death explained/assumed if the family didn't know. I hope this comes up in the future books. He must have been a pretty powerful wizard if the Death Eaters wanted him to join them…but then again, now powerful enough to survive them.

    I guess that would help reinforce some people's theories that the Potters were teachers.

    Seems odd to give it an amount. That means the omnioculars Harry bought cost, if I remember correctly (for three pairs -each 10 galleons) £150! Blimey! But then it seems a smaller amount when Ron says he'd never have a Galleon to confuse Hermione's fake one with. Hmmm…

    Sounds interesting (gah! I keep saying that!), are they going to become more victims of Voldemort. I think that's likely for perhaps one teacher.

    So that's really the opposite way round to how I was thinking but never mind.

    So that must mean wizard children are home educated then? Surely that's not really possible for everyone - single parents need to work and all that. They'd probably have specialist wizard pre-school for well off families maybe? It would also be pretty enclosed as well, if you didn't have any siblings. There must be some other form of pre-Hogwarts education.

    Borgin - I think we'll be seeing him again.


    Some interesting ideas. It's odd, as I can't really picture the current Dumbledore having a partner. I suppose a past wife is feasible but I don't think he has one now…it feels like it wouldn't fit.

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    That'll do this lot. I conclude that I use the word 'interesting' far too often.
    wow this is like the longest post ever :eek:
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    Egan1's post may be long but its cool to recap on some of the things we were discussing a few pages ago, because I think I had forgotten some of the stuff (and some of it I wrote!)
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    I have been thinking about Snape's worst memory, its odd that it doesnt have anything to do with volde. It depends how deep in he was- If he killed anyone, but now he's good, you would think he would be remorseful. So either he wasnt deep in, or he is still on volde's side, because he doesnt regret doing it.
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    I have been thinking about Snape's worst memory, its odd that it doesnt have anything to do with volde. It depends how deep in he was- If he killed anyone, but now he's good, you would think he would be remorseful. So either he wasnt deep in, or he is still on volde's side, because he doesnt regret doing it.
    That is an interesting thought! Snape certainly doesnt act remorseful at all. I think looking at the way he does protect students in life threatening situations, even though he is mean to them at other times, he can't have killed anyone.

    Also Dumbledore would have encouraged him to own up and receive punishment when he came over to the good side, had he killed.
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    (Original post by parvati)
    That is an interesting thought! Snape certainly doesnt act remorseful at all. I think looking at the way he does protect students in life threatening situations, even though he is mean to them at other times, he can't have killed anyone.

    Also Dumbledore would have encouraged him to own up and receive punishment when he came over to the good side, had he killed.
    Dumbledore might not know what all Snape was involved in during his time with the death eaters. I'm sure tha one who didn't kill or do stuff equally bad stuck out like a sore thumb.
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    (Original post by moncal)
    Dumbledore might not know what all Snape was involved in during his time with the death eaters. I'm sure tha one who didn't kill or do stuff equally bad stuck out like a sore thumb.
    the other strange thing is that Snape was desperate to teach DADA. If he really was on volie's side, he surely would not have wanted to teach the subject properly
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    (Original post by parvati)
    the other strange thing is that Snape was desperate to teach DADA. If he really was on volie's side, he surely would not have wanted to teach the subject properly
    Unless his Idea of DADA is a bit different from everybody else's.
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    (Original post by moncal)
    Unless his Idea of DADA is a bit different from everybody else's.
    DADADA (defense against DADA!)
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    Plus, I think it was proved in book 3 that Snape really can't handle teaching DADA without bringing his personal vendetta's into it.
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    (Original post by moncal)
    Plus, I think it was proved in book 3 that Snape really can't handle teaching DADA without bringing his personal vendetta's into it.
    true, and also when he was told to teach harry occlumency in book 5.

