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June 8th 2017 was a warning sign to the Conservative Party and all those within it, the era of valueless centrist politics is over. For the first time in many elections, Corbyn, though I disagree with his political philosophy, gave the public a genuine choice. He has to be respected for that. The Conservative Party of today can't even be considered a "Conservative" party anymore. The last seven years have been nothing but a continuation of Blairism with a light touch of fiscal responsibility. Fundamentals of Conservatism like scrapping unnecessary regulations and lowering taxes have all been lost on the current Conservative Party leadership. It is under a Conservative led government that we have witnessed a systematic watering down of our criminal justice system to pander to the human rights brigade (and to the point that criminals now effectively run the prisons they inhabit) and it was the seniority of the Conservative Party leadership which presided over record levels of immigration (non-EU as well as EU). It was the Conservative Party which ringfenced foreign aid to 0.7% of GDP. If the Conservative Party is to survive, it needs to root out the liberal infiltrators who believe in the antithesis of what Conservatives believe (e.g. Nicky Morgan, an arch Remoaner and anti-grammar school advocate). It's time for a polarising clash of political and ideological beliefs. Corbyn is firmly on the socialist high taxation high public expenditure side of the argument, will the Conservative Party oppose him in policy as well as in insult or will it simply try to appease the left as it's done over the last three elections?
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Largely agree but you should use paragraphs to not look like a loony.

Also, I don't think cutting out liberal conservatives is going to help increase a Tory majority any more that culling blairites will help the Labour Party.
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Can we actually have a "right wing" party that doesnt genuflect before their enemies who want to absolutely crush them.

Conservatives today dont conserve anything, they lose every culture war there is to the point that they actually accept the position of their enemies (pro gay marriage) , these clowns will eventually even allow men into women's bathroom in the near future because they are worthless fighters in this culture.

Conservatives now actively want to try push to "de-medicalise gender".
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Last time I looked, the Conservatives were indeed falling back to form, with anonymous briefings to the press, in-fighting, back stabbing and the sort of public school boy antics you only ever get from the Nasty Party.
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Yes, the Conservative & Unionist Party needs to become proper right wing nationalist like the US Republican Party, they could even win seats in poorer northern parts of Britain as Labour have shown no interest in taking a centre right nationalist approach towards law & order, immigration & the EU which would be a true vote winner for them. The Conservatives should do this by having policies like:
- Life sentences mean life in England & Wales
- Triple maximum prison sentences in England & Wales
- Referendum on capital punishment for murder and rape of under 18 offenses in England & Wales (while encouraging Scotland & NI to follow but leave the choice to the devolved administrations
- Require the union jack to be flown on all schools & government buildings
- Require school pupils to take the oath of allegiance at the start of class
- Banning of certain face coverings in public places
- More social conservative policies on abortion
- BBC & Channel 4 privatisation
- 5% defence spending
And more from this:
https://www.conservativehome.com/the...bel-bills.html
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They should separate into different parties, there should be a right wing big government party, there should be a libertarian free market party and a christian party (which could be UKIP)
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(Original post by Sycatonne23)
June 8th 2017 was a warning sign to the Conservative Party and all those within it, the era of valueless centrist politics is over. For the first time in many elections, Corbyn, though I disagree with his political philosophy, gave the public a genuine choice. He has to be respected for that. The Conservative Party of today can't even be considered a "Conservative" party anymore.The last seven years have been nothing but a continuation of Blairism with a light touch of fiscal responsibility. Fundamentals of Conservatism like scrapping unnecessary regulations and lowering taxes have all been lost on the current Conservative Party leadership. It is under a Conservative led government that we have witnessed a systematic watering down of our criminal justice system to pander to the human rights brigade (and to the point that criminals now effectively run the prisons they inhabit) and it was the seniority of the Conservative Party leadership which presided over record levels of immigration (non-EU as well as EU). It was the Conservative Party which ringfenced foreign aid to 0.7% of GDP. If the Conservative Party is to survive, it needs to root out the liberal infiltrators who believe in the antithesis of what Conservatives believe (e.g. Nicky Morgan, an arch Remoaner and anti-grammar school advocate). It's time for a polarising clash of political and ideological beliefs. Corbyn is firmly on the socialist high taxation high public expenditure side of the argument, will the Conservative Party oppose him in policy as well as in insult or will it simply try to appease the left as it's done over the last three elections?
If you get rid of the increasingly liberal tendencies of the Conservative Party then you weaken their chances of getting a strong majority in the future. The public, in general, are not conservative like you are describing.
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I think Corbyn's success was as a change candidate. Politicians at the moment seem to be very good at promising or pushing through minimal change policies. When they do big changes, at the moment under the tory government, they just piss everyone off (e.g. child tax credit cuts, tuition fees...)

