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Will it anger you that only 150,000 ish people will chose the next PM if there is a Tory leadership election.
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Well last time they did that we ended up general election-ing so it probably wouldn't matter. Either way tho they can't do worse than May.
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Will it anger you that only 150,000 ish people will chose the next PM if there is a Tory leadership election.
Nope.

That's the system.

Having more people vote on it doesn't automatically mean you'll get better choices: see Miliband and Corbyn.
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No, it makes a Rees-Mogg Premiership much more likely. In fact it is the only way he would get there!

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Will it anger you that only 150,000 ish people will chose the next PM if there is a Tory leadership election.
What's more important to me is to get an answer to the following question, do the Tories really need a leadership contest? Sure, they lost their majority (bad call from May), sure, her performance was appalling (2:0 against May), but she increased her share of the vote.

People keep repeating that people spoke but they spoke only in a number of constituencies. It's the fault of the FPTP system that she lost her majority. PR system would make her a successful campaigner, despite the performance :lol:

She didn't direct the campaign and allocate funds and activists to specific constituencies, so it shouldn't fall on her that the party didn't perform as well as they might have done. It's mainly the campaign directors' fault, directors who weren't chosen by the PM but the CHQ.
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Why should it? You vote for the party in a GE.
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Yes, very few people choosing the Prime Minister with powerful Tories having more power is not an inspiring situation.
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Yes, very few people choosing the Prime Minister with powerful Tories having more power is not an inspiring situation.
Tough your not a party member
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Tough your not a party member
We should have a system closer to America with open primaries etc. for party leaders. Would be better.
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We should have a system closer to America with open primaries etc. for party leaders. Would be better.
The conservatives do party members vote just like in the US
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Well last time they did that we ended up general election-ing so it probably wouldn't matter. Either way tho they can't do worse than May.
BoJo, Gove, Hammond, Davies, Gove, Rees-Mog, Fox, Rudd...

May is awful but there will be no leadership challenge because the alternatives are bloody terrible.
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The conservatives do party members vote just like in the US
Neither the Republican nor the Democrat parties have members as such.
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Neither the Republican nor the Democrat parties have members as such.
Actually you can be a memeber and during primaries you can only participate in one
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There won't be one until after we're out of the EU. That way if there's any negative blowback from Brexit it can be pinned on TM rather than the new regime.
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What's more important to me is to get an answer to the following question, do the Tories really need a leadership contest? Sure, they lost their majority (bad call from May), sure, her performance was appalling (2:0 against May), but she increased her share of the vote.
Very few people in the party will have the appetite for her to be the leader at the next election, she is totally discredited and it would be a serious indictment of their state if the Tories couldn't find an alternative to such gamble. Give it a couple of years and see who pops up but the vacancy is there to fill. It would have already, if only there was someone else.
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BoJo, Gove, Hammond, Davies, Gove, Rees-Mog, Fox, Rudd...

May is awful but there will be no leadership challenge because the alternatives are bloody terrible.
There will be no challenge, as peaceful a hand-over as possible instead. She will be only too happy to let go, it's a leadership election but no challenge to her.

It is hard but probably unnecessary too to look for the next one, where were Milliband and Corbyn before they raced from the shadows to snatch it? The Tories have time on their hands, it also serves them to let Corbymania cool down a bit, May was made to stay with a view to wait until a replacement is ready.
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Will it anger you that only 150,000 ish people will chose the next PM if there is a Tory leadership election.
No, but if the same number of people put Corbyn in power then it's a yes. Vince, maybe...
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Actually you can be a memeber and during primaries you can only participate in one

What is the current membership fee? Find me an application form for membership? Find me anyone who has ever been expelled from membership?

Different states have different laws about primaries. Generally speaking, you can register with the State authorities, not with a Party as a Republican or a Democrat in which case you can only vote in that primary and if you register as neither then either you cannot vote in a primary or you can vote in either but not both primaries.

But registering as a Republican or a Democrat with the state electoral authorities does not make you a member of a membership organisation.

Uniquely, in the USA, a political party is a committee of activists. What is registered with the Federal Election Commission is the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee. They both have about 300 members. This is then repeated at state and county level.
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