    may be he will be allowed to teach once all who he has a vendetta against him arent around
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    One of ya'll brits had better get tickets to the Edinburgh book festival. Her website says that she will be taking questions from the audience, and it is a relatively small audience. Go to www.bloomsbury.com to enter a ballot to win a seat.
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    (Original post by moncal)
    One of ya'll brits had better get tickets to the Edinburgh book festival. Her website says that she will be taking questions from the audience, and it is a relatively small audience. Go to www.bloomsbury.com to enter a ballot to win a seat.
    one of the many times i wish i was british. or at least europeen. :rolleyes: i so want to get seats and ask her questions! but i can't, cuz i live in canada.
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    I have been thinking about Snape's worst memory, its odd that it doesnt have anything to do with volde. It depends how deep in he was- If he killed anyone, but now he's good, you would think he would be remorseful. So either he wasnt deep in, or he is still on volde's side, because he doesnt regret doing it.
    that IS strange. it's a bit disturbing that he hated james and sirius THAT much. makes me wonder if he's at all trustworthy when it comes to harry. :confused:
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    (Original post by Egan1)
    Infamous cousin? Infamous when? There's already a character called Mafalda though. Mafalda Hopkirk (ignore spelling) though I can't place her precisely. Is that the same person?
    Mafalda Hopkirk, Improper use of magic office.

    JKR mentioned in many interviews that she'd originally written a cousin for the Weasleys. She was the daughter of the second cousin whose an accountant and turned out to be a witch. She was supposed to come into the story in GOF and spend the summer Weasleys who were going to sort her out coz she was horrible. She was really clever but ended up in Slytherin and showed all the Slytherin traits, her main role was to pass on information about the Death Eaters to Harry and co. JKR realised that there was only so much an 11 year old girl could discover so wrote the character out and gave Rita Skeeter a bigger role, letting her pass on the information instead as it was a more believable scenario

    (Original post by Egan1)
    That's very interesting! How was the death explained/assumed if the family didn't know. I hope this comes up in the future books. He must have been a pretty powerful wizard if the Death Eaters wanted him to join them…but then again, now powerful enough to survive them.
    Dean's father walked out on the family when Dean was younger. His wife (and therefore Dean) never knew that he was a wizard so Dean is under the impression that he is muggle born. After walking out on his family Dean's father was killed by the Death Eaters, again, Dean doesn't know this, originally Dean was mean to discover all through out the course of the books. None of this is described in the books as JK sacrificed Dean's story for Neville's.

    All this is on JKR's website, sorry for everyone whose been on the site, but I thought I'd fill anyone else in on the back story.

    (Original post by Egan1)
    Seems odd to give it an amount. That means the omnioculars Harry bought cost, if I remember correctly (for three pairs -each 10 galleons) £150! Blimey! But then it seems a smaller amount when Ron says he'd never have a Galleon to confuse Hermione's fake one with. Hmmm…
    To be honest I don't think JK really though this through, on the back of the Comis RElief book the price is in UK pound, US dollars and Galleons, which is how the exchang rate has been calculated
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    I have been thinking about Snape's worst memory, its odd that it doesnt have anything to do with volde. It depends how deep in he was- If he killed anyone, but now he's good, you would think he would be remorseful. So either he wasnt deep in, or he is still on volde's side, because he doesnt regret doing it.
    I'd had a thought about this too. Considering its Snape's Worst Memory, it does seem that bad. I'm sure he must have experienced worse, sure it must have been embarrassing, but he was a Death Eater, he must have seen death and destruction etc. I was wondering if something worse happened in the memory once Harry had been pulled out of the pensieve. Maybe something really terrible happened after James finished turning Sanpe upside down
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    (Original post by parvati)
    the other strange thing is that Snape was desperate to teach DADA. If he really was on volie's side, he surely would not have wanted to teach the subject properly
    I guess Snape would have taught the subject in a similar way to Karakaroff
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    Right, another long post. I was going to do one more page so that I had only 10 left to do, but (having typed my replies on Word for safety) the content of this reply has already exceeded 3 pages so I'll post now and do the rest in a bit

    Again sorry for any repeats, especially on the latest points as I haven't read the replied that come after them.