There needs to be an acknowledgement that the current state of affairs sucks for most people, and radical changes are more likely to be able to solve them
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(Original post by Sycatonne23)
June 8th 2017 was a warning sign to the Conservative Party and all those within it, the era of valueless centrist politics is over. For the first time in many elections, Corbyn, though I disagree with his political philosophy, gave the public a genuine choice. He has to be respected for that. The Conservative Party of today can't even be considered a "Conservative" party anymore. The last seven years have been nothing but a continuation of Blairism with a light touch of fiscal responsibility. Fundamentals of Conservatism like scrapping unnecessary regulations and lowering taxes have all been lost on the current Conservative Party leadership. It is under a Conservative led government that we have witnessed a systematic watering down of our criminal justice system to pander to the human rights brigade (and to the point that criminals now effectively run the prisons they inhabit) and it was the seniority of the Conservative Party leadership which presided over record levels of immigration (non-EU as well as EU). It was the Conservative Party which ringfenced foreign aid to 0.7% of GDP. If the Conservative Party is to survive, it needs to root out the liberal infiltrators who believe in the antithesis of what Conservatives believe (e.g. Nicky Morgan, an arch Remoaner and anti-grammar school advocate). It's time for a polarising clash of political and ideological beliefs. Corbyn is firmly on the socialist high taxation high public expenditure side of the argument, will the Conservative Party oppose him in policy as well as in insult or will it simply try to appease the left as it's done over the last three elections?

The grassroots of the Conservative party are largely true conservatives and want to bring genuine change, whether through being pro-business and lowered taxes or equality of opportunity from selective education. Unfortunately we have a political class at the top of the Tory party who are in it for their careers and want to play safe or listen to focus groups because they aren't in this out of conviction.

The same is true in the Labour Party, where most MPs laughed at Corbyn for being radical but he was popular with the grassroots and the electorate. If we want things to change, we have to only vote for candidates who believe in what they say, not say what they think is popular and then do the opposite once in power.
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Yes, the Conservative & Unionist Party needs to become proper right wing nationalist like the US Republican Party, they could even win seats in poorer northern parts of Britain as Labour have shown no interest in taking a centre right nationalist approach towards law & order, immigration & the EU which would be a true vote winner for them. The Conservatives should do this by having policies like:
- Life sentences mean life in England & Wales
- Triple maximum prison sentences in England & Wales
- Referendum on capital punishment for murder and rape of under 18 offenses in England & Wales (while encouraging Scotland & NI to follow but leave the choice to the devolved administrations
- Require the union jack to be flown on all schools & government buildings
- Require school pupils to take the oath of allegiance at the start of class
- Banning of certain face coverings in public places
- More social conservative policies on abortion
- BBC & Channel 4 privatisation
- 5% defence spending
And more from this:
https://www.conservativehome.com/the...bel-bills.html
It's the 21st Century mate -- the Tory Party needs to modernise and adopt more socially liberal policies beside fiscally conservative action... not regress to 1964.

I'm all in favour of tougher crime laws and a stronger national defence; and I'm not against privatising the BBC & Channel 4. Capital punishment is, however, too far IMO; and nationalism beyond civic is problematic and purely populist.

The GOP is a pretty regressive view for our Party to aspire to: we should be centre to centre-right. UKIP and other parties () will stand far on the right.

Traditionalists could defect tho... and Rees-Mogg wouldn't boost our appeal.

Ruth Davidson needs to be Tory leader so the party could be modern again.
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Fundamentals of Conservatism like scrapping unnecessary regulations and lowering taxes

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It is under a Conservative led government that we have witnessed a systematic watering down of our criminal justice system to pander to the human rights brigade (and to the point that criminals now effectively run the prisons they inhabit)

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will the Conservative Party oppose him in policy as well as in insult or will it simply try to appease the left as it's done over the last three elections?
And what do you count as "unnecessary" regulation? Far too many conservatives seem to include things like food standards, workers rights and environmental protection as "unnecessary" regulation that stops big business from making maximum profit by destroying the environment and trampling over the ability of workers to hold bad bosses to account. e.g. Opposing restrictions on neonicotinoid pesticides due to lobbying by the pesticide companies themselves, or the employment tribunal fees thing.

Doubling down on this ideological obsession of regulation being inherently evil is not going to do the conservatives any good.

And if the Conservatives are "appeasing the left" they're doing an absolutely terrible job at it.
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- BBC & Channel 4 privatisation
The BBC has a good worldwide reputation for quality and can afford to make good quality documentaries without worrying about if it will be profitable, without worrying about advertising revenue. And despite the moaning by both right and left wing, it IS unbiased for the most part, with the ability to complain on the occasions when it isn't.

The absolute last thing we should be doing is selling it off to corporate interests or Rupert Murdoch and turning it into a stinking pile of **** and clickbait.
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And what do you count as "unnecessary" regulation? Far too many conservatives seem to include things like food standards, workers rights and environmental protection as "unnecessary"
It's more the libertarian fringe, not necessarily conservatism although both are opposed to excessive regulation.


regulation that stops big business from making maximum profit by destroying the environment and trampling over the ability of workers to hold bad bosses to account. e.g. Opposing restrictions on neonicotinoid pesticides due to lobbying by the pesticide companies themselves, or the employment tribunal fees thing.
That's all well and good, and I'd agree with a lot of it. Bit there is some truth to the libertarian argument too that excessive regulations can drive small businesses down and can be a boon to the mega corporations who can afford them.

And if the Conservatives are "appeasing the left" they're doing an absolutely terrible job at it.
That's something we can all agree with. 😂
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They should separate into different parties, there should be a right wing big government party, there should be a libertarian free market party and a christian party (which could be UKIP)
The same should happen to the Labour Party but due to both the mechanics of the British political system and various people seemingly more loyal to the name of a party than anything it stands for it isn't going to happen, because if one of the major parties breaks up they essentially put the other in power indefinitely.
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It's the 21st Century mate -- the Tory Party needs to modernise and adopt more socially liberal policies beside fiscally conservative action... not regress to 1964.

I'm all in favour of tougher crime laws and a stronger national defence; and I'm not against privatising the BBC & Channel 4. Capital punishment is, however, too far IMO; and nationalism beyond civic is problematic and purely populist.

The GOP is a pretty regressive view for our Party to aspire to: we should be centre to centre-right. UKIP and other parties () will stand far on the right.

Traditionalists could defect tho... and Rees-Mogg wouldn't boost our appeal.

Ruth Davidson needs to be Tory leader so the party could be modern again.
Nah social conservative policies are popular with the public, not only will they keep the hardcore Tory vote but welfare loser will also vote conservative as they share social conservative views on things like capital punishment. Here's the manifesto the Conservatives should use that I made a while ago on here, I think they would win a big majority if they went with it:

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Immigration

- Moratorium on unskilled and low-skilled immigration for five years

- New international visa system with visa categories for highly skilled workers, tourists, students and family reunions

- Allow international post graduates from UK universities to stay in UK for six months to find work

- Migrants to UK to make tax and national insurance contributions for five years and gain UK citizenship before eligible for benefits and NHS treatment including migrants who have already settled here

- No visas for foreign criminals

- Migrants who commit crimes resulting in prison will have their visa revoked and be detained until they are deported

- EU Citizens who are in full time work, married to UK citizen, have siblings or parents that are UK citizens, own business that employs UK workers or have lived in country for 10 years to be given EU status visa which gives them permanent residency and eligible for UK citizenship test, EU citizens who don't fit the criteria to be deported within 12 months of exiting the EU



Culture and Media

- Abolish the license fee

- Shut down BBC Two and give the channel 2 slot to another network like UKTV, Sky, NBC, CBS, whatever to allow more competition in the UK television market

- Privatisation of Channel 4

- Privatisation of BBC and subjected to follow all OFCOM regulations

- Devolve some aspects of broadcasting, including Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland having their own evening and night time news programmes to broadcast local, national and international from their own perspective than having the news programmes transmitted from London leading on several purely English stories of health, justice or education.

- Change BBFC ratings to U, PG, 12A and 16A

- End the Watershed for TV and replace with a TV rating system like the US

- Amendment to smoking ban to give pubs and clubs choice of opening “smoking rooms”

- End the use of multi-lingual formatting on official documents, which will be published only in English, Welsh and Gaelic

- Allow political campaign advertising on TV & radio

- Bring back public information films like those used in the 1970s and 1980s like the Spirit of Dark and Lonely Water, Apaches, AIDS etc.

- Require all broadcasters to play two public information adverts by the UK govt and devolved govts during advert breaks of TV and radio programming as well as online video and music streaming

- In the run-up to general elections have three TV debates take place broadcasted live commercial free on the five main TV channels one involving all major political parties (Con, Lab, LD, UKIP, Green, SNP, PC, DUP, SF) one head to head with the Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor and a final head to head between the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition

- The Chancellor’s Budget announced and read out in Parliament from 7PM and require the five main terrestrial TV channels to broadcast it live so to important Prime Ministerial addresses

- Merge the Dept. of Digital, Media, Culture & Sport with other government departments



Political Reform

- Change the voting system of the House of Commons to AMS allowing FPTP and PR voting

- Reform the House of Lords to be an elected Senate with each of the 12 UK regions electing 10 Lords each. The House of Lords will keep current powers but can VETO bills passed by the House of Commons by a majority vote

- Reform UK Supreme Court by having 5 Judges, 1 appointed by the Queen on advice of the Prime Minister and 4 appointed by the Queen on advice of each First Minister of the 4 nations, judges should not be members of the House of Lords like currently

- Reduce voting age to 16

- Have all 46 major UK metropolitan areas have their own directly elected mayor (or Provost in Scotland) by 2025 with full control over their own police, fire & rescue, ambulance services, transport, tourism, housing, infrastructure, sports, economic development and power to increase the minimum wage which is needed in London. Done to make our cities bigger economic powerhouses like the major cities of US, Australia, Germany and China

- Make 1st May a public holiday known as Unionist day celebrating unionism and Britishness and public holidays for the saint’s days for each respective nation (St George Day bank holiday for England etc.) as well as Robert Burns day for Scotland and public holiday for the Queen’s Official Birthday

- Have Rule Britannia as the UK national anthem

- Make the Deputy Prime Minister a permanent role in Govt who is also First Secretary of State

Rename Leader of the House of Commons to Secretary of State of the Constitution

- Rename all Government departments to Government Ministries with exception of the Foreign Office and Home Office like: Downing Street (Prime Minister & Deputy Prime Minister & Cabinet Office), The Treasury, The Foreign Office, The Home Office, Ministry of Defence, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Business, Ministry of Trade, Ministry of Welfare, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Transport, Ministry of the Environment, Ministry of Veterans’ Affairs, Ministry of the Nations, Regions and Communities, Ministry of the Constitution



Federalism and Devolution

- Reform the UK political system to become a federal system of government by 2030

- Create an elected two house English Parliament (the lower house: a 501 member House of Representatives elected under STV (4/5 member constituencies with Isle of Wright being a 2 member constituency) and the upper house: a 90 member Senate with the 9 English regions electing 10 Senators each) with powers that of the Scottish Parliament & Northern Ireland Assembly

- Devolve more powers to the National Assembly of Wales to that of the Scottish Parliament and Northern Ireland Assembly including it’s own legal and justice system like Scotland and Northern Ireland

- Create Supreme Courts for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to be the highest court of the respective nations

- Permit the English and Scottish Parliaments and Welsh and Northern Irish Assemblies to have their own constitutions supported via referendums in their respective nations

- Have Jerusalem as the official national anthem of England

- Allow local councils to set their own levels of council tax



Law and Order

- Repeal of Human Rights Act and introduction of new “British bill of rights”.