    The next post should be my last long one so I'll get back to any of you who have commented on my previous replies.

    Enjoy! *doubting that anyone will read it!*

    [*laughs* - just tried to post this but my reply had exceeded the 10000 character limit by several thousand! I'll cut off a page of replies at the bottom and send them on the next lot!]

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    I do think Dumbledore is probably half muggle if not completely muggleborn-
    Hmm…I'm not sure. I see him more as a pureblood. If you remember, I think it was Voldemort though it may have been Malfoy or someone else, that called him a 'Muggle-loving fool'. If he was of a muggle parentage it seems an odd thing to say.

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    I know they COULD just apparate from Hogwarts, but I feel like they don't- maybe their spouses are hidden in the castle or something- I just find the whole married teacher concept odd- they always seem to be around- at all hours of the day or night-
    Apparate from Hogwarts? [Hermione voice-] 'You can't apparate in the Hogwarts grounds Brooklyn, how many times do I have to tell you!' [-Hermione voice]. But I know what you mean. If some have families it's a bit odd- as you say, they always seem to be in school!

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    IChris Columbus's daughter was paying Susan Born in the first two movies- she has some lines in book 5, you think they'll use the same girl?
    They may well not even include the lines in the film. They have a vast amount of plot and script to fit in, I'm not sure whether the director will consider her few lines important enough to be part of the film.

    (Original post by parvati)
    Thats a really good point, why did Voldie not wait? I think JK tried to sort of explain it by Dumbledore saying that the prudent thing for Voldie would have been to wait, but by choosing Harry, it was him who made the prophesy about Harry, not Neville
    Why would/should he wait? He was damned powerful and saw a threat, to him there would be no reason to 'wait and see how it turned out'. He thought of himself as near invincible and Harry as a threat to that, so getting rid of him ASAP would have been a good idea.

    (Original post by parvati)
    I've just read an ineresting cooment by someone that the special thing about Lily may have been her ability to love a person who noone else could. Thats what was so special about Lily, and love I guess is the most powerful magic of all. That may be JK's big message about the Harry Potter saga. Guess the beatles had it right (all u need is love...)
    Hmmm…sounds a bit cheesy really. I can see it being a sort of underlying moral thing but I hope the entire series isn't based on Lily's ability to be nice!

    (Original post by corey)
    I think your overreacting, she has told us what happened...its merely a technical point that James died after Lily, as far as I am concerned.
    However it does open up new possibilities for whatever occurred on the night of the Potter's murder. If James wasn't killed before Lilly, as someone said, does that mean he was injured originally and managed to get back up and burst in just after Voldemort had killed his wife? It can't has to have been between the time Lily died and the time Voldemort tried to kill Harry, unless he just died slowly somewhere. The house was in ruins but he has to have been killed directly (rather than from an explosion or whatever) because he came out of the wand.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv...00/2353727.stm
    (Original post by Newsround)
    What was the original working title of Chamber of Secrets?
    Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. I quite liked that title, unfortunately the story bore no relation whatsoever to the title by the time I'd finished.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv...00/2353727.stm
    I found this on an interview (link above) which says 'Updated 23 October 2002, 15.02'. So she'd mentioned the new title quite some time ago then! Anyway, at least having read the above we know that we can't really pick up any clues about the 'Prince' from CoS.
    [Just realised someone has said that a few pages on…ah well]

    (Original post by parvati)
    The way she talked about the mirror in her site makes me think that the mirror was not a way of contacting sirius as such, but sirius had left an essence of himself in it, much the same way as voldie left a bit of him in that diary. Hence that essence would have sirius' memories up until that point and be able to advise Harry whenever Harry needs it. That would also explain why JK said that the mirror would not have been as useful to Harry in OooP as we might think.
    That seems very strange really. I thought the idea of the mirrors would, from Sirius perspective be that he could help Harry out in a situation where he was in trouble or simply feeling troubled. I can't see a portrait-like version being able to work the same way. Sirius would want to know himself!