- Introduce capital punishment in England and Wales for murder offenses, terrorist offenses which result in death and rape offenses, notably of people under age of 16

- Have life sentences be full life sentences, eligible for murder, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, blasphemy, terrorism, severe child abuse, rape, espionage, treason, high treason, drug dealing, drug trafficking, drug possession, human trafficking, severe cases of fraud, severe cases of financial crimes, aggravated criminal damage in English law, and aggravated cases of arson, kidnapping, burglary, or robbery which result in death or grievous bodily harm, piracy, and in certain cases genocide, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, certain war crimes or any three felonies in case of three strikes law

- Introduce US style long prison sentences by tripling the maximum prison sentences for all crimes

- Three strikes system for violent crimes in which a criminal is found guilty of committing a violent crime for the third time the criminal is given a life sentence without parole

- Classify gangs as terrorist groups and give full life sentences for members of gangs with possibility of parole if gang member tells the group he is leaving and reveals full details of the gang to police

- Have all police officers on patrol wearing duty belts that consist of a handgun, a Taser, an expandable baton, pepper spray, a set of handcuffs, ammunition magazines, gloves, torch and a two-way radio

- Rename the National Crime Agency to H.M Federal Police with extended policing powers across the UK like that of the FBI in the US and Australian Federal Police in Australia. Responsible for policing of airports, major train stations, and emphasis on cybercrime, arresting criminals who travel committed overseas by UK Citizens, crimes of UK federal law such as UK tax evasion, breach of UK regulations on industries like dentistry, benefit fraud, data protection etc. with other UK national policing forces like Revenue and Customs and Home Office Immigration police forces merged with the H.M Federal Police

- Crackdown on student rape cases at university campuses and abroad (rape/sex offenses committed among young people on vacation with criminals facing full force of law)

- Zero-tolerance approach to unacceptable ‘cultural’ practices such as female genital mutilation (FGM)

- Lifetime bans for owning animals for individuals who have been convicted of animal cruelty

- Relax laws on firearm ownership by allowing the sale of handguns, assault rifles and shotguns to consumers who have a license to own firearms and successfully pass a background check, sales also subjected to a firearms duty included in the price as well as VAT and gun must be registered to a non-ministerial government Firearms Licensing Agency (snipers, light machine guns and submachine guns still banned in the meantime)

- Reduce drinking, smoking and driving age to 16

- Ban age verification policies in retail outlets, bars and clubs which require age to be verified if it appears a customer is under 18/21/25. It should be the responsibility of parents to parent children on not buying items like this not the government or retail industry they nor employees shouldn’t be fined or fired due to lazy parenting

- Allow bars and clubs to have their own opening and closing times with no

- Ban wearing of the niqab and the burqa in public places

- Reverse the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by allowing the four breeds to be allowed in the UK, just require them to wear muzzles in public places like parks

- Reform of prison system which prevent prisoners from interacting with each other for security purposes, prisoners are better not interacting with other prisoners as they will just attack each other



Foreign Affairs and Defence

- Negotiate trade agreements with the EU, US, China, Japan and many other countries

- Aim to negotiate a free trade bloc with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and other countries of the Commonwealth Realm

- Commit to spend 5% GDP on defence

- Withdrawal from ECHR

- Cut foreign aid to Barack Obama levels and make DFID a sub-department of the Foreign Office

- Introduce a Ministry for Veterans' Affairs

- Open an internment camp (UK version of Guantanamo Bay) in an island in the Scottish Highlands for extraordinarily dangerous people and enemies of the state such as terrorist suspects, paedophile suspects with torture in place

- Recommission the Royal Yacht Britannia as it is a great symbol of global Britain, have it primary used to sign new trade deals and privately funded via donations at no tax payers expense



Economy

- Devolve income tax rates and bands to the 4 devolved Parliaments with each nation getting 20% of each nation’s income tax getting directly paid to the devolved administrations e.g. 20% of income tax from Wales goes directly to Welsh Government etc.

- Devolve corporation tax rates to the 4 devolved Parliaments with 20% of tax getting directly paid back to the devolved administrations

- Fully devolve exercise duties, stamp duty and motoring taxation to devolved administrations

- Abolish inheritance tax

- Maintain VAT at 20%

- Allow UK businesses to employ UK citizens first

- Cut business rates for smaller businesses

- Make it illegal for individuals to beg for money out in public spaces and high streets

- Rename Bank of England to the UK Central Bank

- Replace English, Scottish, Northern Irish and UK territorial banknotes with a single UK currency banknote like we have with coins



Welfare

- Support bedroom tax

- Scrap tax credits

- Cut benefits excluding the elderly, disabled and veterans

- Give guide dogs for all UK citizens who are blind

- One child policy for families/individuals on universal credit and whose income is less than £20,000 per annum from 2020

- Introduce Veterans First policy for former and injured police, fire, medic and army, navy, air force individuals to have served our country well



The Monarchy

- Reform parts of the Monarchy in a way to appease both Monarchists and Republicans with:

- Introduction of the Royal finances reform charter which has UK Parliament to set an annual fixed budget for the monarchy - including an annual salary for the Queen - to be managed and reported on by a government minister, not Buckingham Palace.

- All security costs of the institution of the Monarchy to be made transparent and accountable. All costs of royal visits around the country to be incorporated into the monarchy's budget, not met by local authorities as well as all members of the royal household, to be required to follow the same tax laws and rules as all other public bodies and private individuals

- Transfer the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall into public ownership, with all revenue going to the Treasury

- Prevent the Monarchy from being members of the Privy Council, meeting the Prime Minister weekly and access to UK government documents like Prince of Wales has apparently gotten in the past, they should be completely independent from politics bar Queen Elizabeth II singing bills, and appointing the Prime Minister

- Require all school classrooms to have a Union Jack and portrait of Queen Elizabeth II

- Require all school pupils at the start of class to make an oath of allegiance while looking at the union jack and portrait of Queen Elizabeth II that goes "I, swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."





Health

- Privatise healthcare (hospitals, dentists, GPs) while keeping the NHS as a government funded health insurance scheme for citizens which subsidises most healthcare costs for citizens funded by general taxation and national insurance contributions

- Encourage strong competition in free market healthcare

- Set up fully independent Health Boards for England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to regulate health industry including the NHS insurance scheme

- No NHS funding for abortions unless a victim of rape, the baby is life threatening to the mother or foetal abnormalities. Illegal after 24 weeks unless life threatening or foetal abnormalities occur



Education

- Rename current university tuition fee paying system to a graduate tax system as that is what it effectively is

- Have EU students pay same fees that of international students

- Tuition free university in Scotland for all UK students

- Require all schools to fly the Union Jack and the flag of the patron saint of whatever respective UK nation they are in (England, Scotland, Wales, NI)

- In Scottish education system cut all national 1-4 and advanced higher courses and qualifications in secondary schools as these qualifications are pointless and costly, make it mandatory for all secondary school pupils to undertake 8 national 5s in S4 and 5 Highers in S5 regardless of ability, allow S6 pupils to undertake 2 higher courses for subjects they took in S4 but at higher level, one crash higher and a vocational placement such as work experience in a primary school.

- Scrap requirement for pupils to undertake modern languages as the exams are too excessive for pupils who have no interest in the subject

- Scrap NABs in Scottish schools which are required for Scottish pupils to pass to take exams, every pupil should have the right to undertake the final exam if they wish

- Abolish faith schools in Great Britain



Transport

- Continue with HS2 and extend project to Newcastle and the Scottish central belt

- Privatise Network Rail with the aim of having more strong competition in the train and bus market (think 3/4 trains per hour from London to Edinburgh run by 3/4 different companies than 1 this would lead to a decrease in fares and increase in innovation.



Energy

- Support development of shale gas in land where appropriate



(Original post by RF_PineMarten)
The BBC has a good worldwide reputation for quality and can afford to make good quality documentaries without worrying about if it will be profitable, without worrying about advertising revenue. And despite the moaning by both right and left wing, it IS unbiased for the most part, with the ability to complain on the occasions when it isn't.

The absolute last thing we should be doing is selling it off to corporate interests or Rupert Murdoch and turning it into a stinking pile of **** and clickbait.
**** the rest of the world, I refuse to pay a slavery license fee that goes towards Gary "I'm stuck in 1966" Lineker and Chris "I'm stuck in 1996" Evans' annual million pound salaries! Only hardcore socialists would support having a silly national broadcaster which govt. forces individuals to pay money towards. I never watch BBC TV thus should not be required to pay a license fee towards it. Plus having a privately owned BBC & Channel 4 and a new TV network in the channel 2 slot would lead to good competition in the TV free market, with networks vying for your viewership like they do in the US with the big four private TV networks. There's also TV impartial laws which require TV networks to not act like the Mail or the Mirror so bias won't be much of a problem.
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Nah social conservative policies are popular with the public, not only will they keep the hardcore Tory vote but welfare loser will also vote conservative as they share social conservative views on things like capital punishment. Here's the manifesto the Conservatives should use that I made a while ago on here, I think they would win a big majority if they went with it:

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Immigration

- Moratorium on unskilled and low-skilled immigration for five years

- New international visa system with visa categories for highly skilled workers, tourists, students and family reunions

- Allow international post graduates from UK universities to stay in UK for six months to find work

- Migrants to UK to make tax and national insurance contributions for five years and gain UK citizenship before eligible for benefits and NHS treatment including migrants who have already settled here

- No visas for foreign criminals

- Migrants who commit crimes resulting in prison will have their visa revoked and be detained until they are deported

- EU Citizens who are in full time work, married to UK citizen, have siblings or parents that are UK citizens, own business that employs UK workers or have lived in country for 10 years to be given EU status visa which gives them permanent residency and eligible for UK citizenship test, EU citizens who don't fit the criteria to be deported within 12 months of exiting the EU



Culture and Media

- Abolish the license fee

- Shut down BBC Two and give the channel 2 slot to another network like UKTV, Sky, NBC, CBS, whatever to allow more competition in the UK television market

- Privatisation of Channel 4

- Privatisation of BBC and subjected to follow all OFCOM regulations

- Devolve some aspects of broadcasting, including Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland having their own evening and night time news programmes to broadcast local, national and international from their own perspective than having the news programmes transmitted from London leading on several purely English stories of health, justice or education.