    (Original post by Babygal)
    I think the title is absolutely rubbish, its gonna scare the little ones quite abit don't you think
    Why would it scare them? Or is there some sarcasm I'm missing?

    (Original post by Xenon)
    Well, there should be, unless the founder didn't leave an heir (unlikely) or the last remaining heir is dead. But yeah, I think there will be an heir for each house.
    [I've said this before a few times but…] I think having singular heirs for each founder would be extremely cheesy. If you think about it, why would there just be one heir? If there's a person who's descended from a founder, then so has one of their parents, grandparents and so on. Also, think about how a family tree looks. One person has a few children, and they go on to have children and so on and so forth. Over the few hundred years since Hogwarts was founded, many generations will have come and gone and many people will have the genes of the founders (assuming they had families originally) -especially considering much wizarding community is related.

    (Original post by ditzy blonde)
    I think we might need to think a bit more laterally with the Prince thing. We've had no indication that theres a wizarding royal family as such, so I'm thinking maybe a prince-among-men type thing. And it may not be a known character (like the Prisoner of Azkaban), although as my friend pointed out, it might be a bit late in the day to start introducing loads of new characters.
    If it is a literal prince then I can more easily see him being part of a foreign monarchy, but with that I can't really see how that sort of part (which is obviously pretty important) would have fitted in to CoS.

    (Original post by Xenon)
    I'm just thinking that we all know that JK wouldn't put names in there for no reason, so why can't Mark Evans be the half-blooded prince? that way we can find out exactly who the kid is.
    It's certainly a very interesting idea.
    Just happened, a minute ago I inputted one of the new actors names into a google search hoping for a picture but the site that came up was linked to a page that sais that JK had said on her site (something about by a paper clip bit I think…) that Mark Evans is totally unrelated to the story. I really can't see that being the case though.

    (Original post by Geogger)
    I'm getting more convinced it's Tom Riddle...not only does the half blood fit, but we know nothing of his mother and Dobby was quite clear that "He" was not "He who could not be named" - remember the confusion that surrounded that for Harry? JKR saying that its not Voldemort suggests that she is talking like Dobby!
    But it'd be a bit dodgy is it wasn't Voldemort but was Tom Riddle- they're the same person so I think that'd make the clue most unfair.

    (Original post by Brooklyn)
    But we already know that she came from Slytherin's line- what else about her could matter? Other than that she fell in love with a muggle loser? which is rather un-Slytherin of her....
    For some reason I'd always thought of Voldemort's mother as a very poor person but I'm not quite sure where that came from. [I might need to reread the books to check out what info we have on her.] I suppose though that she could have been royalty of some kind which would perhaps be how she'd first been introduced to Voldemort's father. Her family might have disowned her when they discovered she was pregnant and that's how Voldemort came to be brought up in an orphanage rather than have any relatives look after him. I think that's all off track though as, as I said in the reply above, it'd be a bit of a cheat if the prince was Tom Riddle.

    (Original post by Xenon)
    Th thread may be the oldest thread which is still being used. Oh, I don't mind having HP book 6 the same length as book 5, or even longer, but it might be annoying for ry to have to read aloud for that long!
    The longer the better! More story- more knowledge and understanding and more to enjoy!

    (Original post by choco_frog_chic)
    has any1 thought that this prince may not just be half blood wizard - what if he was half blood human? like hagrid... but i don't think it's him.
    Ah, I hadn't thought of that. It could work being Hagrid or his brother - their mother was an empress or something was she not? I can't really see him being the prince but all the same, well thought!

    (Original post by choco_frog_chic)
    Dudley - i think Petunia is officially a Muggle
    Ha, would be entertaining if Vernon turned out to be a wizard or a squib. Can't really see it happening but all the same.

    (Original post by Xenon)
    Hope your exams went ok.
    Generally much better than expected, thanks.

    To be continued...
 
 
 
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