- Change BBFC ratings to U, PG, 12A and 16A

- End the Watershed for TV and replace with a TV rating system like the US

- Amendment to smoking ban to give pubs and clubs choice of opening “smoking rooms”

- End the use of multi-lingual formatting on official documents, which will be published only in English, Welsh and Gaelic

- Allow political campaign advertising on TV & radio

- Bring back public information films like those used in the 1970s and 1980s like the Spirit of Dark and Lonely Water, Apaches, AIDS etc.

- Require all broadcasters to play two public information adverts by the UK govt and devolved govts during advert breaks of TV and radio programming as well as online video and music streaming

- In the run-up to general elections have three TV debates take place broadcasted live commercial free on the five main TV channels one involving all major political parties (Con, Lab, LD, UKIP, Green, SNP, PC, DUP, SF) one head to head with the Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor and a final head to head between the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition

- The Chancellor’s Budget announced and read out in Parliament from 7PM and require the five main terrestrial TV channels to broadcast it live so to important Prime Ministerial addresses

- Merge the Dept. of Digital, Media, Culture & Sport with other government departments



Political Reform

- Change the voting system of the House of Commons to AMS allowing FPTP and PR voting

- Reform the House of Lords to be an elected Senate with each of the 12 UK regions electing 10 Lords each. The House of Lords will keep current powers but can VETO bills passed by the House of Commons by a majority vote

- Reform UK Supreme Court by having 5 Judges, 1 appointed by the Queen on advice of the Prime Minister and 4 appointed by the Queen on advice of each First Minister of the 4 nations, judges should not be members of the House of Lords like currently

- Reduce voting age to 16

- Have all 46 major UK metropolitan areas have their own directly elected mayor (or Provost in Scotland) by 2025 with full control over their own police, fire & rescue, ambulance services, transport, tourism, housing, infrastructure, sports, economic development and power to increase the minimum wage which is needed in London. Done to make our cities bigger economic powerhouses like the major cities of US, Australia, Germany and China

- Make 1st May a public holiday known as Unionist day celebrating unionism and Britishness and public holidays for the saint’s days for each respective nation (St George Day bank holiday for England etc.) as well as Robert Burns day for Scotland and public holiday for the Queen’s Official Birthday

- Have Rule Britannia as the UK national anthem

- Make the Deputy Prime Minister a permanent role in Govt who is also First Secretary of State

Rename Leader of the House of Commons to Secretary of State of the Constitution

- Rename all Government departments to Government Ministries with exception of the Foreign Office and Home Office like: Downing Street (Prime Minister & Deputy Prime Minister & Cabinet Office), The Treasury, The Foreign Office, The Home Office, Ministry of Defence, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Business, Ministry of Trade, Ministry of Welfare, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, Ministry of Transport, Ministry of the Environment, Ministry of Veterans’ Affairs, Ministry of the Nations, Regions and Communities, Ministry of the Constitution



Federalism and Devolution

- Reform the UK political system to become a federal system of government by 2030

- Create an elected two house English Parliament (the lower house: a 501 member House of Representatives elected under STV (4/5 member constituencies with Isle of Wright being a 2 member constituency) and the upper house: a 90 member Senate with the 9 English regions electing 10 Senators each) with powers that of the Scottish Parliament & Northern Ireland Assembly

- Devolve more powers to the National Assembly of Wales to that of the Scottish Parliament and Northern Ireland Assembly including it’s own legal and justice system like Scotland and Northern Ireland

- Create Supreme Courts for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to be the highest court of the respective nations

- Permit the English and Scottish Parliaments and Welsh and Northern Irish Assemblies to have their own constitutions supported via referendums in their respective nations

- Have Jerusalem as the official national anthem of England

- Allow local councils to set their own levels of council tax



Law and Order

- Repeal of Human Rights Act and introduction of new “British bill of rights”.

- Introduce capital punishment in England and Wales for murder offenses, terrorist offenses which result in death and rape offenses, notably of people under age of 16

- Have life sentences be full life sentences, eligible for murder, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, blasphemy, terrorism, severe child abuse, rape, espionage, treason, high treason, drug dealing, drug trafficking, drug possession, human trafficking, severe cases of fraud, severe cases of financial crimes, aggravated criminal damage in English law, and aggravated cases of arson, kidnapping, burglary, or robbery which result in death or grievous bodily harm, piracy, and in certain cases genocide, ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity, certain war crimes or any three felonies in case of three strikes law

- Introduce US style long prison sentences by tripling the maximum prison sentences for all crimes

- Three strikes system for violent crimes in which a criminal is found guilty of committing a violent crime for the third time the criminal is given a life sentence without parole

- Classify gangs as terrorist groups and give full life sentences for members of gangs with possibility of parole if gang member tells the group he is leaving and reveals full details of the gang to police

- Have all police officers on patrol wearing duty belts that consist of a handgun, a Taser, an expandable baton, pepper spray, a set of handcuffs, ammunition magazines, gloves, torch and a two-way radio

- Rename the National Crime Agency to H.M Federal Police with extended policing powers across the UK like that of the FBI in the US and Australian Federal Police in Australia. Responsible for policing of airports, major train stations, and emphasis on cybercrime, arresting criminals who travel committed overseas by UK Citizens, crimes of UK federal law such as UK tax evasion, breach of UK regulations on industries like dentistry, benefit fraud, data protection etc. with other UK national policing forces like Revenue and Customs and Home Office Immigration police forces merged with the H.M Federal Police

- Crackdown on student rape cases at university campuses and abroad (rape/sex offenses committed among young people on vacation with criminals facing full force of law)

- Zero-tolerance approach to unacceptable ‘cultural’ practices such as female genital mutilation (FGM)

- Lifetime bans for owning animals for individuals who have been convicted of animal cruelty

- Relax laws on firearm ownership by allowing the sale of handguns, assault rifles and shotguns to consumers who have a license to own firearms and successfully pass a background check, sales also subjected to a firearms duty included in the price as well as VAT and gun must be registered to a non-ministerial government Firearms Licensing Agency (snipers, light machine guns and submachine guns still banned in the meantime)

- Reduce drinking, smoking and driving age to 16

- Ban age verification policies in retail outlets, bars and clubs which require age to be verified if it appears a customer is under 18/21/25. It should be the responsibility of parents to parent children on not buying items like this not the government or retail industry they nor employees shouldn’t be fined or fired due to lazy parenting

- Allow bars and clubs to have their own opening and closing times with no

- Ban wearing of the niqab and the burqa in public places

- Reverse the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 by allowing the four breeds to be allowed in the UK, just require them to wear muzzles in public places like parks

- Reform of prison system which prevent prisoners from interacting with each other for security purposes, prisoners are better not interacting with other prisoners as they will just attack each other



Foreign Affairs and Defence

- Negotiate trade agreements with the EU, US, China, Japan and many other countries

- Aim to negotiate a free trade bloc with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and other countries of the Commonwealth Realm

- Commit to spend 5% GDP on defence

- Withdrawal from ECHR

- Cut foreign aid to Barack Obama levels and make DFID a sub-department of the Foreign Office

- Introduce a Ministry for Veterans' Affairs

- Open an internment camp (UK version of Guantanamo Bay) in an island in the Scottish Highlands for extraordinarily dangerous people and enemies of the state such as terrorist suspects, paedophile suspects with torture in place

- Recommission the Royal Yacht Britannia as it is a great symbol of global Britain, have it primary used to sign new trade deals and privately funded via donations at no tax payers expense



Economy

- Devolve income tax rates and bands to the 4 devolved Parliaments with each nation getting 20% of each nation’s income tax getting directly paid to the devolved administrations e.g. 20% of income tax from Wales goes directly to Welsh Government etc.

- Devolve corporation tax rates to the 4 devolved Parliaments with 20% of tax getting directly paid back to the devolved administrations

- Fully devolve exercise duties, stamp duty and motoring taxation to devolved administrations

- Abolish inheritance tax

- Maintain VAT at 20%

- Allow UK businesses to employ UK citizens first

- Cut business rates for smaller businesses

- Make it illegal for individuals to beg for money out in public spaces and high streets

- Rename Bank of England to the UK Central Bank

- Replace English, Scottish, Northern Irish and UK territorial banknotes with a single UK currency banknote like we have with coins



Welfare

- Support bedroom tax

- Scrap tax credits

- Cut benefits excluding the elderly, disabled and veterans

- Give guide dogs for all UK citizens who are blind

- One child policy for families/individuals on universal credit and whose income is less than £20,000 per annum from 2020

- Introduce Veterans First policy for former and injured police, fire, medic and army, navy, air force individuals to have served our country well



The Monarchy

- Reform parts of the Monarchy in a way to appease both Monarchists and Republicans with:

- Introduction of the Royal finances reform charter which has UK Parliament to set an annual fixed budget for the monarchy - including an annual salary for the Queen - to be managed and reported on by a government minister, not Buckingham Palace.

- All security costs of the institution of the Monarchy to be made transparent and accountable. All costs of royal visits around the country to be incorporated into the monarchy's budget, not met by local authorities as well as all members of the royal household, to be required to follow the same tax laws and rules as all other public bodies and private individuals

- Transfer the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall into public ownership, with all revenue going to the Treasury

- Prevent the Monarchy from being members of the Privy Council, meeting the Prime Minister weekly and access to UK government documents like Prince of Wales has apparently gotten in the past, they should be completely independent from politics bar Queen Elizabeth II singing bills, and appointing the Prime Minister

- Require all school classrooms to have a Union Jack and portrait of Queen Elizabeth II

- Require all school pupils at the start of class to make an oath of allegiance while looking at the union jack and portrait of Queen Elizabeth II that goes "I, swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God."





Health

- Privatise healthcare (hospitals, dentists, GPs) while keeping the NHS as a government funded health insurance scheme for citizens which subsidises most healthcare costs for citizens funded by general taxation and national insurance contributions

- Encourage strong competition in free market healthcare

- Set up fully independent Health Boards for England Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to regulate health industry including the NHS insurance scheme

- No NHS funding for abortions unless a victim of rape, the baby is life threatening to the mother or foetal abnormalities. Illegal after 24 weeks unless life threatening or foetal abnormalities occur



Education

- Rename current university tuition fee paying system to a graduate tax system as that is what it effectively is

- Have EU students pay same fees that of international students

- Tuition free university in Scotland for all UK students

- Require all schools to fly the Union Jack and the flag of the patron saint of whatever respective UK nation they are in (England, Scotland, Wales, NI)

- In Scottish education system cut all national 1-4 and advanced higher courses and qualifications in secondary schools as these qualifications are pointless and costly, make it mandatory for all secondary school pupils to undertake 8 national 5s in S4 and 5 Highers in S5 regardless of ability, allow S6 pupils to undertake 2 higher courses for subjects they took in S4 but at higher level, one crash higher and a vocational placement such as work experience in a primary school.

- Scrap requirement for pupils to undertake modern languages as the exams are too excessive for pupils who have no interest in the subject

- Scrap NABs in Scottish schools which are required for Scottish pupils to pass to take exams, every pupil should have the right to undertake the final exam if they wish

- Abolish faith schools in Great Britain



Transport

- Continue with HS2 and extend project to Newcastle and the Scottish central belt

- Privatise Network Rail with the aim of having more strong competition in the train and bus market (think 3/4 trains per hour from London to Edinburgh run by 3/4 different companies than 1 this would lead to a decrease in fares and increase in innovation.



Energy

- Support development of shale gas in land where appropriate














**** the rest of the world, I refuse to pay a slavery license fee that goes towards Gary "I'm stuck in 1966" Lineker and Chris "I'm stuck in 1996" Evans' annual million pound salaries! Only hardcore socialists would support having a silly national broadcaster which govt. forces individuals to pay money towards. I never watch BBC TV thus should not be required to pay a license fee towards it. Plus having a privately owned BBC & Channel 4 and a new TV network in the channel 2 slot would lead to good competition in the TV free market, with networks vying for your viewership like they do in the US with the big four private TV networks. There's also TV impartial laws which require TV networks to not act like the Mail or the Mirror so bias won't be much of a problem.
Why should begging in public spaces and high streets be illegal? If someone's homeless without any support, let alone turning to crime, what are their options if they can't find any work? Any compassion?

I support your foreign affairs and defence policies the most bar cutting the foreign aid budget. I'm 50/50 on the other topic policies though.

I'm for your welfare policies bar scrapping tax credits and cutting benefits. I get they're not widely economy boosting and need to be cut to an extent. However, in-work poverty is the Party's biggest ideological crisis: as poverty in general in the UK should be the Party's biggest social concern welfare-wise. IMO reforms to tax credits and benefits in your way would only solidify a 'Nasty Party' image.

I'd support a Royal finances reform charter. I agree the Monarchy should follow universal tax rules and laws also and they should be politics-independent IMO. I'm not a republican, but wouldn't advocate oaths and portraits in schools. Your policies would gain support from hardcore Tories and public demographics tho.

I'm against privatising health care. Private ownership and control with inelastic demand (i.e. for health care services) is a toxic combo for consumers. There'd be strong resistance from Greens, Labour, Lib Dems; and the Tory's Left-Wing. I'd support the other policies though.

I'd support your education and transport policies. Modern languages should be required at secondary IMO from a Globalist perspective as English will only take us so far. Rail's furthermore a natural monopoly so competition elsewhere wouldn't offset higher fares by privatisation. Franchises further have seven year contracts so the sustained competition needed to innovate etc. is unlikely; it'd raise need for regulation.
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- BBC & Channel 4 privatisation
(a) Privatising the BBC defeats its whole purpose. You might as well just call it ITV. Try explaining this to a thick Tory though....

(b) Channel 4 is a private company. Awkward.
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Plus having a privately owned BBC & Channel 4 and a new TV network in the channel 2 slot would lead to good competition in the TV free market, with networks vying for your viewership like they do in the US with the big four private TV networks.
You clearly have no idea about the media industry in this country. But then, politicians very rarely have a clue what they're talking about in any field, they just go ahead and ruin it anyway. The competition between the channels (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky etc) is already ruthless and it's ruthless because the BBC is so high quality everyone else has to up their game. Doesn't mean they always get it right, but competitiion could not be tighter. This is the only area of all your policies I have in depth knowledge of, but it does make me question how much else you (and the Tories) have got wrong.

Oh and TV in the US is largely awful. We only see their best exports. And they have ten times our budgets (yet the UK still punches above its weight in this area).
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You clearly have no idea about the media industry in this country. But then, politicians very rarely have a clue what they're talking about in any field, they just go ahead and ruin it anyway. The competition between the channels (BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky etc) is already ruthless and it's ruthless because the BBC is so high quality everyone else has to up their game. Doesn't mean they always get it right, but competitiion could not be tighter. This is the only area of all your policies I have in depth knowledge of, but it does make me question how much else you (and the Tories) have got wrong.

Oh and TV in the US is largely awful. We only see their best exports. And they have ten times our budgets (yet the UK still punches above its weight in this area).
I take it you're one of those Jeremy Corbyn supporters?

Only rabid socialist Corbynistas would support a socialist institution stealing £147 from every household that owns a TV. There is very little competition on the TV market as the two of the three main channels are publicly owned thus leaving ITV to take all the money from advertisers. If the BBC started making their money from advertisers ITV would up their game as all the advertisers would flock to the BBC which would scare ITV big time. Even more competition if the channel 2 slot was given to another privately owned TV network.

But if it did get ****, well who the **** would care? Everyone saves £147 from their pockets and I only use Netflix for TV viewing anyway.
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progress > conserve.
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